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Tom4784 22-02-2016 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530109)
He is something that's very rare in British music and that's song writers.

Most of the trash who make the charts these days wouldn't even know how to write a letter let alone a song

RARE?! Are you serious?

You can't swing Ellie Goulding in a Record Company lobby without hitting a multitude of Singer Songwriters. EVERY year there's some boring man with a guitar nominated that's just the same as the boring man with a guitar that was nominated the year before.

James Bay is generic and uninteresting, he is the definition of a cookie cutter artist.

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8530122)
Adam, if you knew a little about the Brits, you'd know that Lily wouldn't have been eligible in the first place since she hasn't had a top 40 album in the past year (and I don't see why she would have, considering she hasn't released one)



...she doesn't play the guitar in her songs

On the rare occasions that I've seen her live performances she has an Acoustic Guitar like James Bay often does.

Denver 22-02-2016 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8530130)
RARE?! Are you serious?

You can't swing Ellie Goulding in a Record Company lobby without hitting a multitude of Singer Songwriters. EVERY year there's some boring man with a guitar nominated that's just the same as the boring man with a guitar that was nominated the year before.

James Bay is generic and uninteresting, he is the definition of a cookie cutter artist.

The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

MB. 22-02-2016 08:24 PM

Of course, this is all heavily ironic considering boybands such as HomeTown would struggle writing their own names, never mind a song

MB. 22-02-2016 08:24 PM

(or, y'know, One Direction or anybody else nominated of that ilk)

Samm 22-02-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530132)
On the rare occasions that I've seen her live performances she has an Acoustic Guitar like James Bay often does.

Which performances? I've never seen her play a guitar, do you mean a male/female playing a guitar in the background? I wouldn't call that the same

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530118)
But Lily Allen is just a White Girl With A Guitar?

I agree with you on James Bay being dull, but tbf so is Lily Allen imo who often also talk sings as I like to call it.

And out of interest are you against any white male playing the Guitar? I'm only interested because I know that some people have a weird issue with it even if the act is decent.

well I'm pretty sure she doesn't play the guitar in any of her songs but yeah that's besides the point. it's not really about "who's more boring?", it's about the lack of knowledge for diverse artists The Brits carries, and James Bay completely ignored the question and went for a cheap snipe because he's nominated himself

Tom4784 22-02-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530135)
The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

Where's the proof of your claim? Go on. Show me.

Samm 22-02-2016 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530135)
The amount of artists who don't write their own songs out weighs those who do by a large amount

Lily writes her own music, if that's the point you're trying to get at

MB. 22-02-2016 08:27 PM

Even if Lily did play the guitar (which... she doesn't), there literally aren't any other women for her to compete with in that market? Yet if you look at the men, you've got James Bay, Ed Sheeran, Jack Garratt, Passenger, Hozier, Jamie Lawson... and that's before you've even left the UK and Ireland/got onto bands

Black Dagger 22-02-2016 08:28 PM

Is Passenger still a thing?

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by _LucasMichael_ (Post 8530155)
Is Passenger still a thing?

nope, thank christ

MB. 22-02-2016 08:29 PM

(not forgetting George Ezra, Jake Bugg, Damien Rice, Tom Odell, Ben Howard...)

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Sam~ (Post 8530140)
Which performances? I've never seen her play a guitar, do you mean a male/female playing a guitar in the background? I wouldn't call that the same

True that a lot of her performances that I've seen are getting helped from background Music with Guitar playing.

Out of interest as I've had nobody answer me yet on it, are some of you just against Guitar players? Because I really like a J-Rock Group called Ling Tosite Sigure, and I'm thinking that if by some weird reality that they did win Best International Act at The Grammys would people just call the lead singer an AGWG? Because I've even seen people like Hozier and George Ezra (who I happen to class as decent) get called boring and WGWG in a negative way just because they dare to play the Guitar.

Tom4784 22-02-2016 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8530158)
nope, thank christ

Just goes to show that these acts are as manufactored as your typical X Factor winner, they get dropped after one album to make room for the next generic man with a guitar.

RichardG 22-02-2016 08:31 PM

Is the point that people just don't like guitars or is it that people don't like the boring generic "indie" songs that they play with it

Because I thought it was the latter

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530162)
True that a lot of her performances that I've seen are getting helped from background Music with Guitar playing.

Yeah that happens with most music artists, background music.. Or are they supposed to humm the song themselves whilst singing? :laugh:

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 8530167)
Is the point that people just don't like guitars or is it that people don't like the boring generic "indie" songs that they play with it

Because I thought it was the latter

Indie is never generic.:nono::joker:

MB. 22-02-2016 08:31 PM

"White girl with a guitar" =/= "white girl who sat near a guitar once"

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8530165)
Just goes to show that these acts are as manufactored as your typical X Factor winner, they get dropped after one album to make room for the next generic man with a guitar.

exactly, as I said before it's all generic, BBC Sound of The Year-type crap

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8530171)
"White girl with a guitar" =/= "white girl who sat near a guitar once"

There are White Girls With a Guitar out there.

They're normally in Rock Bands though like PVRIS.

Denver 22-02-2016 08:33 PM

Also shouldnt the likes of Little Mix be recognised more after proving time after time they are talented and have had hits all over the world? They are the ones who have missed out the most

Tom4784 22-02-2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 8530167)
Is the point that people just don't like guitars or is it that people don't like the boring generic "indie" songs that they play with it

Because I thought it was the latter

I like indie music but artists like James Bay aren't indie, they're pop artists masquerading as indie hipsters whose careers have a shorter shelf life than a carton of milk.

MB. 22-02-2016 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530175)
There are White Girls With a Guitar out there.

They're normally in Rock Bands though like PVRIS.

And Lily Allen isn't one of them

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8530178)
I like indie music but artists like James Bay aren't indie, they're pop artists masquerading as indie hipsters whose careers have a shorter shelf life than a carton of milk.

aka jake bugg

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530176)
Also shouldnt the likes of Little Mix be recognised more after proving time after time they are talented and have had hits all over the world? They are the ones who have missed out the most

If Little Mix won a Grammy for talent then I'm gonna have to.


RichardG 22-02-2016 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8530178)
I like indie music but artists like James Bay aren't indie, they're pop artists masquerading as indie hipsters whose careers have a shorter shelf life than a carton of milk.

Yeah that's what I meant with indie being in quotation marks haha

For a second I thought people just really hated guitars

MB. 22-02-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530176)
Also shouldnt the likes of Little Mix be recognised more after proving time after time they are talented and have had hits all over the world? They are the ones who have missed out the most

You mean the same Little Mix who are nominated for two awards at the Brits?

Jake. 22-02-2016 08:35 PM

(and yeah I love indie music but you know, decent indie music)

Denver 22-02-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530181)
If Little Mix won a Grammy for talent then I'm gonna have to.


But they are talented :shrug: they are great singers and performers

Shaun 22-02-2016 08:35 PM

http://www.virginmedia.com/images/CB...ry_431x300.jpg

IF CARLY RAE JEPSEN ISN'T EVEN NOMINATED FOR BEST INTERNATIONAL FEMALE THEN FOOK THE FOOKIN' BRITS

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Denver 22-02-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MB. (Post 8530183)
You mean the same Little Mix who are nominated for two awards at the Brits?

2 awards nobody cares about? They have been shunned from Best Group, Best Single and Best Album in which they should have been nominated

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8530184)
(and yeah I love indie music but you know, decent indie music)

I wish other people thought like you and Dezzy though Jake.

I swear there are some people out there who want anything remotely Rock, Indie, or Folk to be either James Bay'd (Popped up to the max) or completely destroyed altogether.:bawling:

Amy Jade 22-02-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530187)
2 awards nobody cares about? They have been shunned from Best Group, Best Single and Best Album in which they should have been nominated

Are they not up for Best Single? wtf Black Magic deserves to be there it was one of the best singles last year

Black Dagger 22-02-2016 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8530186)
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/CB...ry_431x300.jpg

IF CARLY RAE JEPSEN ISN'T EVEN NOMINATED FOR BEST INTERNATIONAL FEMALE THEN FOOK THE FOOKIN' BRITS

[/thread]

tbh

Denver 22-02-2016 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8530192)
Are they not up for Best Single? wtf Black Magic deserves to be there it was one of the best singles last year

I think it's like best video and something else they should defo be in best group

MB. 22-02-2016 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 8530192)
Are they not up for Best Single? wtf Black Magic deserves to be there it was one of the best singles last year

They're up for Best Single, yes

RichardG 22-02-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8530190)
I wish other people thought like you and Dezzy though Jake.

I swear there are some people out there who want anything remotely Rock, Indie, or Folk to be either James Bay'd (Popped up to the max) or completely destroyed altogether.:bawling:

Hardcore rockers Babymetal will live on past the hate don't worry :clap1:

Mystic Mock 22-02-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam. (Post 8530185)
But they are talented :shrug: they are great singers and performers

I actually like the song in a guilty pleasure sort of way, but imo the only one that can sing is the one playing the Guitar, the others are just being treated like pieces of meat.

Tom4784 22-02-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8530186)
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/CB...ry_431x300.jpg

IF CARLY RAE JEPSEN ISN'T EVEN NOMINATED FOR BEST INTERNATIONAL FEMALE THEN FOOK THE FOOKIN' BRITS

[/thread]

Pretty much.


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