I suppose they have to be responsible for rape as well? Or ill health brought on by problematic pregnancies? And it's been proven that no form of contraception is 100% guaranteed, hasn't it?

I don't think this is actually to do with abortions themselves though, unless I'm mistaken isn't the law just to do with abortion advisory services? Yes there's contraception but I think this law is going to impact women in areas of the world where contraception and education surrounding contraception isn't so readily available, and unwanted pregnancies are still going to happen regardless of that anyway, but taking advice and education about abortion away from those women is only going to have negative effects for them.

Unsafe abortions and maternal deaths will also result in those female babies dying. This isn't a ban on abortions it's a ban on information and education being given to women living in poverty.

Yes, they are things that would need to be looked into, however, and I don't know the facts, but I'd guess that those cases are not the ones that the majority of funding is going too.

No, because its coming from a man who appears to lack a normal amount of empathy... but then I think you get a kick from being peverse.

I think that if men want a say in abortion, they should be required to be more responsible when a woman becomes pregnant. Seeing this decision made by a roomful of men makes it look like an archaic control thing.

are we somehow saying the decision to have an abortion is a women only one?

:umm2:

1. I've barely talked in this thread, y u so obsessed with me
2. Stop being such a snowflake
3. Pc gone mad when we cant even talk about a world leader making backwards mistakes.

Classic Lt and the rest of the pc brigade being snowflakes.

again with the personal remarks :idc:

are you a dezzy sockpuppet because you sound very,very similar?

:think:

I found your slander pretty personal and incredibly unwarranted. Dont give if you cant take. :idc:

No, of course not.

Are we somehow saying the decision to have an abortion should be legislated by a room full of men?

Can a roomful of men... or indeed women... or a mixture of both, please legislate against the use of the term snowflake?

At least until the Flakes made with white chocolate on the inside are re-released by Cadburys anyway. Bloody lovely they were.

I heard the term 'Snowflake' comes from the film 'Fight club', is that true?

Mmmmm I could eat some of those right now.

Haven't seen it... I looked it up on Urban Dictionary. I'm so square.

Flakes (the chocolate bar) are also pretty fragile, maybe that word will do too when describing an easily triggered/upset/outraged individual.

Why don't you just debate your opinion and stop calling people silly names.

Who is going to look after them - you think people can force the mothers to do that too.

Meh, it was in response to being told I was being personally abusive in a thread that I made one post :shrug: I'm sure I'm less fine with this complete lie than the other member is with being called snowflake. I'm sure its less of your concern than you like to think it is too.

Also, the background youve missed is that the original member popularised the term
But you seem comfortable enough on that high horse, so we'll move on.

Well, I'm not on a high horse. But I can understand that it might look like that from where you are.

See? We can go backwards and forwards with this all night. Tedious. I wasn't rude to you get you had to come back with an insult.

We're all pretty nice people on here, with strong opinions. Let's try to get on more. Because frankly, it's a pain in the arse to go into a thread and see everyone being so bitchy. If we were all in a room rather than online it would be so different.

. I used the term snowflake in retaliation to something a lot worse.. Pretty similar to what you've done here, are you a fan of irony? Put me on that extensive ignore list if you dont like me behaving this way.. But umm.. Youve kind of done the same.

I have tried with you Withano because I quite like you. Usually I'd just put someone on ignore without trying to smooth the waters I don't always agree with you but you do make good points and you are passionate about your opinions and that's not a bad thing. But this is a debate forum. It's not a playground and it's not a war zone.

:smug: bom-chikka-wah-waaah

You haven't seen Fight Club? Ohh you're missing out, watch it!

"You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We're all part of the same compost heap. We're the all singing, all dancing crap of the world."

I don't think it was the first place the term "snowflake" was used, though.

The fact that you think that Straight White Men are victimised more than any minority tells me all I need to know.

You're definitely white because if you were any other race then you wouldn't have said that since you'd have likely had to deal with racism at some point in your life and would know the difference between being a victim of racism and desperately wanting to be one.

You're definitely straight because no LGBT person would believe that straight people are victimised more than the LGBT. Like I mentioned above, you only really find those kinds of victim complexes within the majority, not a minority.

You're definitely a man because your attitude towards women is pretty textbook misogyny.

What I said before still stands, you have never faced any kind of prejudice based on your race, sexuality or gender so it's beyond ridiculous to hear you bleat on about imaginary things that enforce your victim complex.

It's definitely a first salvo, women's rights are going to take a beating under Trump's regime.

@LT.

Republicans have a shocking policy on abortion and need get some perspective. What will happen when one of these health groups can't support a woman through an ectopic pregnancy?

Here we go withe the crystal ball routine

Um because many women get pregnant through no fault of their own (raped, contraception fails etc) and many women who can't afford proper medical abortions, or are banned from doing so, attempt it themselves which can be extremely dangerous and damaging to their health?

If you've got something useful to add then by all means go ahead.

Yes, let's have more dysfunctional families on this overpopulated planet struggling to get by and being raised by parents who knew themselves they weren't capable of being parents but were forced into the decision to become one.

An ectopic pregnancy isn't an abortion?

Kind of you to give your permission! :wavey:

From one high horse to another.

No Fine Lady
not all of them
Some women also go out to work
as their kids are stuck in school.


Can you help Dezzy
to Understand Trump Won
because of Jobs that Clinton said NO to.


Also Fine Lady
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=315520
can you post on this thread, if you find time,
as I went out of my way
to back this other Fine Lady on
something now in Parliament
and New Law


Thank You For Your Time

Yes Arista one of the reasons many voted for Trump was because of jobs in industry, so it is a promise he had better keep or there will be a mass turn around at the next election, but unfortunately some can't see much further than the 'isms' on this subject. It's all about agenda.

There will be a mass turnaround anyway. Half the reason Trump won was voter apathy, they got a 55% turnout which is really shameful for the world's supposed "beacon of democracy". And less than half of those who voted voted for Trump.

If anything positive will come from this, I would hope it's that a lot of people will have been shocked out of their stupor and actually bother to vote in 2020.

I was over in the states just before the election and spoke to alot of people about it, the vast majority felt like they were stuck between a rock and a hard place because they hated both candidates

The fact that 3 million more people voted for Clinton than Trump, and yet Trump is president, is surely completely broken as an electoral system. And yet, the people who would defend Trump's legitimacy are the same ones who are adamant that the binary UK-wide referendum vote is more relevant than the demographics and geography of the vote. Whichever suits, I guess :shrug: