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Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:41 PM

So that is a yes then?

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
So that is a yes then?
You'll have to read the thread-Red:spin2:

Politicians never give simple yes/no answers.







nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:48 PM

So it is yes.

I have read the thread.

ashleytisdale 27-05-2007 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by mcq
sounds rubbish lol
lool yea sounds rubish. but they had to take out housemates that would start arguments with/ bully other housemates:angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by ashleytisdale
Quote:

Originally posted by mcq
sounds rubbish lol
lool yea sounds rubish. but they had to take out housemates that would start arguments with/ bully other housemates:angel:
Because of what the girls did in the house during Celebrity Big Brother 5. If they hadn't done the things they did we would be discussing this now.

nodisharmony 27-05-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Chrizzle
Cos Ofcom hate BB dont they?
They want it to be axed.

Saying that its just Ofcoms fault. Its the girls and Endemol.

Listen Chris to something very, very true.

Channel 4 make plenty of money from other programmes which get aired all year round.

Endemol own "Deal Or No Deal" & others too. Big Brother is something which has made them a lot of money over the years and sadly, even shows which have made plenty of money in the past

If a show doesn't continue in that direction, it will be axed or sold off.

Selling the show off, might be a possibility for time to come. It all depends on how BB8 works out and also the ratings too. Which is everything.

Endemol can easily get together with some new writers for another show, with another name, which has a similar theme to BB and make money from that.

Anything is possible at this stage.





nodisharmony :angel:

Red Moon 27-05-2007 08:03 PM

I did and I answered it.

No changing the subject.

If the girls hadn't done what they had done we wouldn't be in this postion now.

Either that statement is correct or not correct.

J.C. 27-05-2007 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
I did and I answered it.

No changing the subject.

If the girls hadn't done what they had done we wouldn't be in this postion now.

Either that statement is correct or not correct.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.

Red Moon 27-05-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by J.C.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.
I agree that it could have happened in the past over fight night in Big Brother 5 had it been shown in full, which it wasn't. You have to remember not all the girls said and did wasn't shown too and this time the editing team got it wrong because of the nature of the incident. In both case the police were invovled.

But that is the past and we are talking about the present situation here.

J.C. 27-05-2007 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Quote:

Originally posted by J.C.
I agree with this statement but I also feel that if Endemol had not edited out things like Fight night etc.we would have simply arrived at this new rule scenario earlier. I have suggested for a while that there is a tipping point where BB/ endemol may lose control and I feel they were heading there for a while and reached that point by not stepping in 1 day earlier when they themselves got carried away with the press fever. I don't know for sure but I find it hard to point a finger in just one direction.
I agree that it could have happened in the past over fight night in Big Brother 5 had it been shown in full, which it wasn't. You have to remember not all the girls said and did wasn't shown too and this time the editing team got it wrong because of the nature of the incident. In both case the police were invovled.

But that is the past and we are talking about the present situation here.
True, but I feel they have been pushing the limits for a while now and when they started making bad mistakes like the Nikki return etc I lost confidence in them being able to make good decisions.In truth I'm not sure any group can keep total order in this type of environment without BB stepping in. I mean where would Emma and Victor have ended up if left in the cage together .If it's not racism or violence it will be some other extreme situation....that if left to run, will run out of control.
There is still no doubt that the reason we are here in this position right now is because of girls behavior and the fact that it was edited in the form of car crash tv.
Interesting that it happened in year 7. I believe this is the time when power is supposed to go to one's head. I'm told that this is why presidents and some head teachers are only allowed a maximum 8yr term !!

Red Moon 27-05-2007 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by J.C.
True, but I feel they have been pushing the limits for a while now and when they started making bad mistakes like the Nikki return etc I lost confidence in them being able to make good decisions.In truth I'm not sure any group can keep total order in this type of environment without BB stepping in. I mean where would Emma and Victor have ended up if left in the cage together .If it's not racism or violence it will be some other extreme situation....that if left to run, will run out of control.

There is still no doubt that the reason we are here in this position right now is because of girls behavior and the fact that it was edited in the form of car crash tv.
Interesting that it happened in year 7. I believe this is the time when power is supposed to go to one's head. I'm told that this is why presidents and some head teachers are only allowed a maximum 8yr term !!
We as viewers want more and more from the show, I feel that is why the producers fly closer to the wind with each series. At some point things were going to go to far. In CBB5 they got the mix of house mates so wrong for our entianment. Letting in Gobby was a mistake just like letting Nikki back. It wasn't good for Nikki to be shown the way she was in the final. It wasn't good for Gobby to be back in the house and say the things she did and encourage the others. Like you say you can't ever have complete control over the house mates and mistakes were made.

But like we have both been saying the girls did what they did and here we are for all the faults by the producers. The producers played their part to in the editing, but if the girls hadn't said what they did then things would have been okay. That can't be taken back. It's done and they said what they said. We can only acknowledge what has happened and live with the outcome. We have to remember that people are responsible for what they do and say and can't hide behind other people. It is brave person that admit there mistakes and learn by thems. It is the fools that blame others.

arista 28-05-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
Well they had to do something after Jade and Co. to make sure it didn't happen again. They have to make sure they have done all they can so OFCOM doesn't come down on them again. I just hope it doesn't spoil the show.


I hope they Evict one fast
as a Nasty Example.

Then replace the person.


Endemol should not wait
so bleedin' long before putting in new housemates.

Sam 28-05-2007 11:40 AM

I hope it changes to vote to stay this series

Lil-Lindz 28-05-2007 11:51 AM

Well even if this rule does change, which wouldn't be surprising, i dont think it will change the show that much, sure there will be less arguements :bawling:, but BB cannot control the housemates the occasional outburst is only expected in such a confined environment.
I just hope that these rules are not true, allthough i still expect BB to step in sooner should an arguement arise

Sam 28-05-2007 12:03 PM

Thing is, any argument that happens is going to be over exaggerated and will be seen as bullying now, its ridiculous

Lil-Lindz 28-05-2007 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sam
Thing is, any argument that happens is going to be over exaggerated and will be seen as bullying now, its ridiculous
Exactly, some petty arguement may now be seen as being bullying when in actual fact it is just some stupid squabble

Bells 28-05-2007 12:07 PM

Well, we'll just have to see about that when the series starts - it's best not to assume things now. :angel:

Sam 28-05-2007 12:12 PM

I can imagin headlines in the sun " And so the arguing starts!" and media is going to over exaggerate so I hope not

Conzors 29-05-2007 05:49 PM

Boring BB?
 
im sure his years big brother is not going to be boring but..

it says that there was a no bullying rule...

dont you think this will make it boring?

Arneldo 29-05-2007 05:50 PM

Yes, because everyone wants to see people be bullied on TV :bored::rolleyes:

Conzors 29-05-2007 05:52 PM

no.. i dont mean that..

i mean like everyone going to bully someone..

thats what causes arguments..

i hate seeing people bullied

Glenn. 29-05-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
Yes, because everyone wants to see people be bullied on TV :bored::rolleyes:
Its ok in moderation if its a housemate you dont like:joker::devil:

GhettoSuperstar 29-05-2007 05:53 PM

Hopefully it wont but I do hate this rule

Sunny_01 29-05-2007 05:53 PM

I am hoping it wont be boring but I am glad that they are going to come down hard on bullying. That said arguments will still happen, so will back stabbing so lets just wait and see eh?

the_chosen_one 29-05-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Arneldo
Yes, because everyone wants to see people be bullied on TV :bored::rolleyes:
I think you're right.

Its sad, but I think alot of people like to see that sort of thing.

Id like to see them have fun rather than argue and be nasty to each other, I dont see the point in all that nonsense.

Sam 29-05-2007 05:57 PM

I think everything single thing is going to be over exaggerate by the media to be bad thing this year, one argument and big brothers had it , sad really

Arneldo 29-05-2007 06:01 PM

I'm hoping that the public wont over the top when ever an argument breaks out and accuse every housemate of being a bully.

_B_B_Addict 29-05-2007 06:14 PM

This "Rule" has always been in Big Brother ! I dont see what the big deal is ! If a hm is getting bullied i would like to see the bully been evicted ! Even if i like them or not !

Can Anybody else think of another time in BB when serious bully has happened ?

sol 29-05-2007 06:17 PM

At first I think they all might be a bit cautious, but after a while I think people won't care anymore and arguments will start to happen.

Moses455 29-05-2007 06:17 PM

'Bullying' is a difficult word to define. I think as long as the remarks are not anti semitic or racist, the antagonistic behaviour will be tolerated. I think a good bit of bullying is fine. The housemates know what to expect and being enclosed in such an artificial, suforcating environment is bound to bring out the worst in some of the housemates. The situation is so false though, that it is difficult to claim anyone is actually being 'bullied'.

Ruth*Star 29-05-2007 06:21 PM

The thread title describes BB4. imo

Sam 29-05-2007 06:23 PM

Hha ruth certainly does, i do think they will make the same mistake and make Big Brother 4 boring to be honest i think theyve got a surprise up their sleeve

Ruth*Star 29-05-2007 06:27 PM

This series will be full of twists and turns just like a soap storyline.

Sam 29-05-2007 06:28 PM

Ooh i hope so! That would be great :thumbs:

Ruth*Star 29-05-2007 06:30 PM

Yeah it would be! as long as it does not have so many housemates it will be fine.

Sam 29-05-2007 06:31 PM

22 Housemates was a joke :rolleyes:

Ruth*Star 29-05-2007 06:32 PM

Yeah it was, i think 16-18 is a nice amount of housemates.

Red Moon 29-05-2007 06:38 PM

We are talking about will the show be boring or not.... can we keep it on topic please.

Red

Ruth*Star 29-05-2007 06:44 PM

Sorry Red, Okay, If there is enough twists and exciting housemates, it won't be boring.

Sam 29-05-2007 06:45 PM

22 housemates was the reason it was boring, its better with less.


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