None of us care if you criticise our opinion, we just don't like how you pretty much regard our opinion as invalid/less important because it doesn't match the criteria you use to determine your favourites :shrug:

I'll be sure to point out whenever someone next says a housemate is underrated or overrated that they're defining what entertainment is and shouldn't be posting it!

This forum has some very strange habits

Good riddance.

She should´ve been gone when Emma & Victoria as twins escaped the house on the first time.

Marco and Chelsea should have gone as well as they did the same thing. Anyone doing it should be gone.

Am I the only one that's glad of the producers doing this? If u go into bb and try breaking out you should be out end of. It's along the same lines of the ones crying in the DR about leaving they should just open the door and say right go.no ****ing about.

I will be if they actually attempt to exercise a bit of consistency and don't just do it when it suits them. The jury's still out on that :laugh:

If it was a set rule then fair enough, but you just know there's gonna be future celeb HMs or even civilian HMs who break out and don't even get punished or the hot water gets turned off or something

Yeah I'm fine with this, just wish there was more consistency really. Willing to bet they wouldn't have ejected the livelier characters for something similar (Marco/Ryan/Natalie)

Emma has had loads of moments, I didn't like her at one point but she's still a good housemate. She fumed people the other day by pressing the button in 0.5 seconds.Her feud with Georgina was amazing and it was so natural. and so on. Emma has had a fair few arguments as well.

No Emma <\3

I agree

This is emmas second time though I think if this is a starting point for them clamping down on it then good on them

Then you take my posts far too seriously :umm2: I'm of the opinion that supporting housemates who aren't contributing to the series is detrimental to the show and without wanting to start a debate on that for the millionth time that's been my opinion year in, year out for the entirety of my time on this forum because I'm consistent

No one has to agree with that but I'm perfectly entitled to criticise people when they do not because I personally believe it has a negative effect on the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of. Again, you do not have to listen or care (and quite frankly I'm not sure why you would, I'm just some text on a screen) but I'm allowed to say so since that's the point of a forum, or else those who say x is underrated or y is a crap housemate are also defining what entertainment is and shouldn't be allowed to post that either

I know it's cause I'm in the minority these days and so it's easy to direct the criticism at me but I'm using the forum for what it's for so

Jack uses the logic that thhe biggest/loudest **** / takes up most the airtime is the best housemate. And I get it tbf, I can see why that makes sense to him. I just dont get why he doesnt understand that others dont like to watch it that way..

Exactly, and the key here is breaking out, she didn't go to the DR and ask to leave, so they could talk her down, anyone would think her bf had told her she didn't have a cats chance in hell of winning the thing :whistle:

WHAT!!!!!

'Loads' is an exaggeration and lots of them have come either as a result of producer manipulation or been instigated by other housemates

She isn't as bad as some of the others (and even the 'bores' this year have had their moments) but she's still by no means some amazing housemate

I refuse to believe it

http://i.imgur.com/OHZq7kD.gif

I'm happy this may set a precedent for future housemates to avoid doing it in the future as it is seriously annoying, but the intention is quite obvious when producers are in a situation where they need to literally get over half of the housemates out within the next 2/3 weeks.

Contribution is subjective. Just because someone dominates the highlights doesn't mean they're adding to the series in a positive way. Emma modelling the pens was funnier to me than anything a big "entertaining" character has done this series.

Yeah the breaking out is getting tedious

i loved emma....same can be said of any HM ....how does andy have

fans when he is such a smart arse thinking he is cleverer than others

i'm proud of emma we need more climbers etc

Mark L

I do understand why others don't and have said it on many occasions, the fact I judge houseguests on BBUS and Can mainly on who I like as people should tell you that (in a strange way it's also quite liberating), but I still think it's a detrimental thought process to the success of a show we all claim to be a fan of

Everyone is welcome to judge housemates how they wish, and I'm obviously not going to turn anyone's opinion around (I am now a minority compared to a majority several years ago), but I'm also welcome to question the reasons some housemates are popular and say that I think it's bad for the show. The two don't cancel each other out, that is simply the point of a forum

I agree with that

Agree.
There should be a button in the house. If you press this button no matter how upset/pissed you are then you are gone.
I'm tired of this walking out crap. Go if you want to go :wavey:

I'm glad in the respect that housemates constantly escaping is a pisstake

I dont think its detrimental at all, the show has improved week on week for me as the biggest twat left each time. Emma was great fun to watch, fun in the conventional sense, not fun as in shouts a lot and pisses housemates off. she'll be much more missed than Marco/Natalie/Georgina for that reason.

A lot of your posts have an undertone of 'my favourite is better than your facourite cus my favourite is louder and takes up more airtime' but nah, if the airtime somebody takes up pisses me off, that would make them a bad housemate, not a good one.

Contribution itself is objective, the quality of contribution is subjective

The point is that those who are contributing incite discussion on forums, social media and in real life. Discussion creates attention and attention leads to more success for the series, that's it. No one is going to hear about Emma talking about ~negative energy~ and decide to discuss it with someone or indeed watch the show for it, Andy starting an argument over gay rights for a clear joke on the other hand - probably

I was agreeing with you more than we have for years before I went on holiday, I come back and all your opinions have changed...what happened :o

people complain they dont get strict with rule breakers but cry when one of their faves break the rules and is punished

Georgina's eviction week definitely wasn't as good as Natalie's, this series is a bit up and down but the quality has been good, just to varying levels. All that is though is proof that if you pick a cast with few duds (even Alex and Sam have had their moments) it will deliver

But in a general sense it is most definitely detrimental to the overall, objective success of the show. Evict a housemate who is the star of the series and creating lots of discussion and it is going to suffer since all of that discussion is wiped out and they're no longer around to provoke things happening. Now the argument that succeeds this is always 'yeah but then we see other housemates!' and I just think that's silly, because effectively you're evicting a housemate you know is contributing on the gamble that someone else may or may not step up to the plate, and 90% of the time they do not (this series is a notable exception because of the aforementioned good cast) so it's a pointless decision which has a negative affect on the series. There are also instances where it negatively affects ratings too, I'm not making this up - there's proof of it

Don't equate loud with good cause that's one of my pet hates, I have plenty of favourites who are the opposite of loud :laugh: but of course I think my favourites are better, they're my damn favourites! What you and most viewers do though is think about what is best for your personal enjoyment of the show rather than what is best for the collective, and that's fine and a common 'obvious' way to think but it's also counterproductive to the success of a show you're claiming to be a fan of. A housemate may be annoying you, but is is far better that people have opinions on them and are talking about them than not!

so what if jackson decide to storm out.Ch5 will def bring him back,

emma was my only fave.....and i have no complaint

Mark L

But this is exactly what youre doing, you completely understamd that youre the minority who likes the gob****es yet you want them in.. Thinking about your personal enjoyment is exactly what you are doing.. Exactly what everyone does and then theres a common vote for the most popular opinion..

If you had it your way, the three evictees and probably Andrew would still be there
That would be a ****ing migraine.

Who Ross? Who is Emma? :hee:

No it isn't, I'm thinking about what's best for the series itself. If I thought what was best for me then my favourites would be completely different and more along the lines of who I support in the US and Canada. I support housemates in the UK based on the objective contribution they are offering to the series since those housemates are the ones sparking discussions and drawing attention to the show and thus they need to stay for the success of the franchise. Nothing more, nothing less. If anything I'm doing y'all a favour :joker:

As a side note I understand I'm the minority but rewind a few years and I was part of a majority who thought like this, I honestly don't know what happened but I've watched things fall by the wayside on this forum over the years and now it's only me and a few others who are holding the fort while many others who once agreed have now turned to the dark side :laugh: tragic, but what can you do?

& I'm officially sad.

:clap1:

good riddance to the fake plastic boring cow

Get smashed. :clap1:

She pressed that button again to ensure her and Josh could be the next celebrity couple.

So she needs to get out straight away so they can capitalise on it.
BB are now surplus to requirements.

I think the old Mother Theresa routine has run its course.

You're saying that the housemates you support are the ones you believe would be the best fo the series?
Even though there are opinion polls which show that those are the people that fans can not bare watching?
Youre just presuming fans dont know what they want but you know what they want
None of this makes sense.

People like Emma but shes a bad housemate cus youre presuming shes not beneficial to the show because fans dont really wanna watch her, theyd rather watch Marco and youre basin that on the fact that its what you believe to be true regardless of opinion polls which say differently?

That makes no sense. You need a sit down!

ITS CALLED KARMA beatch!!!

She choose to spend too nights with her fella - when as a new age hippie she should not have been so selfish!!!

And now she is with him all the time

INSTANT KARMA's gonna get you!!