Maybe I’m thinking of the wrong time, but there was a massive outrage about poppies being burnt. Huge. Only thing people were talking about for days on end.

They recorded it and shared it on social media, at that point anything "private" goes out the window. I do agree with the points you are trying to make though

only takes an ounce of empathy to see that this is not - and should never have been made - a laughing matter

Such grim behaviour tbh.

the things they were laughing at makes you wonder about their IQ

Yes charge the one that posted it
on Whats Ap.

Maybe their lives are bad
the only Crime is posing it online.


BBC radio 5 Presenter
said we do not know their location?


Utter Bollocks
it's South London
Found out yesterday on SkyNewsHD.


Pathetic female presenter Anna Foster Radio 5

Why? It isnt a crime to record a crime? Unless they helped to build the tower, I dont see why they should be prosecuted, the person that recorded it set people to justice.

They did not see it as crime
only after the online feedback
did those men walk into
the Police Station in South London.

The Person that Recorded it and posted it online
is one of them
maybe the 19 year old.



Private Garden
not Public until posted online.

Well the person who recorded it probably got done for their public offence then... not for physically recording the incident. Recording the incident shouldn’t be a crime.

I have to admit I immediately thought it was posted by someone at the party... but without the party-thrower's knowledge. If they truly posted this themselves... well it speaks for itself as to what kind of people they are. Still don't think it's the massive story it's been made into.

Perfect Phone Clip for a reckless 19 year old
who may have recorded it.

People do all sorts of abhorrent stuff but post it on social media and the game changes

And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for twenty-first century technology.

At least somebody will finally be prosecuted for the Grenfell tower burning down and killing all those people.

A 6th person has been arrested
the 19year old.


No one has been charged ,yet.

It was a garden in South Norwood


Ref: ITV London news.

Haven’t personally watched it because I know it will just piss me off.

R.I.P to all those that had their lives stolen that day. Still makes my heart break.

These people are disgraceful twats that I'm glad have been highlighted for their behaviour.

However I do think that the law should be careful on what sort of punishment to give them as we need prison space for bigger offences such as murder, rape etc, and of course hate crimes that lead to violence.

But as I've said I'm glad that these idiots have been highlighted for their disgraceful behaviour, I'd give them a year of Community Service for the crime.

They will get picked on now for years ... good !!


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They have all been released,


A Top Legal Expert on LBC
said they can not be charged with anything
just told off.

no they wont, dont be silly

I'm not sure if you're saying that as though it SHOULDN'T change things? When people say / do things like this in private, it's not particularly tasteful, but it doesn't actively harm anyone. When those things go into the public eye and people who were actually affected by something like this can see it, then it can and does cause emotional distress... so it becomes something far worse.

That said, in this case I really have to question the mindset of these men. There's making a throwaway controversial joke in the moment - I enjoy a good round of Cards Against Humanity as much as the next nihilist - but then there's getting out the PVA glue and crayons and sitting round the table to craft and decorate a ****ing scale model building. I mean... really...

That's good to hear.

we burn a catholic alive on our bonfires, they did not intend, i guess, for anyone other than their poorly educated friends to see it

if it had been trump and his entire family in say airforce one model people would be so happy on here as would a lot of 16-24s

im not defending it but just posing a scenario

funny you should say that as lewes bonfire had a giant effigy off the pm and nothing has been said.

effigies of politicians are fine imo, it's about their political opinions really
I'd find addition of trump's family objectionable and in a bad taste

btw, this incident provided a final straw for me getting a book on fascist behaviour and ideology in the world today; gonna educate myself

What do you think fascism is, and how do you think it relates to this particular incident? No "shade", I just find people's views on that sort of thing interesting.

Yes we do not know they are Racist.

That's why I got the book, to educate myself.
If you want to know I'll tell you. But I want to put a disclaimer that I'm not presenting it as my view to be argued and defended. It's more of a gut feeling.
I think these people did what they did bc that tower represented multicultural Britain with people of colour, immigrants and refugees in social housing.
I think they disaprove of that. They disaprove of other races living here and they disaprove of welfare state. Both together make me think they may hold fascist views (racial purity, no welfare).
As to the definition of fascism, see wikipedia

wtf

They're a few geezers having a bonfire in their garden on bonfire night, they're not putting forward policies for racial purity and a non welfare state.

No one got hurt
that's the legal side

you mean fascists of a garden-variety? :hehe:

Oliver asked so I answered, but I'm not getting into legality or impact or arguing my points as it's just a hunch so :shrug:

A lack of a welfare state isn't necessarily a fascist thing:
People paint fascism as "far right" when looking at racist thugs or politicians they disagree with, but actual fascism is hard to place on the left-right scale as it has aspects of both.

When they put that footage in a public space then it's up to be commented and acted on.

This wasn't a private party, it was an intentional public statement.

I don't understand, they were also charged with an offence so why are you saying it was treated differently?

re. welfare: it is
that intervention you quote was not ideologically driven but practical
they excused it by saying it is for pure germans who fell behind by no fault of their own (blamed it on Jews)
doesn't change the fact that in principle they disagreed with welfare state and wanted a Darwinian survival of the fittest.


I didn't say they were far right, I said fascist so I don't disagree with your statement there. Tho you can't ignore that in common perception some see fascism as a right wing and may mistakenly claim that :shrug:

Should Theresa May be involved in a horrific fire then that, too, would become completely out of order I imagine.

good one :clap2:

Boris and Theressa are not catholics so that ain't tradition at all.

About time people put more effort into prosecuting the actual people at fault for grenfell than this sorry bunch if spastics.