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Let’s all love each other tho there are enough bad things in this world <3

Like Andrew brady

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Originally Posted by Lilac hills (Post 9823266)

Ok last post I’ll make on this hungry af

A lot of the things mentioned aren’t feminist/sexism issues. The wage gap is debatable but the statistics usually are misleading and don’t account for other external factors. Sexual abuse is bad people doing bad things to other people, not men doing bad things to women. The current Hollywood situation is bad, but harvey weinstein is not all men, it is an issue but it’s not reflective of day to day life and all normal people; men get sexually abused a lot it’s just not talked about mainly because men are taught early on to reserve their feelings and not show emotion, because if they are they are laughed at, and I’ve never seen a feminist vouch for this issue hmm. Abortion is something women are voting on too it’s not just ‘men are impressing our bodies hngg’ and anyway on the flip side if aborting becomes illegal the individual carrying the baby can just give birth put the responsibility of the child on the father and make him pay all the expenses!!!

I mean we can go in circles debating feminism on a big brother form but let’s just agree to disagree

I agree that the rates of sexual abuse against women being higher isn't necessarily a feminist issue (it's an issue... just not a feminist one). I think it often gets treated as one because women make up the majority of victims but I think that's better explained by sexuality rather than sexism or attitudes, as in most abusers are men and most men are straight. If the sexuality of abusers was 50/50 gay/straight then I think the rates of sexual abuse between men and women would also be equal but that's not reality (and nothing to do with sexism). So the real question is why are men more likely to be sexual abusers and I think nature probably plays a big part in that (although I don't really know enough about it tbh).

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Originally Posted by Bones (Post 9823014)

As i said, you are so naive :)

Mate, I'm forty-fkin'-seven. I have every tee-shirt going :laugh: Naïve went out of my world about 30 years ago :joker:

No feminist either. Equality yes.

I want Daniel to win FFS!

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Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 9823325)

Mate, I'm forty-fkin'-seven. I have every tee-shirt going :laugh: Naïve went out of my world about 30 years ago :joker:

No feminist either. Equality yes.

I want Daniel to win FFS!

Ok then :joker: Sorry my mistake :)

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9823323)

I agree that the rates of sexual abuse against women being higher isn't necessarily a feminist issue (it's an issue... just not a feminist one). I think it often gets treated as one because women make up the majority of victims but I think that's better explained by sexuality rather than sexism or attitudes, as in most abusers are men and most men are straight. If the sexuality of abusers was 50/50 gay/straight then I think the rates of sexual abuse between men and women would also be equal. So the real question is why are men more likely to be sexual abusers and I think nature probably plays a big part in that (although I don't really know enough about it tbh).

misogyny i feel plays a HUGE part in it

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Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 9823331)

misogyny i feel plays a HUGE part in it

Not really.

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Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 9823331)

misogyny i feel plays a HUGE part in it

If misogyny was the reason behind someone sexually abusing some else though then men wouldn't be victims of it, it follows a pattern of straight men abusing women and gay men abusing other men. I suppose misogyny could be a factor, like I said I don't know all the facts I'm just assuming really, but it just seems to make more sense to me that the rates are what they are because of sexuality.

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Originally Posted by Jamie89 (Post 9823323)

Honestly it may have something to do with nature, definitely not totally unplausible. I’d like to think that most people in the first world surpress natural urges when it’s at the expense at another person tho however.

And tbh sexual abuse and rape is a bit of a grey area. A lot of people that have been abused, both men and women, don’t speak up about it in fear of being ridiculed or being seen as less of a person. Rape is also a difficult crime to prove. If there are no noticeable scars or anything. Two people can claim rape, one genuine the other not, both have no physical harm to prove it so how do you distinguish if they’re legitimate? I think in this case for a lot of cases involving women abuse people get accused of victim blaming if they don’t believe the victim ykno so this can lead to a lot of false accusations. Again it’s all a bit of a grey area so liek ykno

Sometimes it does come across like she's overdoing it.
The time when she wanted to let Jess talk about Page 3 and saying later that she wanted "to empower a fellow woman", like it's some sort of a disability that requires empowerment - hoping on the feminist train to nowhere. A bit like a walking facebook post of inspirational quotes.