"indeed no one, can justifiably deny that UKIP and Farage
were very instrumental in this campaign
and indeed Farage more likely the one who made the referendum possible."

Yes a Doug is the one UKIP MP
he can voice his view

Confirmed today on ITV1HD LIVE

Next Election is Month May 2020

I thank the Lady

That's what she says now arista, events as this referendum has shown can massively alter the course of what anyone hopes for or even says.
David Cameron was staying until at least 2019, he is going now.

I wouldn't be so sure this wrong act of saying no election until 2020 will be able to be so,when in fact an election may then have to be held at a time forced in 2020,when negotiations as to trading deals are at a critical point if it takes over 4 years or more.

He is Going Now with Valid Reason
not a problem

The EU50 Contract is going ahead this year



Ref: ITV1HD

"Do you want Gove or May?" :joker:

"Oh Hello sir, welcome, on offer today we have a sloppy sh*t-sandwich or, if that doesn't tickle your fancy, we have an ice cream cone doused in pig cum. Bon appetite!"

Fantastic TS

The very same people going for his job,and now saying only someone on the side of leave should be PM, are the ones who signed a letter asking David Cameron to stay on and see this through.

What a bunch of hypocrites.

I almost honestly believe after this referendum result, that no party or person really wants to govern and certainly not in the National interest whoever does.

..not sure if this has been posted ...

Theresa May has refused to rule out the deportation of EU nationals living in Britain after the country leaves the European Union, amid fears that guaranteeing their rights at this stage could lead to a “huge influx” of migrants during the Brexit negotiation phase.


http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...cid=spartandhp

...obviously there is the British nationals living in the EU as well.../..just a mess of uncertainty for people and the lives they have built...

Its not so much that she wants immigrants to be deported, she just can't preempt negotiations as it ties our hands.

They are expecting a huge influx prior to any exit, so that has to be manged too.

Hugely worrying time for non British residents, I'd like to think there would be an amnesty for those resident here at the time of the referendum, but who knows

Exactly, this would be the most sensible solution. Rule out the deportation of anyone who was living and working in the UK at, say, the start of July 2016. Don't rule out the deportation of those who arrive after that time, but make it very clear that this is the case (so that anyone considering migrating here knows the situation before making that decision).

Outright refusing to rule it out is insane. There are people here who have been living here for decades... Many of them have lived in the UK for longer than they lived anywhere else. The UK is their country as much as it is for someone born here.

We have an English woman at work who turned 60 this year, she moved to Scotland when she was 15. She still has a sort of weird hybrid accent but as she's fond of telling younger customers who mention her Englishness; "I'm more Scottish than you are, I've lived here longer!"

There are a lot of people worried Cherie and that is bad in any scenario.

Think arista is going to need to do a third poll the way its going, Leadsom looking more likely than Gove to face off against May

I've got to be honest I don't know as May's too authoritarian for my tastes.

And Gove is a complete clown across the board who's been setup by the right wing media into making Boris a "victim."

If it's the will of the people and the Tories then we can't protest it apparently.

But yeah I agree with you really, I don't want another group being attacked by the Media just to deflect away from the poor leadership that this country is receiving.

Once they've both got their leaders in place they should then plan to do a GE within a year.

Absolutely right,

They all have to get sorted out for the local elections next May Mock, there is no reason why a general election could not be fought at the same time and voting on the same day too.

Hardly any disruption, as if any disruption could be as bad as things are now.

Before any General Election it is time for Electoral Reform and Proportional Representation.

Ukip has ONE MP, but was the 3rd largest party with 12.6% of votes cast, and came second in 118 of the 650 parliamentary seats.

Britains TRUE political landscape under the more democratic PR would have seen UKIP with 82 seats and Cameron's team losing 90 seats.

Where would the Tory majority have been then?

And only the most bigotted of anti-Farage people would say that a Tory/UKIP Coalition would NOT have been better for this country than the Tory Majority which allowed them 'free rein' with some of the most damaging policies for the working classes yet seen in the UK.

Say what you will about Farage, but his track record SHOWS that he cannot be bought and he would have done what the Lib Dem's failed to do - and that is; put a brake on the most unfair and radical of Cam's policies.

Electoral Reform is overdue.

Actually as to that whole post I agree with you, and on the figures,it would have bee more likely to have a Conservative/UKIP coalition, I also agree that would have been considerably better than what we have now.

I am a newer advocate of electoral reform over recent years but have come to the belief it is time, with both major parties, getting easily under 40% of the votes cast now, that it is ridiculous a party can govern unfettered with only around 37% at best of the votes cast in an election.

I think pr would make for better policies,more inclusive govt and far better representative govt too.
Labour have flirted with changing the electoral system but never actually got round to it, although had the Lib Dems tried to do a deal with Labour in 2010,maybe they could have forced their hand more as to it, at least to a referendum on it, not AV that would not alter much,a proper pr system.

However now,I cannot see the Conservative party ever being persuaded to change the voting system ever.
I think their MPs would always vote it down.

I said this earlier,that no on can deny Farage and UKIP played their role in this referendum,I never agreed with their stance but they played their part.
It is now then shocking in my view that the house of commons make up stays the same with all the work and negotiations to be done as to leaving the EU.

On all of it going on with no election held, there will certainly only be a single UKIP party MP with a vote in parliament for all of that going on,if this new PM fails to have an election.

What is now needed is a new election,and I say this again too,even if that means Labour seats do fall to UKIP,Conservative seats fall to UKIP, whether it results in a Conservative majority govt or a Labour led one,or finally a Conservative UKIP coalition govt. 'so be it'

The voters should now be given the right to decide not only who but what make up of govt is elected to see all this through now.

Labour is one of the main parties I hope will come to the idea that pr is the way forward now, all would be in their hands and all other parties hands too to ensure they had the policies that are right for the Country as a whole and also probably more consensus policies too..

The SNP, Plaid Cymru, the Greens,Lib Dems and UKIP are all parties that could support pr, also the N Irish parties too.
It cannot be permitted that parties can govern as Tony Blair did and Brown with only 35% of the votes cast from 2005 to 2010,then this govt now with 36.8% of the votes cast to govern from 2015 to 2020.

It is now going to be in 2020,19 years since any party got over 40% of the votes cast to govern in a general election, that is to me anyway, and I think should be totally unacceptable now.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: A GREAT post Joey.