Theresa has a terrible track record on immigration and human rights, so they kind of balance themselves out. Just three days ago she was the only candidate of the five to not guarantee the places of EU citizens currently residing in the UK, effectively describing them as a bargaining tool to use in exit negotiations - literally using actual human beings as a political weapon. And as for LGBT rights:

Be under no illusion that everything would be wonderful under her premiership, they are both just as scummy as each other.

The pair of them are absolutely awful. This country is so so very screwed

They both look like power will go to their heads like Josy :oh: :fist:

Andrea creeps me right out. Like psycho nan vibes. Like you can just imagine her manically laughing and smiling whilst stabs you multiple times.

Should have put our houses on it being a woman :laugh:

I've said all along I find Andrea Leadsom false,I wouldn't trust her one inch.

Theresa May, I cannot stand but for me is my preferred choice from 2 of the probable worst candidates in any leadership election ever.

Just watched Andrea Leadsom being asked about gay marriage and foxhunting with hounds.

The latter she would bring back if she could, the former she said she would have preferred marriage remaining a Christian thing.
What, does she think non Christians and atheists don't get married.

I doubt you can trust much of what she says.

kind of worried about what your nan is like now! :shocked::shocked:

Hah. Shes lovely.

Interesting that that list doesn't include the fact she voted in favour of same sex marriage. Not exactly unusual that someone would have a different attitude to LGBT rights in 1998 than they do now in 2016. No mention also of how it was Theresa May who refused to let police use Boris' water cannons on London's streets and has criticised the lack of diversity in the police and clamped down on racially discriminative stop and searches.

ThankYou
MTVN
for putting the Facts Down

The Young on tibb
love Diss-information
its Shocking

I know she did, and we could list some of the positives of pretty much any of the five candidates (and most MPs for that matter) because no one - with few exceptions - are consistently abhorrent on every issue. She does however still have an appalling track record on immigration, was behind the 'go home' vans, said we should seriously consider pulling out of the ECHR (I don't care whether she's changed her position on this in the last week, I wouldn't rule it out), decimated police budgets and frontline officer numbers and decided to bring back the snoopers charter

And I don't really think the attitude change in LGBT rights is a necessary point either, I mean sure it's a good thing, but I'm pretty sure I could find a list of MPs who've been voting in favour of LGBT rights for decades - in fact Jeremy Corbyn is one of them. What's May's excuse?

She is just as appalling a candidate as Leadsom. You know we're ****ed when you wish a pig ****er would stay

The problem is and yes, people can change their minds as to issues,I have on many things from how I thought at 16 through to 20 and now to being 24.

However, these people who become MPs, do so from a place of found,formed and set convictions.
Even to the point of where their votes as MPs were put.

I think it is justified to wonder and ask why, and even if they really have done so in fact,that they have gone full circle on some very important and often sensitive issues.

[The problem is and yes, people can change their minds as to issues,I have on many things from how I thought at 16 through to 20 and now to being 24.]

Very True Young Joey

[She is just as appalling a candidate as Leadsom. You know we're ****ed when you wish a pig ****er would stay ]

Its OK Jack as time moves on
you will find one of the Ladies due to be Elected
by Friday 9th Sept 2016
better than a Fella, I love your posts
never stop.
Keep Your Chin Up

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Feck Me Nadine Dorries MP
mention that Andrea was in a top job
while being 7 months pregnant

some on this thread got angry
at the Mother thing


And Thanx for telling them
Gordon Brown never had a Election
after getting his job

2020 Month May perfect for the next Election
as everyone including OLd Dimbl on BBC1HD QT
needs a Holiday/Rest / Sack

If a general election is not held within a year,this PM will not have any major elected authority and will be as wrong as those before her who did not get their own mandate from the voters at large and not just from their own party.

We have never been in the position we are in now as to the EU, imprtant decisions have to be taken and very complex time consuming deals to be negotiated both in the EU and around the World.

No way should any PM be allowed to just assume office in such a scenario, never mind be arrogant enough to even want to.

She will be an unelected PM all through if she fails to trust the voters before starting the leaving process.
That will be outrageous.

YES just like New Labour G. Brown
did that as well.


Suck It Up - I tell them

Not you Joey, though
you are a Good tibber

Well the thing is he wasn't in fact unelected if you and the Conservative party feel it is fine for this leader to do so now.
All the criticism of him as to that should also be void now.

Not for me however, I think he was wrong and I will always say this leader will also, at a more difficult time will also be extremely wrong not to go to the Country.

Yes but its quite disingenuous to cherry pick her voting record to suggest she's completely opposed to LGBT rights by deliberately omitting her support for one of the most important pieces of LGBT legislation in recent memory. Sure some people were ahead of the times in their support for gay rights but amongst the general public its clearly been a case of slow but steady progression and its quite likely that May has followed a similar path.

With immigration its worth remembering that it was her job to cut the numbers to fulfil a manifesto pledge that the government were elected on. By all intents and purposes she did not clamp down on it as much as many in this country would have liked. Similar story with the police budget as well seeing as every cabinet member was tasked with finding cutbacks in their department. And crime has fallen under her watch, she's battled against abuses in the police force, she's fought to end modern slavery and refused to extradite Gary McKinnon to the USA - none of that ties in with an image of a woman who doesn't care about human rights. Theresa May would never have been my first choice for PM but we can do a lot worse and Leadsom would be a disaster.

Good point, it shouldnt matter at all. Although Leadsoms views on maternity leave, (and paternity leave) worry me. They are rights that were hard fought for, and could ultimately lead to children being adversely affected.:shrug:

Andrea Leadsom called for minimum wage and maternity pay to be scrapped for small business



Andrea Leadsom: 'No minimum wage, no maternity or paternity rights, no unfair dismissal rights, no pension rights'
By Adam Bienkov
Tuesday, 5 July 2016 8:57 AM

People working for the UK's smallest businesses would be stripped of their right to a minimum wage, maternity leave and protection from unfair dismissal, under plans previously backed by one of the favourites to become next Tory leader and prime minister.

Speaking in 2012, Andrea Leadsom told the House of Commons that she would like businesses with three employees or fewer to no longer have to comply with any employment regulations.

"I envisage there being absolutely no regulation whatsoever," she said.

"No minimum wage, no maternity or paternity rights, no unfair dismissal rights, no pension rights—for the smallest companies that are trying to get off the ground, in order to give them a chance."

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The comments contradict a statement she made during the launch of her campaign yesterday, in which she insisted that workers' rights would be "protected and enhanced" under her premiership.

"The national living wage, the apprenticeship levy and Michael Gove’s important pupil premium will all be safe under my watch," she insisted.

However, Leadsom has long been critical of plans to increase the minimum wage. Earlier this year she warned that the government's new 'national living wage' would be a magnet for migrants to the UK.

She said the policy would cause an "inevitable pull factor" which would lead to "the poorest Britons [suffering] the most."

Leadsom is currently gathering momentum in the contest to replace David Cameron. Her socially and economically conservative and religious views have gained popularity from leading figures on the right of the party including Iain Duncan Smith.

“She wants to turn Britain into Singapore on stilts, combined with 1950s social values," one Tory minister told the Times.

The Conservative MP is second favourite with the bookies to become the next Tory leader. A new YouGov poll of party members today found her beating all of her rivals, aside from Theresa May, in a head-to-head contest.

In a straight contest with May, Leadsom has the backing of 31% of members to May's 63%.

However, the race could narrow significantly in the event that Leadsom makes it through to the final round. In three of the past four Tory leadership contests, the front runner in the first round has gone on to lose in the final round, with the candidate viewed as the most Eurosceptic winning in all four.

Leadsom received a major boost to her campaign today, with the backing of former London mayor and leadership hopeful Boris Johnson. Johnson said that Leadsom had the "zap, drive and determination" required to be prime minister.

Today's poll found that the reputation of her nearest rival for second place Michael Gove, has collapsed among party members since his 'betrayal' of Johnson.


Just a third of Tory members now have a positive opinion of him, down from two thirds a week ago.

Supporters of Theresa May told Politics.co.uk they expect Gove to be squeezed out of the final two by Leadsom.

However, Leadsom's inexperience could still cost her a place in the final round after a disappointing performance at the first Conservative leadership hustings last night. Tory MPs described her appearance as "dreadful" and a "car crash".

Her speech, described as "rambling" by Tory MPs afterwards, covered everything from freight train lines, to the brain development of babies.

Leadsom also came under repeated questioning for her strong links to Ukip. The party's leading backer and leadership hopeful Aaron Banks this week threw the weight of his Leave.EU campaign behind her. Supporters of Theresa May believe Leadsom is being backed as part of an attempted Ukip-takeover of the Conservative party. Leadsom told the hustings that she would not take any direct funding for her campaign from Banks or Leave.EU.

That woman Andrea Leadsom is hiding something definately in my view, I would not trust her in anything whatsoever.

Leadsom's on the front page of The Times boasting that having children makes her a better candidate, probably knowing full well that Theresa May hasn't been able to conceive children

It will be Theresa May that will win without any shadow of a doubt.

She is a clone of David Cameron. She is a true Conservative that will keep the rich richer and the poor poorer. She will give into those unelected muppets in Brussels who demand the free movement of people if the UK stays in the Single market, and believe you me, she would never leave the single market as I heard her say in a speech after Brexit, so immigration levels will continue to rise under her rule and she don't care at all.