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JerseyWins 27-05-2018 07:10 AM

Ugh SUCH a cute puppy RIP </3 and condolences to Bear & anyone else close to the puppy

Nicky91 27-05-2018 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10008454)
Ugh SUCH a cute puppy RIP </3 and condolences to Bear & anyone else close to the puppy

why condolences to that murderer :oh:

JerseyWins 27-05-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10008455)
why condolences to that murderer :oh:

Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.

Nicky91 27-05-2018 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10008456)
Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.

he shouldn't own pets anyway, we all know how immature and irresponsible he can be ;)

Jake. 27-05-2018 07:50 AM

Why the **** would anybody sell him more pets :umm2:

He’s scum

JerseyWins 27-05-2018 07:54 AM

Tbf Bear should make sure he's responsible enough to take care of a pet before getting one but we don't even know for sure that it was his fault.

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10008456)
Because he lost his puppy that he seemed so happy about and he didn't kill it Nicky! Not intentionally and not even certainly accidentally although he should've been more careful with the puppy either way.

But besides in no other circumstances would you see an owner/loved one get blamed for a pet/relative's death (in a clear non-murder situation) without even any concrete proof to back this up... at least judging by what's in this thread which I just read up on / read nothing else other than this but I'm sure there would be more in here if there was obviously.

Also I shouldn't say no other circumstances because sure there are times a parent getting blamed for bad & irresponsible parenting is fair in some cases...

But this is like a loving parent taking their kid somewhere at too young of an age out of excitement/joy for the kid (maybe not knowing how dangerous it could be), the kid gets sick and dies, a tragic loss, and the parent gets terribly/harshly blamed rather than sympathy. :conf:

This puppy seems like it wasn't healthy enough to begin with and too soon to be sold to someone who probably didn't know what he was doing tbf. If someone just NEEDS to be blamed it should be the person that sold it.

RileyH 27-05-2018 07:58 AM

Imagine defending Bear after he killed an innocent lil pup

Jake. 27-05-2018 07:59 AM

Anyone with a brain cell knows that you shouldn’t be taking puppies outside without their injections first. The fact that he was so desperate to take the pup for its mother early only to parade it around on Instagram for views and likes just shows what kind of person he is. The guy is selfish, and a defenceless animal has paid the price. He honestly makes me feel sick.

JerseyWins 27-05-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RileyH (Post 10008470)
Imagine defending Bear after he killed an innocent lil pup

He didn't kill it though.


Anyway originally I just wanted to give condolences to the puppy & anyone close to the puppy. I hope Bear has learned from his mistakes that may have caused/contributed in the first puppy's early death. </3 What kind of puppy are these 3 he's had anyway? Literally the CUTEST :love:

Livia 27-05-2018 09:03 AM

While he didn't kill the puppy per se, the puppy died as a direct result of his negligence. If he really does have two new puppies, I assume the RSPCA will have been contacted by multiple people. He should at least be banned from keeping animals.

Nicky91 27-05-2018 10:18 AM

Bear honestly is the lowest of the low type of scum


easily worst CBB hm ever :yuk:

Kizzy 27-05-2018 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10003896)
I'd blame the breeders more for letting him have it early tbh. They should have put their foot down. I think unless he intentionally set out to kill the puppy then it's quite cruel to say he killed it. He's a twat but in this case he's a twat that simply didn't know what he was doing.

If you have responsibility for a living thing that cant fend for itself and through your neglect it dies...you killed it, albeit indirectly you are at fault imo.

JerseyWins 27-05-2018 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10008493)
There's literally multiple sources of proof right in front of you so as Amy-Jade said that prove that the blame is at the very least partly his fault. Why the fuck do his fans continue justifying his moronic, childish, selfish, pathetic, deplorably shitty behaviour?

I hope when he inevitably ends up being a vile dumbass again that the puppies eat him alive cause that's all this waste of oxygen deserves. Trash!

It's not justifying his actions where did I justify any of what Bear did with the puppy? It's just not crucifying him for an accident that may/may not have actually been a direct factor in the death... and just feeling sorry for the puppy & owner rather than looking for blame.

But you or no one else knows for sure that this puppy wouldn't have had health issues regardless of Bear running around with his puppy in the garden. It's basically surely to do with the puppy being taken too soon though - but that is more to blame on the seller iwbh regardless of how much Bear may have wanted it right away. He didn't do anything scummy, and 100% not purposely, but he was negligent in playing with his new puppy too soon which is a definite possible cause or contributing factor of this puppy's death... but all I can really say is he should be a lot more careful and responsible in the future with his new ones and RIP to his first pup. </3

Brillopad 27-05-2018 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins (Post 10008945)
It's not justifying his actions where did I justify any of what Bear did with the puppy? It's just not crucifying him for an accident that may/may not have actually been a direct factor in the death... and just feeling sorry for the puppy & owner rather than looking for blame.

But you or no one else knows for sure that this puppy wouldn't have had health issues regardless of Bear running around with his puppy in the garden. It's basically surely to do with the puppy being taken too soon though - but that is more to blame on the seller iwbh regardless of how much Bear may have wanted it right away. He didn't do anything scummy, and 100% not purposely, but he was negligent in playing with his new puppy too soon which is a definite possible cause or contributing factor of this puppy's death... but all I can really say is he should be a lot more careful and responsible in the future with his new ones and RIP to his first pup. </3

NO it isn’t because he bribed the seller to sell the puppy to him early which demonstrates a scant regard for the puppies welfare and, like a selfish child, he was far more preoccupied with having what he wants NOW.

Denver 28-06-2018 11:19 AM

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...hbour-puppies/

He has been reported to the RSPCA

Denver 28-06-2018 11:19 AM

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...4678.jpg?w=960

Epic. 28-06-2018 11:34 AM

So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

Epic. 28-06-2018 11:37 AM

I've never hated someone in the 21st century as much as this hideous abomination.

AnnieK 28-06-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10062962)
So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

Doesn't say they were outside....hopefully they were in the house. Shouldn't have been left at all but if they were left outside then he should be made to give them up as that really is cruel

Epic. 28-06-2018 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10062971)
Doesn't say they were outside....hopefully they were in the house. Shouldn't have been left at all but if they were left outside then he should be made to give them up as that really is cruel

They WERE left outside because the letter says they were "on their own". If they were inside the house they would be in the same place as him and not on their own. And based on how justifiably angry the letter is, it's obvious the poor pups were outside and why else would he be reported to the RSPCA unless it was as asinine as this?

AnnieK 28-06-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10062977)
They WERE left outside because the letter says they were "on their own". If they were inside the house they would be in the same place as him and not on their own. And based on how justifiably angry the letter is, it's obvious the poor pups were outside and why else would he be reported to the RSPCA unless it was as asinine as this?

Wow, that's quite an aggressive response.

I wouldn't have said it was obvious. If he had stayed out all night they would've have been on their own in the house. Dogs do bark inside houses too. Surely if he had been in, the neighbour would also have banged on the door to get him to let them in - I know I would've.

If they were outside, I hope the writer got them water and ensured there was shade.

Kazanne 28-06-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10062962)
So let me get this straight. This scumbag who has not one but TWO defenseless dogs, has decided to leave them outdoors in the MORNING during SUMMER where the weather is scorching hot in Britain when the dogs are liable to die under intense heat? Of course the poor dogs would be howling</3. He really is a brainless irresponsible "ignorant pig" indeed! For the love of God, someone please rescue these poor animals from this monster and leave him upset and fragile at the disasters to pets he's done. Vile.

Where does it say he left them outside in the heat,if it was night,it wouldn't be so hot,plus don't think they were outside either.I know people don't like him ,I'm not keen myself,but none of us know the real story,I am a dog lover and I blame more than him for the death of the first dog ,the seller needs to take some blame for selling it too early, I presume it was Bear himself who took it to the vet ? in the first place ,not the actions of someone who purposely would neglect a pet, he should have followed vets instructions,so although he was at best naïve ,I don't think he would have purposely caused it pain,as for the other two,dogs shouldn't be left alone for long periods of time, but they do look quite healthy and for all we know it could just be some disgruntled neighbour . I don't like him but think this 'Sun' story has been fabricated as always.

Amy Jade 28-06-2018 12:29 PM

No true animal lover would support this man.

Kazanne 28-06-2018 12:34 PM

No ones supporting him,just stating some exaggerations in that article in the rag mag papers reporting !!! I don't like the bloke but that doesn't mean I have to believe everything I read about him . I am sure the rag mag will update us on his court case,if there is one.Since when has the scummy Sun been a bastion of truth.No self respecting person would give it the time of day.

LukeB 28-06-2018 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10063012)
No true animal lover would support this man.

This

Something always happens when he has a pet so that is saying something.

LukeB 28-06-2018 12:39 PM

Hopefully he is banned from having pets for life, he obviously can’t look after them

Beso 28-06-2018 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Epic. (Post 10008493)
There's literally multiple sources of proof right in front of you so as Amy-Jade said that prove that the blame is at the very least partly his fault. Why the fuck do his fans continue justifying his moronic, childish, selfish, pathetic, deplorably shitty behaviour?

I hope when he inevitably ends up being a vile dumbass again that the puppies eat him alive cause that's all this waste of oxygen deserves. Trash!

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Niamh. 28-06-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063142)
You couldn't write it could you Parmy ? I am certainly no fan of his but equally I am no fan of the 'Sun'

:suspect: I'm pretty sure I've heard you give pretty strong opinions on people who've treated animals badly tbf Kaz

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10063145)
:suspect: I'm pretty sure I've heard you give pretty strong opinions on people who've treated animals badly tbf Kaz

I have as I am a dog lover,but from reading it it looks like the breeder sold it too early,Bear obviously took it to a vet,the dog got an infection from some drip it had and Bear didn't follow the instructions to the letter on how to care for it post op. he's a knob and a bit thick but I don't think he intentionally thought 'Oh I will kill this pup' I have never liked the bloke as previous BB posts will prove,but as I have said,the 'Sun' is a trash mag,so I take what it says with a pinch of salt,as you know I hate animal abuse ,and because I don't think he MEANT to be cruel does not mean I am a fan or like him.

Niamh. 28-06-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063157)
I have as I am a dog lover,but from reading it it looks like the breeder sold it too early,Bear obviously took it to a vet,the dog got an infection from some drip it had and Bear didn't follow the instructions to the letter on how to care for it post op. he's a knob and a bit thick but I don't think he intentionally thought 'Oh I will kill this pup' I have never liked the bloke as previous BB posts will prove,but as I have said,the 'Sun' is a trash mag,so I take what it says with a pinch of salt,as you know I hate animal abuse ,and because I don't think he MEANT to be cruel does not mean I am a fan or like him.

That doesn't really explain why you agree with parmnions post though because you've done the same in other threads regarding animal cruelty

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10063161)
That doesn't really explain why you agree with parmnions post though because you've done the same in other threads regarding animal cruelty

So I am not allowed to agree with parmy now ? right I get it .I am sure some people will 'get' what I mean.

Niamh. 28-06-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063162)
So I am not allowed to agree with parmy now ? right I get it .I am sure some people will 'get' what I mean.

Well that was some leap there :laugh: Nice subject change though

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10063164)
Well that was some leap there :laugh: Nice subject change though

Why the cross examination ? I have said why I think the source is dodgy and that he was a knob, Intentionally cruel people should be wiped out from the face of the earth.,I am not convinced this was intentional,so does that answer your question.I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

Beso 28-06-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063142)
You couldn't write it could you Parmy ? I am certainly no fan of his but equally I am no fan of the 'Sun'

Me either, to bloody hot imo.

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10063172)
Me either, to bloody hot imo.

:laugh::laugh: You're sharp today,I hate it too .:wavey:

Niamh. 28-06-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063169)
Why the cross examination ? I have said why I think the source is dodgy and that he was a knob, Intentionally cruel people should be wiped out from the face of the earth.,I am not convinced this was intentional,so does that answer your question.I'm not sure why you don't understand that.

Because the post you agreed with was saying that wishing harm on a human doesn't make that poster sound any better which is something I've seen you do before, it's irrelevant whether your opinion on this story is different, you have wished harm on a human before is all I was saying..........

Beso 28-06-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10063175)
:laugh::laugh: You're sharp today,I hate it too .:wavey:

See ya when bb comes on kaz..take care.:wavey:

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10063177)
Because the post you agreed with was saying that wishing harm on a human doesn't make that poster sound any better which is something I've seen you do before, it's irrelevant whether your opinion on this story is different, you have wished harm on a human before is all I was saying..........

Of course I have when something cruel is intentional to see the animal in pain and die I wish any animal abuser harm, Its like when some people think getting your dog fat is cruel,it is, but its not done to inflict pain intentionally,so I don't wish harm on them.

Kazanne 28-06-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10063193)
See ya when bb comes on kaz..take care.:wavey:

Ok Parmy, don't you stay away too long:wavey:

Maru 28-06-2018 05:40 PM

Very disconcerting, the neighbor's letter, because if he true then he it appears he doesn't understand the responsibility he took on with these dogs. Unfortunately, his take on animal ownership is common...


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