A very good point regarding the different shows which contain racist-jokes, etc..Stu:thumbs:

In the 70's there was a series called, "Love Thy Neighbour", many people enjoyed that series then and even now. It is a available to buy on DVD today.

But today, anything which contains Racist jokes is being scrutinized too. This is why Endemol had no choice but to instruct Big Brother to call (Jo & Jack) to the diary room and give them both formal warnings and explain why.

Beyond those interviews, Endemol edited the "Limerick" out of the show, "So the Daily Star tells us"

My head is screwed on right:thumbs: and to anyone who thinks otherwise, I shall laugh & laugh at the ****

Shilpafan is a Shilpafan and as a Shilpafan will support Shilpa and as two white housemates have cracked a joke, using the word:- "Tacky", (Jo O'Meara & Jack Tweed) obviously meaning the word (P), who are also friendly to two other housemates too, (Jade Goody & Danielle Lloyd) who have been brought into this "jest", as they are together on the dislike towards Shilpa Shetty, as they found her quite patronising and other stuff....

Anyway, I can understand Shilpafan's dislike of this racist joke ! and she is entitled to her opinion, as do other members, who may feel the same or differently.

This is where Endemol used their nouse at this point, so it wouldn't end up offending anyone, as it was edited out.

But like, Stu & myself has said, "Racist jokes have become acceptable in society", "for as long as I know"

If it wasn't? Then everything to do with "Racist jokes" would be totally BANNED, but it isn't...

Type in the (P) word & then put (Dot Com):- "That is:- .com" and you will be shocked at that website.

This goes to show that it is accepted on the web.







nodisharmony :angel:

Stu, most of the shows you have listed use race either as a parody of other shows of do it in a satirical way. The cbb contestants would not know satire if it kicked them in the nuts. They were just looking for words that rhyme with "****" for a laugh and did not care for the affects it may have had on others. If there was no harm in what they were doing then why not do it in front of Shilpa? Because they knew it was wrong.

"In the 70's there was a series called, "Love Thy Neighbour","

Once again Warren Mitchell was using satire to take the piss out of white working class people who held the same views as "Alf Garnet". In a recent interview he talked about how people who still have those views come up to him thinking Alf Garnet was a real person and a hero for their kind.

With regards to ****.com That is young people of Pakistani decent claiming the word back for themselves. In the same way some black people use "******" and some gays use "fag" This is not "Shocking". Does that mean you can use "******" and "fag"?

Well if you do not want to support the TV show that brought this racism to our screens , dont watch Big Brother 8. Its as simple as that.

This racism row was not a big deal at all , it could have gone unoticed , but it just so happened that the papers picked it up. Racism. Boo Hoo. Big deal. I have no time for these zealots who months later are still going on about it , effectivly spreading the word of racism.

You want to see it as racism? Fine , but get over it and look at the bright side of life.

The indian people did themselves no favours by appearing on the news burning effegys. Thats promotion of hate , and I think you will agree its not much better than racism.

"The indian people did themselves no favours by appearing on the news burning effegys. Thats promotion of hate , and I think you will agree its not much better than racism. "

I agree with you.

"Racism. Boo Hoo. Big deal"

Yes it is actually.

I note you have the gay pride flag as your pic. Homophobia. Boo Hoo. Big deal?

Oh, I have no problem with big brother. Just hate mongers.

Err pretty much yeah for me. Because ive never encountered it personally , and I see no reason to give any sort of thought , care or recognition to homophobic people. Look on the bright side.

So yeah. Boo Hoo. Big deal.

So when it does happen, say you or a partner gets "gay bashed" you will still think the same or is it just a case of I'm all right jack. Not having a go. just wondering.

I would not give much of a **** to it to be perfectly honest. Whats the point in dwelling in the grey areas of life. Come with me to May , and together lets put the bloody racism row behind us :thumbs:.

If this had been your partner/friend, would you still not give a ****




Jody Dobrowski
Mr Dobrowski, 24, was killed on Clapham Common
The 24-year-old, originally from Gloucestershire, was targeted at the well-known gay "cruising" spot for no other reason than his sexuality.

The attack was shocking in its violence, leaving Jody's body so badly battered he had to be identified by his fingerprints.

Sentencing his killers, the Common Serjeant of London, Judge Brian Barker, said: "He suffered considerably before his death."




If you are strong enough to rise above it then all credit to you.

Here is my stance. Could it happen? Yeah. but their are also people out their who could do the same to YOU for no reason AT ALL [theirs some sick cats out their].

So the way I see it , its safe to assume the likelyhood of it happening is slim , so I see no reason to worry about it.

And should somehting like that ever happen , ill worry about it when it does.

"And should something like that ever happen , ill worry about it when it does. "

So it would be a big deal then?

Course it would. And I know what your getting to. Yes the racism row did happen , and yes it was a big deal , but none of us were directly involved and it was , I dunno , about 4 months ago???

taking it to the extreme.

Yes the holocaust did happen , and yes it was a big deal , but none of us were directly involved and it was , I dunno , about 59 ago???

Yeah but we are talking about a few million jews getting killed versus one indian getting lambasted on British television because she overcooked a chicken.

I did say I was taking it to the extreme :rolleyes:

Hehehehehe. Well enough about the holocaust , BB8 is on in 4 days! :joker::joker::joker:.

Trying to figure this out?? A battle? I think?:puzzled:


Keith Vaz is a politician and will naturally have his own view and opinion on the subject at hand. He has to follow certain rules naturally, but like all politicians, he will have his own mind. Channel 4 has behaved in the way they have chosen to behave. If Keith has a problem, then he shall have to address it in his way. Resignations are little to do with this issue

Keith Vaz may be slippery at times, but once again, it hardly matters at all, in fact, (One Bit) Channel 4 news always takes every issue seriously and questions politicians and enjoys it. Hopefully they can make a mistake and the Newspapers will jump on them. They have to be careful

Shame, but tough:laugh:

Wise:wink: Been there, done it, wore the T-Shirt. Yes, very much known by those

They still contain Racism of some sort and are quite available to all. Watershed or No Watershed

Psychic, are you:rolleyes::rolleyes:

The housemates in question were jesting without Shilpa being present. It is very obvious, that none of these four in question would ever choose to say it in front of Shilpa. Many people talk and spread nasty horrible things about a person behind their backs, not just in CBB either:wink::wink: So many should practice what they are preaching today & before. I would certainly say that it was in the form of a jest-joke and Endemol edited out, so no harm done.

They do as they please and Shilpa should respect that some don't particularly like her

That is debatable

I never watched it personally, but I am aware of it's content

Popular, at the time!

That goes for baddies in soap opera's. Some people believe anything you know:rolleyes:

But that is not always obvious to everyone. Some people assume that it is just the shortened version of Pakistani. Many will assume that it doesn't offend others that much. I remember at the time, on the local and national TV news, when a few Indian people were interviewed on the street, many considered the furore to be NOT so bad. Lot's are broadminded and don't take life too seriously regarding this (P) word either

We all notice that in Rap music and Gay people will also have different views on the "f*g" word too

People do all kinds of things


Those who burn effegys are fanatical people. Some people are like that in England, aren't they:wink: But they don't burn effegys, they just make a small situation into something much bigger. Racism exists, but condoning it is wrong, it shouldn't happen, agreed!! But as there was no racism in CBB5, except a few words and comments which may have been construed to some as having possible racial overtones, nothing more, nothing less. The Limerick issue, is being sorted now. Once again, nothing severe

What Stu decides to have on his Avatar pic is neither-here-nor-there as regards to CBB5 or this topic.

Big Brother exists, whether you like it or not. But hatemongers, well, they exist too and many hate Jade Goody, so you must hate them too, agreed!!!

Nobody can answer that question politically correct. We all protect ourselves you know, just like everyone involved & entering the CBB house. Protection is everything

No:rolleyes:

hmmm:rolleyes:

As above......Some things come first, you know.

I'm feeling sleepy:sleep::sleep:


Trying to trap someone doesn't always work

Sometimes it is necassery to give an extreme example, to place an un-important situation in a shadier light

The Holocaust was terrible!!! so was 9/11, but CBB5 race furore, I don't think it was that bad really

I would certainly say that is true twicely:rolleyes:











nodisharmony :angel:

In a word "context"

South Park for instance has had plenty to say on the subject of race, but contextualised and not just as a spiteful attempt to denigrate and belittle another ..

Thats the difference

Ive been through this argument loads of times , could not really be bothered doing it again , and if you want my point of view look at my previous posts , or alternativly I can sum up the entire race row in threee words...

Get over it...

A production featuring racism as entertainment, even though it may have a "message" in context is one thing.

But you accept it by real people towards real people in the name of your edification and entertainment.



Through a mirror..... and darkly

and yet nonexistant death threats to goody, a window in her house allegedly broken after CBB had you posting here in all shock and horror at the level of "violence" being threatened.

But a vicious murder committed on someone because of their sexuality brings about that response

More proof none that any were needed of your true agenda

as well as being an apologist for racism you make light of homopohobia - even when it results in murder.

What next...gypsies ?
Jews ?

Theres a board on a website called Stormfront, you are right at home there

I think it is time this thread was locked as it is starting to get personal here

My true agenda is clear as crystal.

Endemol are the ones who must be held accountable for bad editing on the past "Celebrity Big Brother 5" show last January.

Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara & Danielle Lloyd were housemates and argued with another housemate who they did not click with & that is it.

Forget everything else...

If Racism was present, then it is the editors job to understand what can happen, (when suspect footage is left in)

Sort yourselves out!!!

Endemol are more lucky than they think!!







nodisharmony :angel:

I'm sick of hearing about the race row!
It's over finished, it wasn't even that bad! :mad:

Thank you.

Even if it wasn't that bad, had it just been accepted and glossed over, people may have thought this kind of bullying is acceptable. I do agree that because it happened to a celeb like Shilpa, where she has a lot of fans, the situation was made a lot more global.

But I don't think it's all about ignorance/culture clashes. I think that because Shilpa's a pretty big film star as well, the HMs who were in the house probably of course didn't realise it. So they didn't exactly understand her behaviour, her actions, why she was guarded - these things I guess come with being a big celeb, and that too a foreign, international one. But that's just a theory.