I asked a simple question: would you feel the same if someone you loved was the one that was murdered? It's something that intrigues me when people say they are so against CP. No need for all the faffing about, deflection and manipulation talk, just give a straight answer or ignore if you wish...

But even if they passionately wanted death to the person who murdered their loved one, it's neither here nor there because Dezzy also said he believes there's no room for emotion in a court of law so therefore his stance would remain.

Now you can process that and understand it or continue to ignore it if you wish.

You keep referring to a court of law, WHY? I'm referring to a persons own feelings, how many times do I have to say it.
So they can passionately want death for revenge for their loved one, but not for someone else's loved one? They only want CP when it is personal to them?

Capital punishment involves the court of law. If you're asking people whether or not they agree with passing a LAW then there's nothing else you're going to discuss.

Re-read, his feelings on CP stress he feels emotion should have no input into deciding, therefore clearly... obviously to anyone with a modicum of reading comprehension knows he feels should a loved one of his be murdered, his emotions wouldn't produce a rational decision on the subject matter.

Exactly. Spot on.

It's a question that has no relevance because I've already said I don't want to cheapen my personal experiences for the sake of an argument and I thought you would have respected that like a decent person would.

So what would his decision be, rational or otherwise, as you are his spokesperson?

He is someone who has simply read and understood what I have said.

I missed that, so okay, I do respect that. Consider the subject closed.

Oh I'm sorry. Did I stumble into yours and Dezzy's private messaging inbox?

Here was me thinking you were posting on a public forum I was entitled to respond to. Silly me.

No,Too much to go wrong.
I am in favour of terrorists being shot on site though and life actually meaning life in prison.
That way,If someone is found to be wrongfully convicted it is reversible.

I actually feel it would be a massive backwards step, and a bit of a cop out too if I'm honest many killers try kill themselves when they're caught to escape the punishment of prison, this seems like playing into their hands and giving them what they want.

You missed the word "Private" in your title

Should A New Private Capital Punishment be Brought In.

Yes it should.

You can't presume to know what people know or don't tbh and you are normally the first to call people out on that. I don't think prison is a hi de hi holiday camp but o don't think its tough enough to act as a deterrent and yes I know people who have been in prison who say its an easy life. I also know plenty of prisoner officers who will confirm that too.

I don't agree with that terrorists being put to death as it immortalises them as martyrs who dies for the cause and they become idolised by people....let them rot in jail

Never get a Parliament Vote through
if its Hanging.

Due to justice problems
of course.

No they dont

You know plenty of people who have been in prison?

really?

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For those people who think it's terribly wrong to kill someone who has inflicted fear and pain onto kids and people,and a lifetime of unhappiness for their families, but it's ok to do the very same to some animals so you can eat them, that sounds logical.

Death penalty or not, the choice to murder someone is up to you, so be aware of the consequences.

or kill an animal because no one wants to look after it

Yes,and that LT.:wavey:

You can't run law on an emotional level. It seems to me that the people who shout the loudest about Islamic law, want to incorporate an Islamic law style system over here. In certain Islamic countries, rape and murder are treated on an emotional level. The family are asked if they want the culprit to receive the death sentence.

Its illegal to kill a murderer but legal to kill an unborn child with an abortion..

Us humans are a strange animal.

Yeah I have heard people from prison who go in and see it as free gym membership and come out looking like Dwayne Johnson although this is for more minor criminals who don't warrant the death penalty.

I agree with abortion, I think that's a different matter, but for example humans shoot and hunt harmless animals as a 'fun' activity yet evil people can't be given the death penalty? Also it's about choice, America has the death penalty, and although hardly uses it, it's still a good option for extreme cases. How is it okay to 'shoot and kill' certain criminals on the scene but the justice system doesn't allow a death sentence?

It's an observation and it's not the same as what happened earlier so I don't really see the relevance of the comparison here.

I do, I live in a rough area.

Yes, it's legal to abort a bunch of cells, I don't know why you are comparing a foetus to a human being, it's a very flawed comparison.

I have never discussed Islamic law on here so not sure why you responded to my post implying I shout loudly about it.

Don't quite understand this Dezzy, you said you know people who have been in prison who said its not a holiday camp, I said I know people who have and said its not hard. How is that comparison not relevant? Its a counter argument to yours so if my argument is not relevant then surely that negates yours? Not trying to be arsey here but not sure I understand what you mean

I'm talking about you essentially saying I'm a hypocrite, not that your experiences contradict mine. I didn't even mention your experiences.

I didn't mean YOU were a hypocrite but if someone else had made a blanket statement as you did about you would be calling out people for making assumptions about people's personal experience that you know nothing about. I personally said that I think prisons are too soft and in your statement you said that people who think prisons are like a hi-de-hi camp have no experience of the prison system or what happens therein. I was just saying I took exception to that, as I DO have experience and STILL think they are too soft. That is all. I'm not about to get into a tit for tat argument as that really isn't my intention but reading that just riled me

How do you know?.... Do you know how many killers have offed themselves in modern history or on suicide watch?

so how do you know why they did that then?

Almost as logical as you making that completely ridiculous and unrelated comparison to begin with.

For those who think it's terribly just to kill people found guilty in a courtroom. Is this bloodthirst worth the innocent people wrongly convicted and sentenced to death?

How can we justify calling murder morally wrong in our society whilst simultaneously calling for people to be killed like a baying mob?

It would be good to get a hangman back in business (and creating jobs) and the death could be streamed live to the families first and then on sky after 9pm. Jeremy Vine would be a good host but it would have to run advert free I think.

Jeremy vine should be hanged first. Just to test the apparatus is functioning correctly of course.

Maybe a guest presenter each week who gives it a go?

I know you are thinking rylan

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