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user104658 10-12-2020 12:27 PM

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The reshade doesn't affect performance, in any way. Am I over-reacting? It's comparatively so ugly and I can't figure out why they would do this :think:

ALSO, the game has no anti-aliasing options by default, I had to force it in nVidia Control Panel. Best guess is that this is because AA doesn't play well with HDR so they've removed the option entirely... expecting the status quo to be 4k+HDR when no one actually has the graphics horsepower to run that.

I reiterate what I said earlier; they've made and released a game that will run well and look amazing on next-gen consoles and 2021-and-beyond gaming PC's (RTX30-series+) and released it for the current gen. I think it might tank reviews tbqfh, most people are nowhere near geeky & patient enough to go through all of this optimising.

On the bright side, I've not had this much fun tweaking a game to run well since Fallout 4 :joker:. At some point I should get on with playing the game...

Tom4784 10-12-2020 01:09 PM

I've heard the game is basically broken on base consoles but it's not too bad beyond bugs on the Pro and such. I'm very tempted, almost bought it last night on a whim but I shall hold off for the moment.

user104658 10-12-2020 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10967018)
I've heard the game is basically broken on base consoles but it's not too bad beyond bugs on the Pro and such. I'm very tempted, almost bought it last night on a whim but I shall hold off for the moment.

I think the framerate drops in combat combined with it being first-person-shooting would make it extremely difficult to play on base console... the enemies thus far have been a bit bullet-spongey if you can't hit headshots combat would be tedious (not in a bad way necessarily, they are wearing padding/body armour so it's not unrealistic that headshots do a lot more damage than centre mass)

user104658 10-12-2020 01:55 PM

To be fair in 3 hours of gameplay I've not had a HUGE number of bugs/glitches and they were both pretty funny. There was the sitting fella above, and I also had a corpse start breakdancing, but that's it so far. It needs some patching but it's not mammoths falling from the sky or anything.

Brother Leon 10-12-2020 07:00 PM

Mine arrived. Won’t be able to play it until the morning though. Which life path has everyone chosen?

I’m already torn on the first game choice :laugh:

Scarlett. 10-12-2020 09:11 PM

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user104658 10-12-2020 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Scarlett. (Post 10967211)

How's it running on the PS5?

I'm still tweakin' here, I'm determined to get 1440p 60 :joker:

Scarlett. 10-12-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10967213)
How's it running on the PS5?

I'm still tweakin' here, I'm determined to get 1440p 60 :joker:

It's not too bad, can't wait for the proper PS5 version though xD

user104658 10-12-2020 11:52 PM

In all honesty I think as great as the game is so far the launch is a disaster... I stand by what I said above; they've made a next gen game and pushed it out on old hardware. They should have delayed for a full year back in April and just made it a next gen title.

I've given up on getting it to run at 1440p even on low settings... To do it with all the settings turned up, it clearly needs an RTX3080. It's an amazing looking game even at 1080p, and runs well at that res, but like I said earlier, stepping back down to 1080p sort of feels like going back a couple of years. It's also not my monitor's native res so it makes text look a little fuzzy. I'm actually considering hooking up my old 1080p monitor :joker:.

user104658 11-12-2020 10:09 AM

I threw a load of bloom at it and now it's PROPER cyberpunk. Neon everywhere. Bloooooom :laugh:

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Scarlett. 11-12-2020 11:45 AM

Yeah making it a multigen game probably hurt it quite a bit

Ramsay 11-12-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10967185)
Mine arrived. Won’t be able to play it until the morning though. Which life path has everyone chosen?

I’m already torn on the first game choice :laugh:

Nomad bby

Scarlett. 11-12-2020 12:27 PM

I chose Nomad too xD

user104658 11-12-2020 12:42 PM

I too went Nomad :think:. I went back and forth between the other two and then as a total wildcard chose Nomad at the last second. However, I have just realised...

https://i.imgur.com/WOBfBq1.png

My guy looks like ****ing RYLAN! I can't unsee it!

user104658 11-12-2020 12:56 PM

Anyone encountered these two sadsacks yet? :laugh:

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Ramsay 11-12-2020 12:59 PM

Aw that was so good hahah

user104658 11-12-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10967508)
Aw that was so good hahah

Did you notice that the guy playing guitar was actually playing? :omgno: that's a borderline needless level of detail right there :joker:

Tom4784 11-12-2020 02:55 PM

I've done the first hour, and rescued the girl in the tub. It's interesting so far. I've not had any issues on my PS4 pro so far. I went for the Corpo background.

user104658 11-12-2020 03:23 PM

I've played about 4 hours I'd say (steam says 7 but I swear a full 3 hours was spent tweaking the damn thing :joker: ) and I have to admit I was worried at first BUT the last three hours or so have been an absolute blast. I've not even gone on the first proper mission after the intro yet, just been ****ing around doing side missions and bounties... but even those FEEL like actual missions. I also did one of the "psycho" missions where the enemy is heavily tech augmented and it was awesome, they were zipping around the place so fast and I couldn't hit them with a gun, so it ended up being a katana fight. I strongly feel that it's going to be excellent. At this point my only gripes are;

- Bugs. Most are funny/not a problem (see below for example) but I did have one game breaking bug. Not hugely so - just a stuck quest and thankfully all you have to do to fix it is quicksave and reload the save - but still.

Car spawn bug:
Spoiler:

https://i.imgur.com/eIAWFVZ.jpg

The damn thing spawned like this! And there's nothing you can do to right it - you just have to run out of range and summon it again :think:


- It feels poorly optimised. The graphics are amazing, yes, and for their full potential I can see why it needs hefty hardware HOWEVER it's not so far beyond recent titles that it explains the performance issues. That said, after a couple of hours I completely stopped noticing that I'm playing at 1080p (it's not that long ago that all games were, after all) and it was definitely worth the trade off for 60fps. But yeah - I feel like it should have better framerates for the visuals I'm seeing, I don't get why it's struggling so much, or why it totally flatlines on OG consoles. This gripe is nothing to do with the quality of the game of course and it's a "temporary" problem - in a couple of years people will have forgotten that it was ever hard to run.

- 3rd is a minor PC gripe... cars are bordering on impossible to drive with keyboard & mouse :fist:. Luckily controls hotswitch to whichever you press... so I have a controller sat next to the keyboard that's purely for driving :joker:

I'd struggle with this if I was a reviewer I think. On the one hand the game itself, taken in isolation, e.g. if you were playing it on a bleeding-edge PC with ray tracing, is genuinely brilliant, both gameplay and how it looks. On the other hand the technical problems are beyond anything we've seen in recent years and a lot of people (baseline console owners and PC players with anything less than a GTX1080) are going to have found themselves very dissapointed yesterday morning.

They should have been honest and just said that despite their best efforts, the game simply doesn't work on the baseline consoles.

Brother Leon 11-12-2020 04:56 PM

About to tuck in.

I’m mosted tempted by Nomad too. Being new to Night City myself and all. Will feel
Abit weird seeing some Drifter type fella going around using all this cyber and futuristic gear though haha.

Might have to be blades and melee for realism purposes :hee:

user104658 11-12-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10967650)
About to tuck in.

I’m mosted tempted by Nomad too. Being new to Night City myself and all. Will feel
Abit weird seeing some Drifter type fella going around using all this cyber and futuristic gear though haha.

Might have to be blades and melee for realism purposes :hee:

It's not really like that to be fair (from what I know of them so far anyway) - the nomads aren't primitive or tribal or anything, they're essentially just people who don't live in the city... Having sort of rejected the whole "corporate lifestyle" and preferring to live free (but poor) outside the city limits. As far as I understand it that is. I'm basically still at the beginning because I've just been driving around and doing side quests and bounties and stuff. I'm sure there's plenty of lore to come throughout the game!

However I thoroughly recommend giving blades a go because the most fun I've had in the game thus far was hunting down a bounty in his night club, which I went through at speed using just a katana. It was so brutal... heads and limbs everywhere [emoji23]. And that's without any of the melee perks or upgrades yet, I think it'll be a blast with augments.

Scarlett. 12-12-2020 01:18 AM


arista 12-12-2020 12:36 PM

A Journalist had a Seizure
because of the light flickering


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Scarlett. 12-12-2020 04:43 PM

They've patch that now, arista

The Slim Reaper 14-12-2020 11:40 AM

Is it worth a purchase? Will there be multi-player for Arista and I to indulge in?

user104658 14-12-2020 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10968992)
Is it worth a purchase? Will there be multi-player for Arista and I to indulge in?

There's no multiplayer, whether it's worth a purchase is a multi-layered answer...

1) It is a fantastic game so if you have a recent gaming PC, PS5 or Series X - YES absolutely.

2) If you have an Xbone X or a PS4-Pro and don't mind framerate drops in a game that has first person shooting mechanics for combat, then still yes (though I consider this sociopathy)

3) If you have an OG PS4 or Xbox One, or a PC with anything less than a recent i7 and a GTX1080ti, I'd have to say no. It has (massive) optimisation issues at present and just isn't functional sadly. Might improve with patches... probs not much... I think they'll just rely on the fact that it'll run like a dream on up to date PC's and next-gen consoles once they optimise the "proper" next gen version.


[edit to add]

I just remember that you had or have a PS5? If you're interested or not gasping to play it, I would advise waiting for the "real" PS5 version which is likely to be Q1 2021, almost certainly worth holding out for the "best" experience unless you're itching for it. I think it's a free upgrade anyway... but if you can wait, might as well start out with the better version.

I'm well into it now but lowkey wish I had waited until I have a RTX3080 because from what I've seen, it looks stunning with Ray Tracing.

The Slim Reaper 14-12-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10968997)
There's no multiplayer, whether it's worth a purchase is a multi-layered answer...

1) It is a fantastic game so if you have a recent gaming PC, PS5 or Series X - YES absolutely.

2) If you have an Xbone X or a PS4-Pro and don't mind framerate drops in a game that has first person shooting mechanics for combat, then still yes (though I consider this sociopathy)

3) If you have an OG PS4 or Xbox One, or a PC with anything less than a recent i7 and a GTX1080ti, I'd have to say no. It has (massive) optimisation issues at present and just isn't functional sadly. Might improve with patches... probs not much... I think they'll just rely on the fact that it'll run like a dream on up to date PC's and next-gen consoles once they optimise the "proper" next gen version.


[edit to add]

I just remember that you had or have a PS5? If you're interested or not gasping to play it, I would advise waiting for the "real" PS5 version which is likely to be Q1 2021, almost certainly worth holding out for the "best" experience unless you're itching for it. I think it's a free upgrade anyway... but if you can wait, might as well start out with the better version.

I'm well into it now but lowkey wish I had waited until I have a RTX3080 because from what I've seen, it looks stunning with Ray Tracing.

Thanks for the detailed response.

Yeah, I have my new/new PS5 now, happily working as intended.

It's pretty cheap at the moment on PS Store (about £40ish), so I don't want to get hit with a £70 PS5 release price. I might just get it and leave it in the library until the upgrade arrives.

The Slim Reaper 14-12-2020 11:59 AM

it's first person? Is there a 3rd person option at all?

user104658 14-12-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10969010)
it's first person? Is there a 3rd person option at all?

The only 3rd person elements are driving. Bizarrely, there's a (very*) detailed character customization at the beginning and a tonne of clothing/armor options but the only time you actually see your guy is on the inventory screen and if you're riding a motorbike :think:.

* You can literally choose whether or not to have foreskin


[edit] Actually now that I say that, combined with above, I've just realised that you'll be able to see yourself all over the place with ray-traced reflections :omgno:. In puddles, metal surfaces, car windows... A future-proof penis option.

The Slim Reaper 14-12-2020 12:51 PM

I hate first person games as a rule (with or without foreskin :laugh:), but dishonoured is one of my favourite series. Think I'll leave it for a bit and see what happens.

user104658 14-12-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10969048)
I hate first person games as a rule (with or without foreskin :laugh:), but dishonoured is one of my favourite series. Think I'll leave it for a bit and see what happens.

It's not my favourite genre in general, I tend to much prefer 3rd person, but it's definitely an RPG not a Shooter - it plays like a more refined/tighter/more story driven Fallout or Elder Scrolls basically. But yeah like I said, if you're not itching to play I would possibly not only wait for PS5 version, but maybe even an inevitable GOTY version with bugs ironed out and inevitable DLC... it's a great game but the "definitive" version of it is most likely a year+ away.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 14-12-2020 03:12 PM

Does anybody know what the request backup quickhack even does? I assumed it turned an enemy friendly and made them fight for you bc that’s what the description sounds like but when you use it in combat nothing happens??

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 14-12-2020 03:13 PM

I’m playing on base ps4 and haven’t encountered that many issues so far

It’s crashed once and the graphics are a bit messy (especially when you use a computer monitor in the game - it looks horrible) but other than that it’s been fine

Fetch The Bolt Cutters 14-12-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10969048)
dishonoured is one of my favourite series.


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Stu 14-12-2020 10:40 PM

Heh, so in a weird twist of events a local retailer got a dozen Series S in stock. The sudden realisation that I've never seen a game in 4K and never need to coupled with the fact that I'm a-OK with Game Pass/no physical media and the - well - insanely low cost price of the unit meant I snapped it up completely impromptu.

Seriously impressive bit of kit. It's perfect for what I want in a game console for someone who just dips in obsessively for a few weeks then goes half a year without buying a new title. Instant on, instant off. Got my OG Saints Row, Crackdown, Oblivion etc all upscaled.

I digress, though. Took Cyberpunk for a ride on it.

This is the weirdest ****ing game I've ever played from a technical standpoint. Took ages to get to free roaming but as soon as I did, I wasn't quite sure what was happening.

Confident enough in the Series S hardware - and having seen the Digital Foundry videos - that what I'm running is on par with a mid-high range gaming PC. It's so...weird though.

One minute it looks like the most ambitious, ballsy game world I've ever seen. The next it looks like something I'm not meant to be playing yet. It makes it oddly fun. It goes from wow to ugly faster than any game I've ever seen.

Oh well. 10/10 for fun so far. The corpo floating taxi to the club really felt proper like "There's never been a game like this before, this is new gen."

Then I punched a dude selling noodles in the jaw and his pelvis vibrated into the floor and made the road flicker.

Fun!

Scarlett. 14-12-2020 11:06 PM

It looks great on the PS5, generally. I hear the Xbox-S is a little less powerful than the PS5 or Series X, I wonder how different it looks? That being said, there isnt a real next gen update yet, that comes next year

user104658 15-12-2020 12:03 AM

There's allegedly a large patch dropping in early Jan that should increase performance on the OG consoles and fix a lot of bugs/glitches. I haven't encountered any thing too glaring though still. The biggest was the dead guy spinning round the room (the guy you kill just before getting the girl out of the tub on the very first mission) but nothing like that has happened since and it was right at the beginning. And also, funny.

I did get the "talk to viktor" bug which is technically game breaking but thankfully I clocked it as a bug and looked up the fix straight away. Basically, the game gets stuck on the "talk to viktor" quest checkbox permanently. The fix is simple, you just quicksave and reload, and it will flag as complete and you carry on... The issue is, all of the various little side quests open up at this point, and one of the dialogue options is to pay off the surgery debt. So apparently, a lot of people went off I to the world, thinking you had to grind side quests until you could afford to pay him... Which isn't that hard... You can do it in maybe an hour or two... Except that when you go back to pay him, it doesn't fix the bug, and the dave/reload method no longer fixes it. So you have to reload the earlier save and lose anything you did when off earning the money to pay him. And if you've saved over that save... You have to restart. Not a huge issue I guess as its so close to the beginning, but yeah... I'm glad I sussed it as a bug and googled :joker:.

Brother Leon 15-12-2020 02:37 AM

Game only crashed once right at the very beginning. Hasn’t since.

Only annoying bug for me is it takes a while to change to Third Person when driving. The graphics are a disappointment for sure, but I’m really enjoying it and there’s enough to keep me entertained, I haven’t even got that far into the story because I just keep doing side gigs, weapon hunting(found a Free Mantis blades and the gun that speaks to you? :laugh: ) along with crime preventions etc.

Definitely going to start focusing more on the perks and cyberware now and my V should be a stud.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10969353)
There's allegedly a large patch dropping in early Jan that should increase performance on the OG consoles and fix a lot of bugs/glitches. I haven't encountered any thing too glaring though still. The biggest was the dead guy spinning round the room (the guy you kill just before getting the girl out of the tub on the very first mission) but nothing like that has happened since and it was right at the beginning. And also, funny.

I did get the "talk to viktor" bug which is technically game breaking but thankfully I clocked it as a bug and looked up the fix straight away. Basically, the game gets stuck on the "talk to viktor" quest checkbox permanently. The fix is simple, you just quicksave and reload, and it will flag as complete and you carry on... The issue is, all of the various little side quests open up at this point, and one of the dialogue options is to pay off the surgery debt. So apparently, a lot of people went off I to the world, thinking you had to grind side quests until you could afford to pay him... Which isn't that hard... You can do it in maybe an hour or two... Except that when you go back to pay him, it doesn't fix the bug, and the dave/reload method no longer fixes it. So you have to reload the earlier save and lose anything you did when off earning the money to pay him. And if you've saved over that save... You have to restart. Not a huge issue I guess as its so close to the beginning, but yeah... I'm glad I sussed it as a bug and googled :joker:.

****. You just reminded me I need to pay Viktor. Poor guy:laugh:

Clearing my debt is first thing I must do when I play It again.

Tom4784 15-12-2020 02:51 AM

I've got these laser whip things in my arms that are pretty fun.

At the moment, i'm pretty much destroying everyone in my path with a revolver, a shotgun, a katana and my laser whip thing.

user104658 15-12-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 10969358)
Game only crashed once right at the very beginning. Hasn’t since.

Only annoying bug for me is it takes a while to change to Third Person when driving.

I haven't actually had ANY full crashes which is pretty impressive for a game that has its share of bugs.

What are you playing on? The delay switching to third person sounds like slow asset loading (from a hard drive rather than an SSD)... It should be instant, as far as I'm aware.


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