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Ant. 22-11-2018 03:49 PM

Blatant ignorance on here

Given how there's never been any signs of ableism on this forum among the racism, sexism, homophobia, and transphobia we see in on-season, I honestly thought people would have the compassion to understand someone struggles.

Meanwhile people say Anne's only "claiming" to have Asperger's and that she dragged the public's view on autism 'years back'. It's utterly vile and the fact people are unwilling to understand and respect that she's autistic vile.

Also I think those people misunderstand the desire for "equal treatment" minorities have. As a disabled person, I want to be treated equally in society - I want to be confident that my disability won't affect my employment and that I will not be judged for it.
That doesn't necessarily mean I want to be held to the same standards as able-bodied people. Like, if someone expected me to run 100m (heck, even walking it can take it out of me) alongside athletes, I would refuse, and the logic some of these people would have would be "well you wanna be treated equally right? So why are you wanting special treatment?"

Which seems like such an odd example to bring up, but when we consider that Anne is being judged for being exempt from trials on medical grounds (and we don't even know what those grounds are) it's just ridiculous. Part of getting equality is recognises differences and accommodating them - no way should (a demographic - depending on their impairment) disabled people be held to the expectation they should be physically equal to able bodied people because we want to be treated fairly

Marsh. 22-11-2018 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10357367)
Harry has lived for 28 years with no taste or sense of smell - that is a huge disability as he cannot really enjoy any food or alcohol

for example

Right?

What exactly does that have to do with Anne's disability?

Are you suggesting Harry should also be exempt from trials on the basis of having no sense of smell? As apparently any and all disabilities and conditions are obviously all the same.

Alf 22-11-2018 03:50 PM

Donald Trump inspires people, does this mean he's exempt from criticism or nasty comments?

Marsh. 22-11-2018 03:50 PM

Trump is the new Hitler during online discussions. Try harder.

Matthew. 22-11-2018 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10357380)
Donald Trump inspires people, does this mean he's exempt from criticism or nasty comments?

difference is, he is openly racist, sexist and a massive, for lack of a better phrase, dickhead.

Anne has done nothing wrong

Crimson Dynamo 22-11-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357379)
Right?

What exactly does that have to do with Anne's disability?

Are you suggesting Harry should also be exempt from trials on the basis of having no sense of smell? As apparently any and all disabilities and conditions are obviously all the same.

Just reminding people to think of other campmates :)

Emily has a snake phobia and malique seems to have gone home already

Crimson Dynamo 22-11-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357386)
difference is, he is openly racist, sexist and a massive, for lack of a better phrase, dickhead.

Anne has done nothing wrong

no he is not

Beso 22-11-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357330)
No I do not, because she was excluded from the first one on medical grounds. the first one involved crawling about in little tunnels

That will be her ass width

Marsh. 22-11-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10357387)
Just reminding people to think of other campmates :)

Emily has a snake phobia and malique seems to have gone home already

Emily doesn't like snakes. She's never claimed to have ophidophobia

Alf 22-11-2018 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357386)
difference is, he is openly racist, sexist and a massive, for lack of a better phrase, dickhead.

Anne has done nothing wrong

And it's fine to be nasty about another person, so don':t pull others up about doing it when you do it yourself.

Niamh. 22-11-2018 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357396)
Emily doesn't like snakes. She's never claimed to have ophidophobia

Dr. LT made his own diagnosis :smug:

Beso 22-11-2018 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357386)
difference is, he is openly racist, sexist and a massive, for lack of a better phrase, dickhead.

Anne has done nothing wrong

Have you known her for 60 odd years?

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357410)
Have you known her for 60 odd years?

Well, unless she's displayed any of those tendencies in public, you're not going to treat someone like sh*t just on the off chance she might be homophobic or racist.

Compared to a man running one of the world's most powerful countries based on his own hatred.

What a silly comparison.

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10357408)
Dr. LT made his own diagnosis :smug:

Not him printing his own PhD off?

Niamh. 22-11-2018 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357423)
Not him printing his own PhD off?

Next time you have a cold tell LT you have the Flu :fan:

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10357434)
Next time you have a cold tell LT you have the Flu :fan:

:joker:

Matthew. 22-11-2018 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357410)
Have you known her for 60 odd years?

i mean she hasn’t done anything wrong in the show, i didn’t include that bit because i thought it was obvious enough but clearly not

rusticgal 22-11-2018 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10357140)
yes a lot of this is to do with being morbidly obese and the others are using her autism as a way of circumnavigating this fact to excuse her

its being polite, but it wont last

I agree with this. I think there are a lot of things she can do that are not affected by her condition. She has admitted shes lazy....probably why she is obese...and I think that if other people are willing to do things for her she will let them do it. I would like to see her getting involved with SOMETHING...even preparing the veg would be something...but she needs to push herself a bit more physically..she can fetch or gather wood with someone else...but if she is going to be an inspiration she needs to start getting involved and pushing those boundaries.

Beso 22-11-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357441)
i mean she hasn’t done anything wrong in the show, i didn’t include that bit because i thought it was obvious enough but clearly not

So what you are saying is we can only judge her on how she behaves on the show....but we can use an american president to compare her against...

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2018 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10357441)
i mean she hasn’t done anything wrong in the show, i didn’t include that bit because i thought it was obvious enough but clearly not

Change that to "She's done NOTHING in the show" and I would agree with you ,Shes using her condition to get away with being a lazy cow and that is a detriment to other people who have aspergers and lead as normal life as possible, but this thread was opened to point out that IMO Noel will have been told by the producers to make Anne his deputy therefore giving her an excuse to sit on her lazy arse for the next 4 days

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:18 PM

Wow, she makes one comment about the 3 campmates exercising like "I should probably do exercise like that, but I'm probably too lazy" and suddenly the knives are out "Anne won't get out of bed because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't wash dishes because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't help with the cooking because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't breathe because she said she's lazy" "Anne is excluded from trials because she said she's lazy".

Then you get the "Anne has only CLAIMED to have autism, we don't know this to be true".

Abhorrent.

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10357476)
Shes using her condition to get away with being a lazy cow

Proof?

Beso 22-11-2018 04:20 PM

The other campmates are enabling her obesity...and that's nasty.

Matthew. 22-11-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357472)
So what you are saying is we can only judge her on how she behaves on the show....but we can use an american president to compare her against...

i never compared her to anybody

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357483)
The other campmates are enabling her obesity...and that's nasty.

I know right? I saw them allowing her to overeat. Giving her food to enable her to gain even MORE weight.

Meanwhile, on the actual show...

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357472)
So what you are saying is we can only judge her on how she behaves on the show....but we can use an american president to compare her against...

Alf brought Donald Trump into the discussion. Take it up with him.

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357479)
Wow, she makes one comment about the 3 campmates exercising like "I should probably do exercise like that, but I'm probably too lazy" and suddenly the knives are out "Anne won't get out of bed because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't wash dishes because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't help with the cooking because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't breathe because she said she's lazy" "Anne is excluded from trials because she said she's lazy".

Then you get the "Anne has only CLAIMED to have autism, we don't know this to be true".

Abhorrent.

Anne said she will sit and supervise while the others do the work

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10357495)
Anne said she will sit and supervise while the others do the work

On that one occasion she sat there and said I'll supervise, this was the day where they all comforted her and she finally opened up that she was very close to quitting and didn't think she could cope. Way back at the beginning when they were in the poor camp.

They all then started doing things for that night's meal and Anne made that comment, which now you've translated as "For my entire stay in this show I will sit and supervise whilst everybody else does absolutely everything".

No love.

We've seen nowhere near enough footage of the camp outside of tasks, trials etc for you to sit there and say she refuses to do anything.

chuff me dizzy 22-11-2018 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357502)
On that one occasion she sat there and said I'll supervise, this was the day where they all comforted her and she finally opened up that she was very close to quitting and didn't think she could cope. Way back at the beginning when they were in the poor camp.

They all then started doing things for that night's meal and Anne made that comment, which now you've translated as "For my entire stay in this show I will sit and supervise whilst everybody else does absolutely everything".

No love.

We've seen nowhere near enough footage of the camp outside of tasks, trials etc for you to sit there and say she refuses to do anything.

And nowhere on the feed we've seen has she been vertical !!

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10357513)
And nowhere on the feed we've seen has she been vertical !!

Well, this is a lie. :joker:

Beso 22-11-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357490)
I know right? I saw them allowing her to overeat. Giving her food to enable her to gain even MORE weight.

Meanwhile, on the actual show...

They gave her a pillow so the wheezing lump could lay down all bloody day.

Ant. 22-11-2018 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357479)
Wow, she makes one comment about the 3 campmates exercising like "I should probably do exercise like that, but I'm probably too lazy" and suddenly the knives are out "Anne won't get out of bed because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't wash dishes because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't help with the cooking because she said she's lazy" "Anne won't breathe because she said she's lazy" "Anne is excluded from trials because she said she's lazy".

Then you get the "Anne has only CLAIMED to have autism, we don't know this to be true".

Abhorrent.

I didn't even think it was possible for any of that to be made up as a joke, let alone as serious claims

Vile

Marsh. 22-11-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357548)
They gave her a pillow so the wheezing lump could lay down all bloody day.

Meanwhile, on the actual show...

Crimson Dynamo 22-11-2018 04:59 PM

I think Noel will sort this all out

she will have to look lively when he is the boss of the camp

Beso 22-11-2018 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357553)
Meanwhile, on the actual show...

She is letting them as well, which is really annoying me...going in to test herself, she said..

Should have went to bedsRus and saved us all the misery, cause the only thing she's testing is the strength of the legs on her nice big comfy bed, and the plumpness duration of nicks pillow.

Marsh. 22-11-2018 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357566)
She is letting them as well, which is really annoying me...going in to test herself, she said..

Should have went to bedsRus and saved us all the misery, cause the only thing she's testing is the strength of the legs on her nice big comfy bed, and the plumpness duration of nicks pillow.

Wow, you've taken so much from one clip of Nick giving her his luxury item.

Maybe write a novel?

Beso 22-11-2018 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357568)
Wow, you've taken so much from one clip of Nick giving her his luxury item.

Maybe write a novel?

Nothing to add then?

I will leave you to it.:wavey:

Marsh. 22-11-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357571)
Nothing to add then?

I will leave you to it.:wavey:

I've added loads. You've chosen to ignore it and instead invent events that have not even happened.

Quite the imagination you have. :thumbs:

Beso 22-11-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10357573)
I've added loads. You've chosen to ignore it and instead invent events that have not even happened.

Quite the imagination you have. :thumbs:

Tell me what's she's done, cause I'm at a loss.

Marsh. 22-11-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10357579)
Tell me what's she's done, cause I'm at a loss.

Depends what you're referring to?

As it is, everything you listed about her hasn't even happened. Again, quite the imagination you have.


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