Originally Posted by Jan S (Post 8828332)

i think Andy did what he could for Jason and knew he could do no more, that J had to work it out for himself.

the biggest difference in their situations, as i see it anyway, is that Andy was ostracised by the group and J was there for him - andy talks it out, whereas Jason is choosing to ostracise himself whilst he tries to figure out what he's done. he's a man of great integrity, and he's beating himself up trying to see what he has done 'wrong' so he can face up to it and correct it. he's so wrapped up in that process Andy can't help and has given him his space.

i don't see that he was bitching about J's accent - he was making his own observations about the brighton accent and how it sits in his own head. besides, most of us have had friends we really like but whose voice, when complaining or down, we can find irritating. that doesn't make A a Brutus anymore than it makes J a bumbling moron.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8828396)

:clap1: He's been stuck to Jason like **** to a blanket all week after hearing the cheers, Jason gets a few boos and off Andy trots to cosy up to the bedroom bitches (whats left of them )

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8828411)

Bang on right!And slagging him off in the diary room.

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 8828267)

I could be wrong but i thought Jason and Andy had a convo about the immune vote?

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8828345)

:joker: I can imagine Andy saying this in the DR and it being taken deadly seriously. You just don't get him, do you? :joker:

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8828396)

:clap1: He's been stuck to Jason like **** to a blanket all week after hearing the cheers, Jason gets a few boos and off Andy trots to cosy up to the bedroom bitches (whats left of them )

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8828411)

Bang on right!And slagging him off in the diary room.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8828399)

I like Andy, but if he nominates Jason he will lose all my support. Jason would never nominate him. :nono:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8828397)

I think exactly the same as you Jet....the number of times ive watched a vid clip on the big brother forum and then in the high lights show the edit has removed vital elements of a situation or a conversation,
I just apply logic to this...we've seen both Andy and Jason be there for each other but not at every turn and not constantly holding each other's hands.
Andy appeared to sit with Jason throughout the day keeping him company and suggested ways to lift his mood. And I'm really not knocking Jason when I say this, I empathise with how he must feel, but if someone refuses to try and refuses to listen to any advice then there's only so much you can be expected to do for them and abstaining from the party just to listen to Jason moaning isn't fare ....Andy shouldn't be expected to do that.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8828433)

He might as well nominate him. He's already been blasted and turned against for not wet nursing a big ass man when he'd tried all day to be there for him and it was obvious Jason wasn't going to snap out of it no matter what he said or did.
He was ready for that party after being with someone who was depressing the life out of him all day. I loved a tipsy Andy and it was a fun night overall. :laugh:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8828399)

I like Andy, but if he nominates Jason he will lose all my support. Jason would never nominate him. :nono:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8828444)

I like both immensely but they def don't stand by each other's side in every situation. When Andy had the whole house against him the night he stuck up for Jason over Lateysha and her bitches calling him a game player, Jason didn't stand by Andy, in fact he sat and listened to Alex who accused Andy of talking rubbish.

When Hughie targeted Andy in front of everyone then followed him to the kitchen to twist the knife and intimidate him, Jason was in the kitchen and said nothing.

It doesn't make them bad it just means some things are considered best left to sort through by yourself.
Andy clearly was trying to lift Jason out if his black mood throughout the day and I'm sure would have encouraged him to join the party. What more can you do.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8828482)

Exactly! I seen all that too and did I blast Jason? No. Because grown men don't need other grown men to babysit them all of the time and even friends don't always like everything about each other.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8828449)

I'm happy that andy enjoyed himself at the party,I have no issue with that,I also don't think Jason was being miserable at party time ,he said in the DR he didn't dance because "I'm like a transformer running out of batteries" so he just let the others get on and enjoy it,plus I think Jason probably needed that alone time and probably like me and others LIKE to be alone sometimes,it doesn't mean someone is miserable,Jason would have been too embarrassed to dance,some people are,that doesn't make him miserable,I just hope Andy is the friend to him that Jason has been to him,everyone can have down days no matter how big they are,I don't dislike Andy,just beginning to question a few things.I did think his impression of Jason in the DR a tad unamusing but maybe that's just me.

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8828474)

If any one has the right to feel sorry for themselves because of the crowd outside its Laura and she doesn't feel remotely sorry for herself, in fact she's told the general public to go and f-ck themselves....which I have to admit is her finest hour, made me laugh.

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8828467)

That's a very interesting concept ...imagine if Andy nominates Jason or if Jason nominates Andy....or they nominate each other and are both up for eviction.:laugh::laugh:

Who would you vote to save ?

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8829058)

Jason.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8829063)

Ditto ,i planned this week to save both Jason and Andy if they were up ,but not a chance of that now after last nights show ,I hate fake

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8829036)

But he has been....:conf: look how he stood by him when all the others were lambasting him about Laytesha. He risked being ostracised all over again when he was at last getting on better with most of the HM's. That took guts and a real sense of loyalty. If Jason wasn't in the mood to party, or doesn't like partying fair enough, but I don't like that Andy is being blasted because he DID want to party. (not by you, i know).
As for the DR impression - If everything is weighed up, the support Andy has given him is all for nothing, just brushed away, because he partied and did a Brighton accent while more than a little tipsy. That is how fickle and petty people can be and that's just plain sad imo.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8829082)

I see that Jet but it could also be said it is fickle to be a fan of someone one day then not the next day just because they have an off day,I like Andy and Jasons friendship,I hope it is ok,Andy is still the better housemate than the others apart from Jason,I don't dislike him I was just questioning it.I think Jason himself was happy for them all he just didn't want to party himself,nothing wrong with that imo.I'm sure they will be fine,but I do feel sorry that Jason has had to listen to Latesha blasting him today,seems very unfair.:wavey:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8829133)

Who has done that? I only see people liking Andy better than they did before. I haven't seen any posts saying they are no longer going to support Jason, but I've seen plenty saying they aren't going to support Andy any more. (You just said you were questioning him which is fair enough.)
I myself said I was a bit disappointed in Jason but I still liked him, but seeing the vitriol heaped on Andy all day I thought if you can drop my fave HM like that who you professed to like for so little then to hell with it!
I haven't seen the Laytesha thing...so she's going to be on tonight? I could do without having to see her gob again ffs :fist:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8829154)

I think it's a video link clearly aimed at Jason,i think BB need to give their heads a wobble surely they could have picked a different ex housemate and why are they so hell bent on pissing Jason off:shrug: as for Andy I am sure they will be ok again.