Was he better than Ledger?

How was it?

Watching on Sunday, so excited!

And yet there are still people on social media “I ThInK tHiS wIlL fLoP” “nOt My JoKeR” “LeDgEr Is ThE bEsT” :smug:

I'm going to watch it on Monday night.

He's always been one of my favourites. About time he got an Oscar.

It's criminal how he hasn't won a Best Actor Oscar yet. I mean, I thought Walk the Line would have done it for him easily he was incredible in that! Hopefully this is his year. :shrug:

He should have got it for Gladiator. He was incredible!

I thought you'd watched it already. :fan:

He lost to Philip Seymour Hoffman's Capote that year, who had an equally amazing performance. Their performances, along with Heath Ledger's performance in Brokeback Mountain, makes 2005 one of the strongest Best Actor line-ups ever!

All three of them would've made worthy winners.

He was robbed of Gladiator and especially the Master.

Best movie I've seen in a long, long time. Give Joaquin all the Oscars

I mean box office is meaningless if people just prefer Ledger's joker.

This was fantastic, dark and gripping the entire way through, Joaquin Phoenix did a fantastic job of watching a man go insane, the last thirty minutes had me on edge.

Did he kill his neighbour then?

Going to see this tonight. I'm so excited! :dance:

I like Jack Nicholson version of the joker as well. He's just fantastic.

I thought it was fine, a 7 out of 10.

I feel the Internet hype and clickbait culture has let it down - many film critics have gone into it thinking it is politically dangerous, which it isn't - if any viewer finds the main character to be inspirational then they are as deluded as him. Many comic-book fans have gone in expecting a all-time great film.

It is basically a story of a very damaged man, that loses complete touch with reality, loses empathy, and does terrible things to others. It is a fairly slight story really, although I think the plot works quite well.

When you compare it to the films it emulates - like Taxi Driver - I don't think it is as good as those. Taxi Driver was more powerful because in that film Travis Bickle is an almost ordinary man that takes extreme actions, whereas Arthur in Joker is mentally ill from the start.

Thinking about it later an idea I took out of it was how mobs and revolutionaries can too easily come to believe a person represents something that person really isn't.



Another thing I thought when watching was the trailers showed a lot of the film, without giving away the plot necessarily.

A lot of it is well done - like the last 30 minutes is very tense. It certainly stayed in my mind for a while after watching it.

Oh, and by the way, there was one song-choice I was quite taken aback to hear used - it's as if the film-makers didn't know what they were using there.

Political dangerous :laugh: Why, because it's a straight White man being a hero, and beating people up? Who's been saying it's Politically dangerous? I bet I know the types, The MSM of the left?

There were news stories about how it would inspire 'incels' to violence.

The film isn't like that at all though. Having watched that documentary that was posted on here, there's only one very small part of the film that those people could take something from.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a2...-glitter-song/

Joker's use of a Gary Glitter song
has been heavily criticised


[And, viewers have now been left deeply unimpressed with
the use of Glitter's 1972 'Rock and Roll Part 2' in one scene.]

Don't agree with that, the song didn't commit the crime. I like the film Chinatown, and I'm not gonna stop liking it just because it's a Roman Polanski film. I can dislike Polanski the person for his crimes, but it doesn't mean I have to miss out on his films.

Song
Rock & Roll Part 2
Artist
Gary Glitter
Album
Rock 'N' Roll (Pt. II)
Writers
Gary Glitter, Mike Leander
Licensed to YouTube by
The Orchard Music (on behalf of Snapper Music);
UMPG Publishing,
LatinAutor, UNIAO BRASILEIRA DE EDITORAS DE MUSICA
- UBEM, ASCAP, CMRRA, BMI - Broadcast Music Inc.,
LatinAutor - UMPG, BMG Rights Management,
UMPI, and 8 music rights societies

Polanski
made Chinatown
10 Out Of 10 Film

Before they banned him.

And Played the Nasty Fella with a Knife

Watched this last night and holy ****! Not only is this the best film of the year, it's a strong contender for best film of the decade, as well as the greatest comic book film of all time.

Everything about this film was perfect and Joaquin's performance is simply out of this world! He better win an Oscar.

Better than Avengers End Game?

Easily better imo.

A lot of Americans seem to think it will inspire another aurora type situation. But..thats a bad way to think really as it is shifting the blame from the psycho onto a film.

...I read that earlier...the earnings from soundtrack songs vary a huge amount and Gary Glitter has no star or celebrity ‘power’ at all...so I’m thinking he’ll only earn a very minimal amount from the song being used...

This was so so GOOD, I wanna see it again.

Not difficult to be better than that bloated and overrated fan-wank.

So glad this is good though. Going to see it on Friday. :flutter:

I'm just about to watch it. A late night screening :D

Hope you both enjoy it!

To answer Marc's question on the previous page which contains a minor spoiler.

It was okay. Phoenix played a good joker but I was expecting more from the film. Wasn't dark or twisted enough for me :laugh:

Wow, that was amazing! I really enjoyed it.
Joaquin phoenix was just incredible. What a performance! That's some of the best acting I've ever seen. :clap1:

So teh movie is really well made. It captures the feel of Gotham city perfectly.
But the best thing in it is Joaquin Phoenix. He really takes you on a journey in this. Towards the end I was feeling really unsettled.

Going to see it tonight

Hope you enjoy it. If you like Joaquin Phoenix, you're going to love this!