if she wants to wear a 56k dress and she can afford it or was given it, what is the problem?

Personally, if I see any news relating to her and Harry now I just switch channels. She may be a nice girl and all that, but I really couldn't give 2 ****s

Don't mock me, I have my own mind and if I want my own revolution right here in my living room I will! Don't you have some fan fiction to write or something?

Maybe she did? Who cares, my point still stands it is an ugly show of ostentation when across the country many are homeless relying on foodbanks.

What am I meant to feel?... I don't understand Cherie.
It's a lovely young woman in a dress made literally of spun gold and the toil of millions of worms... how apt.

And the cold comfort is many can splurge their insufficient wage on a polyester version?

:joker:

Not cold comfort but ironic that people will find money to buy the polyester version in times where everyone is poverty stricken apparently

You don't think people are poverty stricken, do you know what the average student debt is?... or how easy it is to get credit?

I see pop stars, footballers and celebrities of all kinds parading around in clothes worth a ridiculous amount of money, and then see those same people on Comic Relief, Children in Need etc. asking us to give what we can.

Agreed, and then a few months later they are all pedalling their latest fragrances and fashion lines. Those with wealth will always flaunt it

What has that to do with the royal family and what they represent as figureheads for the United Kingdom?
Try to maintain the thread topic otherwise it whole thing derails and makes little to no sense.

You started the derail at post 78 and others piled in.

When are we going to get back to discussing how Harry can do better than second hand goods

She comes across as a bit fake to me and the clinging to his arm body language is a bit weird. I wonder if she'd be quite so in love if he was some ginger waiter from London. The cynic in me feels the actress got a great new job.

As to her frock, well as has been pointed out most celebs who can afford to dress it up and really if they earned it they can spend their money how they want. We might hope for them to spend on something more noble but few of us are that self sacrificing with money in our pocket. Also let's not forget someone has make the dress, there is a whole industry of people in a job because of those expensive dresses so cast them a thought when calling for madame Le guillotine. They are entitled to a living too. Where will they all be if we cease to cast pearls before swine and get down with our sack cloth and ashes?

Second hand goods? What is this 1950? Megan is a beautiful and successful woman, Harry has done well for himself

This is no ordinary male, he is a royal and she is a divorcee. We had this issue in 1936, do people ever learn? If we must have this anachronistic obsolete system of governance then we have to do it properly

Who actually gives a **** if she's a divorcee? Not Harry that's for sure, your comments about her are so disrespectful

The Church of England didn't allow divorced people to marry in church in 1936, unlike now.

The cynic in me also wonders whether she would be so keen if he was not a prince. People get far too carried away with romance and royalty.

The poor girl, jeez

Life isn’t supposed to be too easy when starting out - previous generations will be able to tell a few stories of sacrifice and going without. As for credit cards those old enough to vote are old enough to exercise self control. If they can’t afford the payments they shouldn’t spend.

I stated my opinion, you chose to mock it Sticks.

Says who?....

Previous generations know nothing about the cost of living today, do a few quick comparisons now...rent, food, fuel, utilities, tuition fee loans, it's not even nearly comparable.
Why are you presuming it is only the young drowning in debt while working and living hand to mouth?... it's every generation so your daily millennial bashing is wasted here.

I don't care if you agree with me on the dress being a sickening extravagance or not I felt it conducive to the thread and I mentioned it.

Actually I agree it is a sickening extravagance but I still believe too many today expect to have everything now rather than work for it over time. Free further education, high salary, own home, nice car, all mod cons, holidays abroad etc. It’s all now, now, now.

Many of the previous generations neither had or expected any of that. Just like now there were the haves and the have nots whilst others saved and worked two or more jobs to own their own homes, cars etc. This generation are not victims.

There is no concept of time now, nothing gets easier with age there is no money to save at the end of the month I wrk 4 12hr night shifts 4 off.. I live in a council house I live frugally don't run a car, don't smoke or drink and I have jack left at the end of the month.... Where is this utopia for 40 somethings?

We are ALL victims!

Ther is no utopia - except for the few. Most have to work for what they have whether they own their own homes or not. If they have the advantage of a uni education, even with student debt, they are in a better position than many but it seems all they do is moan. That’s because they aspire for too much too soon in my opinion.

Thanks for stating the obvious.
Explain how they're in a better position? and in my situation ...what can I aspire to brillo?
You've got all the answers for the young people what about old twonks like me living hand to mouth, what does the oracle suggest for me?

Aspire to a better paying job?

Oh gee Cherie why didn't I think of that?

Thanks :thumbs:

Someone get Cherie to the job centre, stat, she'll solve unemployment before lunch.

You kinda invited it :laugh:

Kizzy asked a question and I answered I wasn't speaking for the nation :hee:

No you were mocking me Cherie, thanks for your suggestion . Noted

My point in relation to the 56k dress stands.

No I wasn't mocking you Kizzy I was responding to what you posted, it seems obvious to me that if you are literally living hand to mouth that you would look around for a better paid job,you are well educated you don't need to be in a job that doesn't pay a living wage working ridiculously long shifts.


With regard to the dress, no one has argued that it isn't extravagant (if that is what it cost), the likelihood is she will never have to pay for another outfit as designers will be falling over themselves for her to wear their designs like the coat she wore for the announcement which was on the more affordable end of the scale

http://time.com/5037870/meghan-markl...agement-photo/

What about Charles and Camilla? they are both second hand goods in your world and Charles will be King, Harry is a minor Royal in terms of ever getting his bottom on the throne

I like Harry and I like Megan fair play to them ,she looks lovely in her 'posh' frocks ,who cares how much her clothes cost ,she earns her money so don't see a problem,Kate also always looks lovely and stylish.

I'm aware of what I could do Cherie, yet if you can try look at my situation as an analogy I was painting a picture of the working lives of many across Britain... the JAMS, the ones who homelessness is 3 payslips away.

That is not just a reality for young adults but all adults on 'minimum' wage.
Sorry for being unnecessarily blunt this morning.

H's a man though.......... seems only women can be second hand goods

thankfully, we don't live in a communist country where you can work your socks off and others feel entitled to a share of our own money.

Megan was an actress in a top show before she took up with Harry. How many actresses have we seen walking down the red carpet at events wearing stunning dresses. The majority of peoples reaction to that is not, she should have helped the poor rather than wear that dress, its wow, doesn't she look stunning.

If we dress everyone up in sack cloth, where is the enjoyment and fun in the world, where has the inspiration to succeed gone to.

There should be plenty people on here that can remember the amazing boost that Diana brought to the fashion industry. She single handed brought the fashion industry back to life inspiring a generation.

Yes. Very well said.
I am sure we all try to look our best for special occasions, whatever we can afford. There is no law about us all having to spend a set amount on clothes, we are all different and can spend our money on what we prefer.
We also have no clue as to if these richer people do actually give to the poor and keep quiet about it.

Good post. :clap1:

Firstly, don't be so bloody rude! My comment was COMPLETELY in context with the thread.

If it's the Ralph & Russo dress you're referring to, they are British designers. Like Kate, I imagine that Meghan will raise the profile of British designers across the world in much the same way that Princess Diana, and indeed the Queen have always done. This gives British fashion houses publicity they couldn't buy, demand goes up, more jobs are created... it's simple really.

Brilliant:wavey:

Where was I rude to you? You're the one swearing :/ More jobs are created where, do you thing the polyester recreations will be made here?... LOL.