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jaxie 10-04-2018 12:05 PM

I saw the flower shrine thing this morning. Incredibly tasteless to put that outside the home of the man he tried to rob and attack with a screwdriver. Those sentiments should have kept for his funeral if they felt the need.

I think it speaks very loudly about the kind of people they are. They obviously don't see any wrong in what he was doing.

Amy Jade 10-04-2018 12:22 PM

Nobody with a 'heart of gold' is a serial criminal and specifically burgles vulnerable pensioners homes.

Glad the residents ripped down the memorial. I would have happily helped.

Brillopad 10-04-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9953213)
I saw the flower shrine thing this morning. Incredibly tasteless to put that outside the home of the man he tried to rob and attack with a screwdriver. Those sentiments should have kept for his funeral if they felt the need.

I think it speaks very loudly about the kind of people they are. They obviously don't see any wrong in what he was doing.

According to the Metro the couple have been forced out in fear of reprisals. The whole bunch of the them are low-life scum.

Kizzy 10-04-2018 12:31 PM

I don't see any merit in attacking a grieving family, yes he was a despicable criminal but isn't that why we have a justice system?.. I don't really agree with vigilante justice at all.

Cherie 10-04-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953232)
I don't see any merit in attacking a grieving family, yes he was a despicable criminal but isn't that why we have a justice system?.. I don't really agree with vigilante justice at all.

The couple can't return to their home due to fear of reprisals, so the family putting up a shrine seems more menancing on that basis, where is the justice in them having to give up the home they have probably lived in for most of their lives?

jaxie 10-04-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953232)
I don't see any merit in attacking a grieving family, yes he was a despicable criminal but isn't that why we have a justice system?.. I don't really agree with vigilante justice at all.

Come on Kizzy it's clear the family are being deliberately provocative.

user104658 10-04-2018 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953232)
I don't see any merit in attacking a grieving family, yes he was a despicable criminal but isn't that why we have a justice system?.. I don't really agree with vigilante justice at all.

I don't agree with them actually being targetted or anything like that, but I do strongly suspect that putting up a memorial on the street that he was burgling when he was killed is a deliberate attempt to intimidate... it's not so much "we'll never forget our family member", more a pointed "we loved him, you killed him, and we're not going to forget THAT".

With that in mind, and while again saying I don't think anyone should "retaliate" over it, I do think it's right that the memorial was removed.

AnnieK 10-04-2018 12:56 PM

A memorial outside his own property would have been fine, putting it where he committed a crime is provocation to the home owners and also possibly intimidation. The couple have been placed with protection for fear of reprisals at the moment and threats have been made by his family. It was rightfully removed, but his family do have the right to grieve him, criminal or not he was a dad, son, brother etc. but doing it at his property is much more acceptable imo.

Brillopad 10-04-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953232)
I don't see any merit in attacking a grieving family, yes he was a despicable criminal but isn't that why we have a justice system?.. I don't really agree with vigilante justice at all.

That disgusting family are quite happy to bully and intimidate an old man and his disabled wife who were the victims of their family member. No tears here.

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 01:17 PM

Good that locals tore down that filth's flowers left by braindead morons who were related to him

Kizzy 10-04-2018 01:40 PM

Ah so now the whole family are dehumanised?... ok.

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953271)
Ah so now the whole family are dehumanised?... ok.

No, only the disgusting pigs leaving flowers at the pensioners house

Niamh. 10-04-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953272)
No, only the disgusting pigs leaving flowers at the pensioners house

Can't disagree with that. It's intimidation and disgusting behavior. Of course as parents they're going to be upset their son is dead but they should also be sorry that his last actions were to terrorise elderly and disabled people, the fact that they've chosen to carry on that intimidation kind of implies that the apple didn't fall too far from the tree

Mystic Mock 10-04-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9953239)
Come on Kizzy it's clear the family are being deliberately provocative.

Some families are scum.

Sticks 10-04-2018 03:14 PM

From the BBC News website

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Many residents in Hither Green have interpreted the large tribute to Mr Vincent as an aggressive act.

One neighbour said they saw a car circling the block while the tribute was being erected, which they believe was an attempt to intimidate locals.

If intimidation was the aim, it appears to have worked. Most neighbours are reluctant to talk publicly, for fear of being drawn into a dispute that may not be over.
So if someone breaks into your house, comply with their every wish, if you know what's good for you and your neighbours :shocked:

jaxie 10-04-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sticks (Post 9953339)
From the BBC News website



So if someone breaks into your house, comply with their every wish, if you know what's good for you and your neighbours :shocked:

It just emphasises even more what an unpleasant family the person who took the screwdriver into a pensioners home to rob them is from. I guess that's why he turned out the kind of bloke who preys on old people.

Cherie 10-04-2018 03:29 PM

Attaching them to some else' s property as well.

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 03:39 PM

travellers it would seem..

Oliver_W 10-04-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953368)
travellers it would seem..

Then I guess more than just the flowers will be left out in their street before long...

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953368)
travellers it would seem..

That would have been obvious if you read the link I posted

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9953379)
That would have been obvious if you read the link I posted

The Express?


I would never compromise my liberal worldview with that right wing nonsense

:hmph:

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953389)
The Express?


I would never compromise my liberal worldview with that right wing nonsense

:hmph:

I heard it on the news and it was the first link that came up :nono:

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 9953373)
Then I guess more than just the flowers will be left out in their street before long...

Interesting, I guess a whole swathe of stereotypes that wouldn't be tolerated in any other group are on the tip of your tongue :idc:

Amy Jade 10-04-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9953271)
Ah so now the whole family are dehumanised?... ok.

The family members who are clearly trying to intimidate a poor gentleman and his disabled wife after he simply defended himself against their scum relative who had broken into his house? Yes they are scum.

If my family member was killed in a similar situation I wouldn't go to the innocent parties property to lay flowers, it's incredibly thoughless.

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9953414)
The family members who are clearly trying to intimidate a poor gentleman and his disabled wife after he simply defended himself against their scum relative who had broken into his house? Yes they are scum.

If my family member was killed in a similar situation I wouldn't go to the innocent parties property to lay flowers, it's incredibly thoughless.

:clap1:

Oliver_W 10-04-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9953413)
Interesting, I guess a whole swathe of stereotypes that wouldn't be tolerated in any other group are on the tip of your tongue :idc:

Judging by the family's behaviour so far, we can expect the worst from them.

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 9953414)
The family members who are clearly trying to intimidate a poor gentleman and his disabled wife after he simply defended himself against their scum relative who had broken into his house? Yes they are scum.

If my family member was killed in a similar situation I wouldn't go to the innocent parties property to lay flowers, it's incredibly thoughless.

It's not thoughtless, it is sending a message, and they have been back to relay flowers that were ripped down today, you would think they would have left some police on duty to prevent this happening.

bots 10-04-2018 04:32 PM

if someone dies in circumstances where they were involved in criminal activity, its not normal to leave flowers at the scene or try to commemorate the event. I find it pretty tasteless

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9953423)
It's not thoughtless, it is sending a message, and they have been back to relay flowers that were ripped down today, you would think they would have left some police on duty to prevent this happening.

yes, to boot these scumbags back to where ever they come from

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:41 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/20...3371445364.jpg

:skull:

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953440)
yes, to boot these scumbags back to where ever they come from

England? With names like that they were born here

bots 10-04-2018 04:46 PM

that is actually defacing private property

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:47 PM

It’s on the ITV news and the locals are out jumping on the flowers :omgno:

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9953449)
It’s on the ITV news and the locals are out jumping on the flowers :omgno:

they need to set fire to them all

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 9953447)
England? With names like that they were born here

lol not i meant where ever they have set up

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953455)
lol not i meant where ever they have set up

:hee:

bots 10-04-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9953451)
they need to set fire to them all

thats not very fair on the locals :shocked:

Cherie 10-04-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9953460)
thats not very fair on the locals :shocked:

Terrible

user104658 10-04-2018 05:26 PM

Jumping on them (or burning them) is giving these people exactly the reaction they're looking for to start a mini-war. The anger is understandable but people should simply take it in turns to calmly go out, take the flowers down, and bin them.

Crimson Dynamo 10-04-2018 05:31 PM

the scumbags leaving the flowers..

Its like I am living in a parallel universe to people like that

how can people so badly educated with no empathy or decency exist?

:shrug:


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