Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by cassieparis (Post 8927323)

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8927370)

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927376)

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927376)

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8927381)

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit :shrug:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927378)

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927382)

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927113)

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship :laugh:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927385)

No, not from one day to another.

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8927387)

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927389)

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927391)

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8927254)

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927065)

All housemates got friends and family, he was the only one to get something negative. Bots was also anti Bear, when only recently it has always been pro Bear. :suspect:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927133)

I think he just wanted to talk to her in private. Not like this.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 8927400)

I dont think yesterday was supposed to be for or against Bear, I think BB just got payed a good amount of money to promote that other show.

They would have bought her on regardless of their current relationship status. Had Bear have not cheated on her, it would have been a cute reunion. Had bear get down on his knees, admit he was wrong and cry in pain, he would have won the entire show very easily. But Bear just shrugged his shoulders and spent the day justifying his behaviour and I think a lot if people have reevaluated Bears character.

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8927401)

Should've dumped her "in private" then

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8927401)

Should've dumped her "in private" then

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927390)

I bet they wouldn't put this woman that Lewis has on the outside. They can't have their precious Lewnie looking bad.

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 8927349)

BB aren't doing anything,Bear has done it,it's his game,looks like he may have played it wrong,Marco got slated for this why is it different for Bear?

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8927075)

I don't think so. They definitely want him gone.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8927446)

So do we...:laugh:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8927068)

...but none of the other housemates cheated on their partners publicly and publicly 'dumped them' though Vanessa...don't worry though lovely, he'll be right..it all had to be done as part of his redemption arc and he'll be that final and probably win...:hug:..

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8927446)

So do we...:laugh:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 8927484)

He didn't make a mistake, he did it on purpose to create a storyline, can't believe people keep falling for attention seekers on this show

Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 8927525)

Only Bear himself knows what his intentions were, there's not much point in anyone else saying it was this or that when it's just guesses based on whether you are choosing to see him in a positive/negative light. He did also make a point of saying that he wants to see Chloe on the outside, so it's not like he just had his fun and isn't interested anymore. :shrug:

Originally Posted by Samm (Post 8927538)

He's been on countless reality TV shows, he knows what works even ex on the beach, and they all say that how they want to see who ever they snogged in the house on the outside it isn't anything new.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8927545)

No doubt he will for a bit, to milk whatever publicity he (and she i have doubt) can from it