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Cherie 16-06-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8725194)
I've paddled in the same water and I completely agree.

This is horrific. That poor family.

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8728082)
There are multiple signs along the shore that say 'do not enter water'



:worry:

Glenn. 16-06-2016 11:03 AM

Don't judge me :fist:

It las to get the sand off my feet.

Cherie 16-06-2016 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8728258)
Don't judge me :fist:

It las to get the sand off my feet.

I'd stick with the sand unless you want no feet :worry:

Glenn. 16-06-2016 11:05 AM

I will also add that when I watched the fireworks on the beach the loungers were very close to the waters edge. I can see things being changed dramatically in the coming days.

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8728259)
I'd stick with the sand unless you want no feet :worry:

:laugh:

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8724820)
:sad:

Investigators killed four alligators while searching for a boy who was attacked and dragged into a lake Tuesday night

None of the alligators killed showed signs of having attacked the child

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nati...#storylink=cpy

Knew this would happen.

Cherie 16-06-2016 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8728260)
I will also add that when I watched the fireworks on the beach the loungers were very close to the waters edge. I can see things being changed dramatically in the coming days.

There was a story about this in the mirror yesterday on iPad or I would find the link where a family watching the fireworks had to flee as a gator came onto the beach, another family informed security about it, it looks like it was an accident waiting to happen

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 8726575)
The little boy's body was recovered. As tragic as it, is he was intact.

</3

RIP x

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:12 AM

Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:15 AM

They've closed the beaches until the alligator is captured? He didn't eat the kid so how are they gonna know? Are they just gonna kill ALL the alligators?

Cherie 16-06-2016 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728279)
Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?


There are pics of the lagoon, it looks like a beach! It is as far from looking like croc infested as you could get though

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 8728287)
There are pics of the lagoon, it looks like a beach! It is as far from looking like croc infested as you could get though

Okay so it wasn't the families fault then - but still - alligators live there? I honestly am baffled as to why they're trapping and euthanizing alligators? It's their natural instinct.

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728279)
Idg why they're killing alligators tho? Like if you go in alligator invested waters then you might get eaten by an alligator, of course it wasn't the kids fault but the alligator doesn't know that it shouldn't eat people? It's an instinct. The family were at fault not the alligator?

It's not like alligators are a protected species there though, they're more of a pest, they regularly kill them just to try and cull their population so if they do that anyway, it's not such a big thing to do it to try and find the childs body

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:19 AM

The whole classification of a 'pest' is nonsense in itself. I don't think we have the right to decide what is a pest or not but that's a whole other issue.

I'm shocked they kill alligators all the time because they're a nuisance.

Cherie 16-06-2016 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728289)
Okay so it wasn't the families fault then - but still - alligators live there? I honestly am baffled as to why they're trapping and euthanizing alligators? It's their natural instinct.


I think they did it as they thought the child had been ingested, I understand it's tough on the animals who are minding their own business, I blame Disney really for calling it a Beach Resort...why they needed to put a fake beach near a croc lagoon is anyone's guess ..well it's not it's all about cash but you get my drift

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728294)
The whole classification of a 'pest' is nonsense in itself. I don't think we have the right to decide what is a pest or not but that's a whole other issue.

I'm shocked they kill alligators all the time because they're a nuisance.

Would you consider rats a pest and would you support people exterminating them if they got so out of control they were everywhere?

Crimson Dynamo 16-06-2016 11:22 AM

It seems this happened in the 80s but the child got away according to GMB this am

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8728303)
Would you consider rats a pest and would you support people exterminating them if they got so out of control they were everywhere?

Absolutely not they should be taken to the country and set free.

Crimson Dynamo 16-06-2016 11:25 AM

Meanwhile you can still go to Gatorland and feed the gators turkey dogs


http://www.gatorland.com/_upload/pag.../imgRookie.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 16-06-2016 11:25 AM

Meanwhile you can still go to Gatorland and feed the gators turkey dogs


http://www.wesh.com/news/experts-at-...ution/40074602

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728312)
Absolutely not they should be taken to the country and set free.

:laugh2:

That wouldn't be very practical

Cal. 16-06-2016 11:28 AM

Murder isn't practical?

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Who Is She? (Post 8728323)
Murder isn't practical?

Well, I'm not a vegetarian so this is a whole other argument

Vicky. 16-06-2016 11:31 AM

This is just awful. I cannot imagine what those poor parents must have felt watching an alligator make off with their kid. And the child too, must have been so scared :(

I understand those saying the parents should have known better though, but its really not the time...

When we went to florida we stayed in these massive villa things each with their own pool. They all had nets around to stop gators lounging around in peoples back yards...didn't work though. Day 3 of our holiday the house across from us got stuck with an alligator floating round in their pool :facepalm:

Niamh. 16-06-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8728332)
This is just awful. I cannot imagine what those poor parents must have felt watching an alligator make off with their kid. And the child too, must have been so scared :(

I understand those saying the parents should have known better though, but its really not the time...

When we went to florida we stayed in these massive villa things each with their own pool. They all had nets around to stop gators lounging around in peoples back yards...didn't work though. Day 3 of our holiday the house across from us got stuck with an alligator floating round in their pool :facepalm:

s**t :worry:

Vicky. 16-06-2016 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8728319)
Meanwhile you can still go to Gatorland and feed the gators turkey dogs


http://www.wesh.com/news/experts-at-...ution/40074602

Oh god, we did this. I didn't know it was basically a farm though and that the gators there were all killed. My brother got a photo sitting on the back of one...I feel awful for enjoying the day now but I was a kid at the time and knew no different :(

Cherie 16-06-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8728305)
It seems this happened in the 80s but the child got away according to GMB this am

:facepalm: huge lawsuit incoming

Glenn. 17-06-2016 08:54 AM

We earlier today posted a statement from Walt Disney World’s president George Kalogridis about the fatal alligator attack that happened earlier this week at the Grand Floridian Resort. Now Disney is reportedly introducing changes that appear to be in response to this recent tragedy.

The Hollywood Reporter is saying that the script for the popular Jungle Cruise attraction at Disney’s Magic Kingdom will be changing starting today. According to the news outlet, the script will no longer contain the one-liner the captain says warning parents to “watch your children, or the crocodiles will.” The Jungle Cruise script is usually filled with pun-heavy material like this but understandably the Walt Disney Company did not think it was appropriate at this time to keep it in use and has ordered cast members working the ride to refrain from saying that specific one-liner. The corny script at the Jungle Cruise has been a mainstay since 1962 and is definitely a strong characteristic of the ride. Disney has not given any word if the joke will make a return or not in the future.

Disney CEO Bob Iger said in a statement following the discovery of the boy’s body: “As a parent and a grandparent, my heart goes out to the Graves family during this time of devastating loss.”

Many fans online are now speculating if we will see other cuts in attractions and shows featuring crocodiles like the Tick-Tock Crocodile in Peter Pan’s Flight and Louis the Alligator from The Princess and the Frog that is supposed to take the stage for the first time tomorrow in the new Magic Kingdom castle stage show – Mickey’s Friendship Faire.

The Orlando Sentinel is reporting another change at Walt Disney World that seems to be in response to the attack with plans to put up new signs warning visitors of alligators around their beaches and lakes on property. The tragic incident involving the 2-year-old little boy, Lane Graves, happened on the shores of Seven Seas Lagoon at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort, so signs warning guests of alligators would definitely be appropriate. Previously, signs in the area warned guests to not swim in the water.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler was quoted in the Orlando Sentinel as saying: “We are conducting a swift and thorough review of all of our processes and protocols. This includes the number, placement and wording of our signage and warnings.”

This is not the first time alligators have been spotted on Disney property but it’s still not clear how many warning signs there will be or where they will be posted.

Glenn. 17-06-2016 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8728335)
Oh god, we did this. I didn't know it was basically a farm though and that the gators there were all killed. My brother got a photo sitting on the back of one...I feel awful for enjoying the day now but I was a kid at the time and knew no different :(

We went the first time we were in Orlando and were appalled and never returned.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 18-06-2016 04:14 AM

Too sad. RIP little angel.






But how come gorilla boy parents were dragged to filth for an accident and these parents weren't for going near water at night? :conf::nono:

Ninastar 18-06-2016 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8735083)
Too sad. RIP little angel.






But how come gorilla boy parents were dragged to filth for an accident and these parents weren't for going near water at night? :conf::nono:

I've seen the parents dragged to filth by some people, but I imagine that because their son is dead, that most people think that is punishment enough.

Cherie 18-06-2016 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 8735149)
I've seen the parents dragged to filth by some people, but I imagine that because their son is dead, that most people think that is punishment enough.

:clap2: the parents in this case were physically with the child apparently the mum was playing with the child in the water so it wasn't a case where they let their toddler out of their sight, they were lulled into a false sense of security by the picture postcard beach and were naive to the risks

Kizzy 18-06-2016 10:48 PM

What a stupid thing to do build a faux beach with the risks of the local area, poor baby :(

Braden 18-06-2016 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8737148)
What a stupid thing to do build a faux beach with the risks of the local area, poor baby :(

That's what I can't get my head around.

I agree with what Livia and Mokka have said about how stupid it is that the human race have constantly altered our planet for our own benefit (over trivial things like wanting more beaches?!) without taking into consideration the enviornmental factors and other species who also belong on Earth.

Vicky. 18-06-2016 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo (Post 8735083)
Too sad. RIP little angel.






But how come gorilla boy parents were dragged to filth for an accident and these parents weren't for going near water at night? :conf::nono:

Because allowing your child to climb into an enclosure with a dangerous animal is kinda different to letting them paddle on holiday.

You need to take your eyes off a young kid for a fair bit longer for them to manage to climb into a gorilla enclosure than you do for a split second croc attack :S

Glenn. 18-06-2016 11:41 PM

They're building a fence now that will span the length of the beach.

Glenn. 18-06-2016 11:41 PM

Also new signage has been installed

Kizzy 19-06-2016 02:31 AM

How about they just don't make any more alligator encouraging water features? or if they must but a building around it to protect paying customers.

I too feel for the beasts, 'hey, this place mimics my natural environment I'll just hang out here and do ma thang' ... They have it much easier than our wildlife though, foxes and badgers don't drown kids and yet we insist on hunting and culling :/

Glenn. 19-06-2016 02:32 PM

Because it's he first gator attack in 45yrs? As tragic as it is, it is an anomaly.

Kizzy 19-06-2016 03:48 PM

It's not the first, there was someone chased from that area also recently. It may have taken that long for it to become established as a habitat complete with flora and fauna, they may have been born there.


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