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Marsh. 08-06-2018 01:43 AM

And FYI, "other people's business" would be private chats in... private.

You have a discussion on an open public forum and we're all entitled to join in.

Don't like it? Take it somewhere more appropriate.

jet 08-06-2018 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10031996)
Wait... your issue is that people don't get infracted enough.

Oh, no wait... the mods don't get infracted enough... because your friends are getting infracted for valid reasons, and you don't like it.

But then you're using infractions as a reason to then insult and belittle members you don't like.

I don't think you quite know where you stand on this issue, nor how to get yourself out of this tangled mess of hypocrisy.

Let me help you here hon with your confusion...sometimes people get infracted who shouldn't, and some people who deserve to be don't, except for you. Got it?

Marsh. 08-06-2018 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 10031998)
Let me help you here hon with your confusion...sometimes people get infracted who shouldn't, and some people who deserve to be don't, except for you. Got it?

Yes, so basically like I said. You want more infractions for the people you don't like, and none for the people you do.

Like a spoilt hypocritical child.

jet 08-06-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10031997)
And FYI, "other people's business" would be private chats in... private.

You have a discussion on an open public forum and we're all entitled to join in.

Don't like it? Take it somewhere more appropriate.

Oh you'll always join in...any chance of a bait and you're there like a bad smell.

Marsh. 08-06-2018 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 10032000)
Oh you'll always join in...any chance of a bait and you're there like a bad smell.

Any chance of bullsh*t and I'll be there pointing at it and calling it bullsh*t, certainly.

jet 08-06-2018 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10031999)
Yes, so basically like I said. You want more infractions for the people you don't like, and none for the people you do.

Like a spoilt hypocritical child.

No, infractions are fine for those that deserve infractions, whether I like them or not. Your opinion of my though processes means nothing to me, so maybe you should give your little typing fingers a rest trying to bother me, it doesn't work in the least. :laugh:

Marsh. 08-06-2018 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 10032002)
No, infractions are fine for those that deserve infractions, whether I like them or not. Your opinion of my though processes means nothing to me, so maybe you should give your little typing fingers a rest trying to bother me, it doesn't work in the least. :laugh:

You keep saying that... yet keep replying.

Just as you keep to-ing and fro-ing with your stance on infractions.

Maybe settle on an opinion before posting one. :thumbs:

Marsh. 08-06-2018 02:03 AM

Danielle has grown on me, but she'll never beat Our Sal.

Vicky. 08-06-2018 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10031982)
Yet they don't?

Rarely, as its not warranted much of the time.

Vicky. 08-06-2018 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 10031998)
Let me help you here hon with your confusion...sometimes people get infracted who shouldn't, and some people who deserve to be don't, except for you. Got it?

I may be reading this post wrong as it can be read 2 ways that I can see, but marsh probably has more infractions than most other members put together and is regularly on long bans.

Hope you don't mind me saying this marsh, but I get quite sick of the claims that only one 'side' are ever punished and such.

I agree that sometimes people get infractions that shouldn't, and we do overturn infractions sometimes, many members can confirm that. However, the correct way to go about getting them reversed is to send a calm email to a member of staff explaining why it was wrong in your opinion..admin is better, as mods do not generally overturn each others decisions unless its clearly not deserved at all..if you PM a mod what will happen usually is a discussion will be opened up in the infraction thread (if there is not already a discussion about it, which there sometimes is) and the person who gave the infraction will explain why they did and so on. A group of people continually going on on the forum about how someone elses infraction should be overturned though? Comes across quite badly, seems in a way like you (royal you) are trying to force a reversal.. and is not going to change anyones mind.

bots 08-06-2018 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10032115)
I may be reading this post wrong as it can be read 2 ways that I can see, but marsh probably has more infractions than most other members put together and is regularly on long bans.

Hope you don't mind me saying this marsh, but I get quite sick of the claims that only one 'side' are ever punished and such.

I agree that sometimes people get infractions that shouldn't, and we do overturn infractions sometimes, many members can confirm that. However, the correct way to go about getting them reversed is to send a calm email to a member of staff explaining why it was wrong in your opinion..admin is better, as mods do not generally overturn each others decisions unless its clearly not deserved at all..if you PM a mod what will happen usually is a discussion will be opened up in the infraction thread (if there is not already a discussion about it, which there sometimes is) and the person who gave the infraction will explain why they did and so on. A group of people continually going on on the forum about how someone elses infraction should be overturned though? Comes across quite badly, seems in a way like you (royal you) are trying to force a reversal.. and is not going to change anyones mind.

Vicky, I am not getting at you, or any other mod for that matter, but the transparently obvious unequal treatment is something that has been clear to see for a while. Maybe the forum admin want it that way ... it seems they are happy with the situation as nothing has been done in months and I'm sorry, I don't swallow the too busy response as it's insulting to our intelligence.

Kazanne 08-06-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10032143)
Vicky, I am not getting at you, or any other mod for that matter, but the transparently obvious unequal treatment is something that has been clear to see for a while. Maybe the forum admin want it that way ... it seems they are happy with the situation as nothing has been done in months and I'm sorry, I don't swallow the too busy response as it's insulting to our intelligence.

I am glad you and Jet have posted about this BOTS as I am sure some on here think it's only one or two people who are more verbal , that are irked with this,there is actually a fair few members who are not happy with certain things, just because they are quiet doesn't mean they aren't pissed off with it all, surely they can't ALL be wrong.

Vicky. 08-06-2018 09:18 AM

OK, whatever you say. I am done with this conversation now anyway. Some other mod may pick it up, or admin. But its just going to be a repeat of the many threads before and I don't have the energy for it.

Edit. That came across quite snippy reading it back, I didn't mean it that way, but I am just sick of the same conversations over and over D:

Ashley. 08-06-2018 09:26 AM

Well I love Daniel-X

T* 08-06-2018 10:00 AM

why do yall have to ruin everything.
WE LOVE DAN X!

bots 08-06-2018 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10032150)
OK, whatever you say. I am done with this conversation now anyway. Some other mod may pick it up, or admin. But its just going to be a repeat of the many threads before and I don't have the energy for it.

Edit. That came across quite snippy reading it back, I didn't mean it that way, but I am just sick of the same conversations over and over D:

No offense taken

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Niamh. 08-06-2018 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10032150)
OK, whatever you say. I am done with this conversation now anyway. Some other mod may pick it up, or admin. But its just going to be a repeat of the many threads before and I don't have the energy for it.

Edit. That came across quite snippy reading it back, I didn't mean it that way, but I am just sick of the same conversations over and over D:

Nah

Jack_ 08-06-2018 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10032173)
Nah

:joker:

Kazanne 08-06-2018 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10032172)

:joker::joker: that lazy dog :laugh:

Jack_ 08-06-2018 10:17 AM

What about we say I'm the best member, make me admin and I'll let you do whatever you like

How's that for a deal?

Crimson Dynamo 08-06-2018 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10032177)
What about we say I'm the best member, make me admin and I'll let you do whatever you like

How's that for a deal?

What is your policy regarding a perma for Marsh please?


:fc:

Jack_ 08-06-2018 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10032180)
What is your policy regarding a perma for Marsh please?


:fc:

No permas, no bans, no infractions

And most importantly NO report button

Crimson Dynamo 08-06-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10032181)
No permas, no bans, no infractions

And most importantly NO report button

..wait...you mean...like....(shudder)..

REAL LIFE??

D:

Jack_ 08-06-2018 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10032183)
..wait...you mean...like....(shudder)..

REAL LIFE??

D:

A frightening prospect isn't it, adults having to hash things out instead of running off to mods about things on a Big Brother forum

Crimson Dynamo 08-06-2018 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10032185)
A frightening prospect isn't it, adults having to hash things out instead of running off to mods about things on a Big Brother forum

To be fair i see it the other way around

Mods running to close threads the minute an argument starts like the forum will explode if we have a few rows with each other and or mods and admin never admitting faults just justifying why they did things time and again with no solutions or change suggested

:think:

(and no regular really sees this as a BB forum now)


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Kizzy 08-06-2018 11:06 AM

#waitwot

and get infracted for arguing in threads?... no ta.

The report button is there to make mods aware of flashpoints as they aren't on every thread 24/7

why should anyone put up with abuse or be expected to argue the toss with some numpty?... no ta.

Jack_ 08-06-2018 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10032188)
To be fair i see it the other way around

Mods running to close threads the minute an argument starts like the forum will explode if we have a few rows with each other and or mods and admin never admitting faults just justifying why they did things time and again with no solutions or change suggested

:think:

(and no regular really sees this as a BB forum now)


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Half of that comes with members pissing their pants and reporting anyone they disagree with or dislike though, I mean didn't Vicky say that loads of people were reporting posts in the michael21 thread? And that was part of why it was closed (unless I misunderstood)

Maybe getting rid of the report button is the solution, then the mods don't have to put up with the endless complaints and everyone else is forced to tackle people head on or move on with their day and realise It's Just The Internet

Jack_ 08-06-2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10032189)
#waitwot

and get infracted for arguing in threads?... no ta.

The report button is there to make mods aware of flashpoints as they aren't on every thread 24/7

why should anyone put up with abuse or be expected to argue the toss with some numpty?... no ta.

Try reading my post again, I said no infractions

You don't have to put up with it, either put them straight or exit the thread - it's the internet, not real life

Josy 08-06-2018 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jet (Post 10031884)
Well, threads asking is there a better forum member than Daniel X could also invite negativity like 'of course there is, he/she is a s*** member, what are you on about' (not that I know anything about Daniel at all so that is no reflection on that poster)...
So were the posters who made negative remarks about Michael infracted ...and why was Kirk infracted when it is said it is understood his thread wasn't meant in a bad way? If you wouldn't have infracted him Vicky, then why WAS he infracted? It all sounds dodgy to me.
This forum is a minefield of confusion about what is and isn't allowed and tolerated depending on the mod online at the time, it's currently an uncomfortable place to navigate re the rules which treat us a bit like like children and feels stifling to post on when one mod will do one thing and another do something else - which is why I don't bother anymore and many long time posters are losing their love for this place.

I'm getting really sick of this and this isn't just aimed at you jet this is just the post I chose to quote, its aimed members that are continually entering threads lately in a pack manner and CONSTANTLY picking at other members and/or questioning forum staff in threads, I may not be posting much but i've been seeing this far too much lately and it stops now!

Other members infractions bans etc ARE NO ONE ELSES BUSINESS, this also means you dont post in threads asking for them to be explained, attempting to kick up drama due to staff actions, blatantly bait other forum members, abuse the report system by using to both report and insult members you have a problem with at the same time... I could go on n on.

IF you have a genuine query about any staff actions that relates to you personally then contact a mod or admin and IF we think its something that needs discussed further we will reply.

I wont be posting any more warnings about this sort of behaviour so just a heads up right now that heavy infractions will be given out if this continues from here on in.

Josy 08-06-2018 11:33 AM

Oh and adding to that this us vs them attitude that certain people have going on is also nipped in the butt from now, i'm not having it :idc:

Crimson Dynamo 08-06-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10032190)
Half of that comes with members pissing their pants and reporting anyone they disagree with or dislike though, I mean didn't Vicky say that loads of people were reporting posts in the michael21 thread? And that was part of why it was closed (unless I misunderstood)

Maybe getting rid of the report button is the solution, then the mods don't have to put up with the endless complaints and everyone else is forced to tackle people head on or move on with their day and realise It's Just The Internet

good points

Crimson Dynamo 08-06-2018 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10032200)
Oh and adding to that this us vs them attitude that certain people have going on is also nipped in the butt from now, i'm not having it :idc:

bud

Marsh. 08-06-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10032115)
I may be reading this post wrong as it can be read 2 ways that I can see, but marsh probably has more infractions than most other members put together and is regularly on long bans.

Hope you don't mind me saying this marsh, but I get quite sick of the claims that only one 'side' are ever punished and such.

I agree that sometimes people get infractions that shouldn't, and we do overturn infractions sometimes, many members can confirm that. However, the correct way to go about getting them reversed is to send a calm email to a member of staff explaining why it was wrong in your opinion..admin is better, as mods do not generally overturn each others decisions unless its clearly not deserved at all..if you PM a mod what will happen usually is a discussion will be opened up in the infraction thread (if there is not already a discussion about it, which there sometimes is) and the person who gave the infraction will explain why they did and so on. A group of people continually going on on the forum about how someone elses infraction should be overturned though? Comes across quite badly, seems in a way like you (royal you) are trying to force a reversal.. and is not going to change anyones mind.

No problem at all. You're right.

Nicky91 08-06-2018 12:29 PM

maybe it's for the better if this thread is closed

Marsh. 08-06-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10032143)
Vicky, I am not getting at you, or any other mod for that matter, but the transparently obvious unequal treatment is something that has been clear to see for a while. Maybe the forum admin want it that way ... it seems they are happy with the situation as nothing has been done in months and I'm sorry, I don't swallow the too busy response as it's insulting to our intelligence.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10032147)
I am glad you and Jet have posted about this BOTS as I am sure some on here think it's only one or two people who are more verbal , that are irked with this,there is actually a fair few members who are not happy with certain things, just because they are quiet doesn't mean they aren't pissed off with it all, surely they can't ALL be wrong.

What unequal treatment?

Be more specific?

Do you mean if two members have an argument, one is infracted and the other is not?

How would you possibly know one way or the other?

Do you have any examples?

Nicky91 08-06-2018 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10032231)
What unequal treatment?

Be more specific?

Do you mean if two members have an argument, one is infracted and the other is not?

How would you possibly know one way or the other?

Do you have any examples?

i think i can answer this one, probably the one who is the most against the rules gets infracted then


i think but i'm not sure

Cal. 08-06-2018 12:33 PM

Not Daniel-X sparking a 5 page debate

Nicky91 08-06-2018 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cal. (Post 10032235)
Not Daniel-X sparking a 5 page debate

a debate in the chat and games section :eek:

Cal. 08-06-2018 12:35 PM

Not this being moved to Serious Debates & News?

Niamh. 08-06-2018 12:35 PM

Well I think Daniel X is a marvelous member personally


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