...well maybe if you were brave enough to venture to East Anglia, i’d have some rooms ready for you and all the TS people to stay...we’re quite welcoming here, I think..by birth, I’m a Northern gal though, so I do find the local people strange sometimes..:laugh:..

...mind if you start sneezing then you’re out...I’m quite OCD about stuff like that..

Excellent, well thought-out argument. 10/10.

Its interesting that we howl at the gollywog but are "happy" with say the fashion industry and its hideous caricature of what a woman should look like?

Its not a direct comparison i know but its one for sure

http://www.adinnerguest.com/wp-conte...nny-models.jpg

It’s a stuffed toy. We all know what it represents but there are many things to be offended by, such as the use of offensive language and treatment which is much more dangerous. A lot of women get offended by stupid stereotypes such as Barbie dolls, me included, but to ban one and not another shows how society as a whole treats the views of women. Women however are expected to ignore it and get over themselves. It’s just a bit of fun don’t you know.

Then to appease certain religious groups dominated by men women are expected to tolerate women covering themselves in public and everything that represents but yet again women are expected to suck it up. Men self-identifying as women are being given rights that override the rights of women born that way but still women are expected to suck it up. I would say sexism is a bigger problem in the modern world than racism or any other ‘ism’.

..it isn’t any type of comparison though, not even a vague one...the two thought trains are of ‘acceptability in the past’ v ‘acceptability and offence in the present day’ and what we now are given reason to think more deeply about...I think that most people agree that past or present, ‘too slim’ has never been acceptable to portray as ‘fashionable’...

Literally nobody is 'happy' with the fashion industry. Who did you talk to before deciding that this was a fact you should share?

people buy the clothes, they buy the magazines that support the industry, they watch the tv shows

i dont see any demonstrations in Londons streets

i expect every member bought clothes in high street shops in the last month


Not sure what point it is you are making?

Only nudists are unhappy with the fashion industry then got it. Your logic sometimes is so superhuman, its hard for me to keep up.

i understand you try your best and that is all you can do

I like how this slightly interestin discussion dissolved into people ignoring good posts and responding to random points to make their argument look better

Welcome to Tibb


:douf:

It’s only women, they are expected to suffer ie starve themselves, nevermind the long-term effects that is likely to have on their bodies, all in the name of selling sex - of the female kind that is. I don’t see male models expected to look that way.

Women are used to sell sex in most industries, not just the fashion industry, and the message is always the same - to please men, of any colour. It has always been and still is a far bigger problem than other ‘isms’.

Apparently Brillo, youre not unhappy with this because you wear clothes. LT has spoken.

well its as complicit as having a gollywog in your pub if you take it to a logical conclusion

Yeah a similar number of people in the country wear clothes and own gollywogs. These are all good points you are making LT, i dunno why youre being defensive.

im not the one denying the fashion industry and its portrayal of women is largely ignored whilst trying to be outraged about a puppet


because, that be you

You literally made the thread about the puppet, and not the fashion industry, sweet lord have your breakfast, already.

wtf has this got to do with gollywogs and pubs :shrug:

One can make a comparison in order to highlight the futility of the other?

It really isn’t for any poster to decide which are appropriate posts for others to respond to.

:joker::joker:

https://i.imgur.com/YdDzG2R.jpg

So women have to be stick thin to the point of damaging their health to sell sex, oops I mean’t to say clothes, in order for women to wear clothes, yeah that makes sense. I think we all know what they are really selling.

I would say most are not happy with the fashion industry and how it portrays women tbh

I thought you were a skinny chaser. I am sure I remember a thread you posted of a very thin person where you claimed she was perfect or something, and then all th threads on people even slightly overweight with 'its gross' and such

But I don't really get what anorexic models have to do with gollys? :suspect:

Plenty people are not happy with the way animals are treated and dont eat meat but i dont think I will see anyone at say the OScars who wont be bedecked in Fashion that promotes anorexic girls

oh wait they may wear a different colour to be angry about Harvey Weinstein..

:idc:


that will learn him

People have to wear clothes. It would be an interesting Oscars ceremony indeed if they all turned up nekkid :D

Take a step back and reread the thread, this is one of those rare times we're on the same side of the argument.

Men don't tend to find it in any way attractive; if you look at the girls in "mens magazines" etc you'll find that they're never stick thin. If men found stick thin women attractive that's what would be in those magazines :shrug:. The fashion industry is a separate entity and it, frankly, has very little if anything to do with the vast majority of straight men.

:I think the point was LT assumed we are all happy with the fashion industry because we wear clothes, and because nobody was bringing the fashion industry up in his thread about this blokes pub.. and that made us all hypocrites (even though he seems unhappy with the fashion industry but fine with the pub himself... i dont think hes had his breakfast).

Non-offensive golliwog dolls launched after pub complaint

http://www.southendnewsnetwork.net/w...6D5226BBA.jpeg


A toy manufacturer in Essex has launched a non-offensive golliwog by making it white instead of black.

According to toy maker Schwartz PLC who are based in Canewdon, the ‘Jolly White Golly’ will allow collectors and children alike to enjoy ‘all the charm of the original golliwog without upsetting any black people who may see it.’

The company’s chief executive David Frenulum has already offered a set of five to The White Hart, a pub in Grays that has been in the news after the landlord received a complaint for displaying traditional golliwogs behind the counter.

David added, ‘Parents have told us that they want to allow their children to enjoy the traditonal golliwog without promoting any racial stereotypes, and so this is an ideal product for them.’

’Also, by making him white, there is absolutely no scope for religious offence as it is an established fact that white people are not entitled to feel prejudiced against about anything anymore.’

‘The new toys start at £9.99 each.’

It has been a stormy week for companies trying to avoid causing offence, with one cleaning company in York being forced to change their name from ‘Spick and Span’ after local Mexicans said that it made them feel ‘uneasy.’

There is also a court case in progress at the moment with a number of Italians suing the London Borough Of Wapping.

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for Manchester City Football Club has confirmed that Kun Aguero will not be forced to leave this summer, despite complaints from the Black Football Fans’ Alliance.

http://www.southendnewsnetwork.net/n...hed-after-pub/

The word *** is a diogatory word

fixed

Should just give you my pass word

Ah right. well that..makes sense. In no way.

Tbh the whole race issue aside these dolls are repulsive anyway no matter the colour why would you want them around ur pub lmao

To make a statement.

No bloody way does someone have 15 of them, some very large, there for any reason other than to be a dick :laugh:

id imagine people bring them in to them, happens a lot in pubs, they collect things from regulars

He does say in the article some were gifts from customers.

The pubs not ****ty though, you are judging it without ever stepping foot in it.....typical....ive been in, it looks nice from outside and sits directly next to a uni campus...which most of its custom comes from...inside its nice as well with a well kept beer garden outside for kids to play while parents refresh.

I don't see the interest in them either, they're weird caricatures :facepalm:. I understand people have them from their childhood but they don't have a positive image attached to them .