Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 8745838)

I can see both sides of this argument. I believe Georgina was shocked and was trying to absorb the information, and didn't know quite how to respond- I think she, therefore, felt awkward and this is why she giggled, which can be a common response in such situations.

However, I don't think Jackson was trying to be devious about his son or trying to hide anything. Who's to say when the right time is to reveal private information? This is very early days at this stage- they really have spent so little time with each other so far, as we are only a few weeks in, and Jackson has spent the majority of time in the other house, so they are still getting to know each other. In general, people do not tell people everything about themselves the moment they begin to be interested in someone- we gradually reveal more information about ourselves as we feel more secure about someone. This is in order to protect ourselves and the things that are most precious to us- in this case his son.

I think people are being very harsh on Jackson. His son clearly means the world to him, and the situation is obviously very painful to him- we don't know what has happened in his relationship with his son's mother, so I don't feel it is right to judge him without this information as it is just assumption.

I feel he was reluctant to share his photos, as maybe he didn't want to have to discuss his son on a tv show. I think he was afraid that showing the photo would bring out very painful and difficult emotions for him- which it clearly did- and he just didn't want this to happen as it is too raw for him, and because he is in the BB house. Although, he is on a reality to show, he is not obliged to share everything about himself, and be forced to discuss things he wants to protect, or are just too painful for him to discuss. However, having pressured him into sharing this with her, I would have expected Georgina to have shown a little more compassion and support when Jackson was obviously upset. Her failure to do so suggests that, emotionally, she just isn't on the same page as him, and is unlikely to be able to provide what he needs.

In my opinion this relationship is never going to work, and despite their attraction to each other, deep down they both know that- another reason why he might have been reluctant to open up about the most private and precious parts of his life. He has put Georgina on a pedestal but, again in my opinion, he is falling for the person he imagines her to be, rather than the person she really is- I feel this could be because he is at a stage in his life when he is ready to find that special someone, and is desperately trying to convince himself that Georgina is that someone. I think he is going to get hurt, as she cannot provide what he truly needs.

Georgina is already recognising all the negatives about the relationship, and has identified all the reasons it won't work. She has also been mentioning all the things she wants to change about Jackson- if you want to change someone so much, they are not the person for you. To show such embarrassment when thinking about him spending time with the important people in your life and such a reluctance about the idea of him being part of her social circle, is a massive sign that he isn't for her. Although she likes the person she is getting to know, I don't believe she would really entertain the idea of a proper relationship with him- I think she needs to be honest with herself and with Jackson about this.

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8746183)

It was pretty obvious what a miserable brat it was from the start.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746206)

who? Jackson or Georgina :joker:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8746209)

Georgina. That said though Jackson really isnt doing himself any favours at the moment.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8746214)

I just don't like the showmances. This one won't do either of them any favours.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746223)

give it some time, and let's see tonight okay :)

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8746224)

It's putting me off Jackson as well.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746226)

with his early wedding plans, why doesn't he ask her about her feelings for him, we only hear him, saying 100 times how beautiful she is, and that she is a goddess to him :laugh:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8746230)

He's going too fast :facepalm:

Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 8745681)

Well yeah they can, it all depends on what sort of relationship you have with your ex or if you are on speaking terms or not. But I wouldn't say there are problems (there might be, who knows) as every 2 weeks seems to be the norm for a child to see their Dad or in some instances their mum

Originally Posted by Garfie (Post 8745838)

I can see both sides of this argument. I believe Georgina was shocked and was trying to absorb the information, and didn't know quite how to respond- I think she, therefore, felt awkward and this is why she giggled, which can be a common response in such situations.

However, I don't think Jackson was trying to be devious about his son or trying to hide anything. Who's to say when the right time is to reveal private information? This is very early days at this stage- they really have spent so little time with each other so far, as we are only a few weeks in, and Jackson has spent the majority of time in the other house, so they are still getting to know each other. In general, people do not tell people everything about themselves the moment they begin to be interested in someone- we gradually reveal more information about ourselves as we feel more secure about someone. This is in order to protect ourselves and the things that are most precious to us- in this case his son.

I think people are being very harsh on Jackson. His son clearly means the world to him, and the situation is obviously very painful to him- we don't know what has happened in his relationship with his son's mother, so I don't feel it is right to judge him without this information as it is just assumption.

I feel he was reluctant to share his photos, as maybe he didn't want to have to discuss his son on a tv show. I think he was afraid that showing the photo would bring out very painful and difficult emotions for him- which it clearly did- and he just didn't want this to happen as it is too raw for him, and because he is in the BB house. Although, he is on a reality to show, he is not obliged to share everything about himself, and be forced to discuss things he wants to protect, or are just too painful for him to discuss. However, having pressured him into sharing this with her, I would have expected Georgina to have shown a little more compassion and support when Jackson was obviously upset. Her failure to do so suggests that, emotionally, she just isn't on the same page as him, and is unlikely to be able to provide what he needs.

In my opinion this relationship is never going to work, and despite their attraction to each other, deep down they both know that- another reason why he might have been reluctant to open up about the most private and precious parts of his life. He has put Georgina on a pedestal but, again in my opinion, he is falling for the person he imagines her to be, rather than the person she really is- I feel this could be because he is at a stage in his life when he is ready to find that special someone, and is desperately trying to convince himself that Georgina is that someone. I think he is going to get hurt, as she cannot provide what he truly needs.

Georgina is already recognising all the negatives about the relationship, and has identified all the reasons it won't work. She has also been mentioning all the things she wants to change about Jackson- if you want to change someone so much, they are not the person for you. To show such embarrassment when thinking about him spending time with the important people in your life and such a reluctance about the idea of him being part of her social circle, is a massive sign that he isn't for her. Although she likes the person she is getting to know, I don't believe she would really entertain the idea of a proper relationship with him- I think she needs to be honest with herself and with Jackson about this.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 8745857)

she's a snob.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746269)

Jackson and Georgina are a Showmance, it's just that Georgina exposed how much she doesn't really care about him.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746271)

She might be, but tbf I think that some people (not all) are jumping down her throat because she's posh.

Just because she doesn't go gaga over a child that she doesn't even know doesn't make her a cold person like some people have suggested.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746272)

no, it's more how insecure she is, about what her family and friends would think of him, maybe she likes him, but she isn't like Jackson who already talks about a wedding, and saying to her 100 times how beautiful she is and a goddess, maybe she just needs some time, Jackson needs to calm down and just have fun with her in the house :)

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746277)

well said, she doesn't even know the child, and her heart is in the right place :)

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746279)

Jackson's very clever, going after Georgina knowing what she's like will end up seeing the mostly female voters take his side over hers in most scenarios.

Originally Posted by camertone (Post 8744669)

At first, I thought Georgina was honest and upfront, so I somewhat liked her when she called Marco on his bs. But now she seems a completely opposite person. She comes across a spoiled rich entitled girl who is so full of herself. She is such a debbie downer, and bitchy, and always moaning and complaining. She completely lied about Andy, then she got caught in her lie, and now embarrassed, so retaliating now. Jackson seems even worse, maybe those two deserve each other, even though it is not gonna last long at all.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746330)

Called it since day 2.

"I like bags and shoes... I am very expensive... You can't can't smoke..."

Ugh. The worst kind of money grubbing self entitled obsessed control freak. Nightmare GF material. Awful woman.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746330)

Called it since day 2.

"I like bags and shoes... I am very expensive... You can't can't smoke..."

Ugh. The worst kind of money grubbing self entitled obsessed control freak. Nightmare GF material. Awful woman.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746349)

okay, she's a posh rich girl, who has great taste in fashion, she's healthy without those cigarettes, i hate smoking as well


and how do you know that she is a ''money grubbing self entitled obsessed control freak and a awful woman''


can you explain your opinion some more? :hee:

Originally Posted by Yaki da (Post 8746344)

It's hilarious to me that a girl saying "I like bags and shoes" is treated like something particularly revealing about her character.

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746363)

Yep. She was gold digging for expensive gear when they lay in bed. That is money grubbing. If she is rich then she has her own money and shouldn't need to chase other peoples just because they fancy her.

I don't care what your opinion on smoking is, I don't smoke either though, but if a girl started trying to control my behaviour BEFORE we even got together the red lights and alarms would go off. In return, I wouldn't ever try to control a girl like this.

The fact that she thinks that she deserves stuff just for existing and can control others to suit herself is what makes her entitled.

She is awful.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8746230)

He's going too fast :facepalm:

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746381)

Doubt Georgina would go for someone like Jackson if she was "money grubbing"... It's just not a realistic theory.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746380)

why would she be gold digging, if she is wealthy herself, that doesn't make any sense :laugh: :joker:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746390)

oh, of course it does.

"Any woman whose primary interest in a relationship is material benefits. A woman who cares more about a man's bank account than she does about the man."

It has nothing to do with how much the person already has.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8745844)

I Love Georgina, and I like Jackson, but i don't like them as a couple, they just don't suit each other


I will remain loyal to Georgina, no matter what :)

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746393)

i don't know why we are arguing, both our favourites can get along perfectly together, Lateysha and Georgina, if we take their example :laugh:

Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 8746413)

I guess we are arguing because you pathologically defend each and every bad thing about Georgina and cannot accept she can do anything ever wrong and drown out every thread about her.

I think Georgina is a good HM as in she makes me want to comment about her, but I don't think that she is a good person. I see her as moody, self entitled, negative, controlling, and a gold digger.

I wouldn't actually evict her though. Awful people can make good HMs.

Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 8746349)

okay, she's a posh rich girl, who has great taste in fashion, she's healthy without those cigarettes, i hate smoking as well


and how do you know that she is a ''money grubbing self entitled obsessed control freak and a awful woman''


can you explain your opinion some more? :hee:

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746405)

Why? Thats such a dumb way to watch the show. Remain loyal to her as long as shes your favourite sure, but no matter what? Whats the point in watching it?

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746418)

Im a fan of credit where its due, but i also do the opposite.

She was my 2nd fave before last nights episode but she did make a **** of herself, that cant be defended, it is what it is.

A bit of character development and we see shes not as nice as we thought she was.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 8746422)

The Smokers are the ones that are in the wrong here as they shouldn't want to damage other people's health.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8746418)

Im a fan of credit where its due, but i also do the opposite.

She was my 2nd fave before last nights episode but she did make a **** of herself, that cant be defended, it is what it is.

A bit of character development and we see shes not as nice as we thought she was.

Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 8746439)

I'm a smoker but I don't see what's wrong with Georgina telling Jackson that the smoking is a problem for her l