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Beso 19-12-2018 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10387048)
Not when she had just been trying to get the whole of the Conservative Party to cry out “They’re behind you.”

She IS a stupid woman. You have seen the dancing?


Old white upper class lady can't dance shocker!!!


He lied by saying he didn't say it..even stevie wonder could tell he said it.

LaLaLand 19-12-2018 06:45 PM

Oh Jez there's no denying what you said :laugh2:

But he's right though lbr. When called out on it he should have just been like "yeah, and?" ha

arista 19-12-2018 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10387011)
I'll take his word, he said stupid people.
However those who state, it would be fine for a Woman to call a man stupid but it's not acceptable for a man to call a woman stupid, is utter hypocrisy in my view.

She was being stupid, those behind her cheering her for her stupidity, were too.
Whether he said people or woman, that woman, not all women at all.
He was right on either count for me.

Perhaps she should act less infantile and ridiculous at PMQs and just concentrate on actually answering some directly.


Thats true.

Beso 19-12-2018 06:55 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misl..._of_parliament

Scarlett. 19-12-2018 08:07 PM

So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

Cherie 19-12-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10387115)
So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

:clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 19-12-2018 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10387115)
So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

What time was wasted?

user104658 19-12-2018 09:09 PM

Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.

Scarlett. 19-12-2018 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10387142)
What time was wasted?

The time they wittered on about what was said, as if it is some sort of big issue, just reprimand Corbyn or whatever and get on with actual grown up stuff instead of playground tittle tattle.

Beso 19-12-2018 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10387167)
Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.


I can argue that the first one was a w...the way he purses his moist lips before he talks would make it look like a p as he began to say w. ....try it.:hehe:

Ramsay 19-12-2018 10:42 PM

He obviously said people

UserSince2005 19-12-2018 10:43 PM

He’s every kind of ist there is. A trump x10

Twosugars 19-12-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10387053)
Old white upper class lady can't dance shocker!!!


He lied by saying he didn't say it..even stevie wonder could tell he said it.

upper class? :laugh: since when a vicar's daughter, career politician married to a banker is upper class?

Marsh. 19-12-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10386892)
To say this in Parliament is beyond a joke, if you called a colleague a stupid man or stupid woman in a work situation you would be up on a disciplinary

Parliament is hardly bloody professional with all the jeering like schoolboys.

Tom4784 19-12-2018 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 10387040)
The amount of abuse that Corbyn gets and they have the audacity to be this outraged.

The Tories are employing Piers Morgan tactics, act like an absolute twat until someone snaps and then start clutching your pearls and pretend to be offended.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 06:12 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12...5275807608.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 06:13 AM

This is not just a Corbyn problem... it sums up the repellent misogyny of the Hard Left

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...Hard-Left.html

Cherie 20-12-2018 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramsay (Post 10387266)
He obviously said people

He obviously said woman

Cherie 20-12-2018 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10387284)
The Tories are employing Piers Morgan tactics, act like an absolute twat until someone snaps and then start clutching your pearls and pretend to be offended.

It's interesting isn't it how people who are all about women and their rights and how they should be treated in the workplace suddenly do an about turn when the left is involved, same with antisemitism

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10387167)
Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.

99% of all the professional lip readers disagree

so i am going to go with them and my own eyes

Famous deaf percussionist Dame Evelyn Glennie, who can read lips, is quoted by BBC Radio, The Sun, the Mirror, the Express, the Guardian, the Times, and in our own report for MailOnline she was 'very certain' he had said woman.
Her comments came via Tim Johns, who produces the Jeremy Vine show on BBC radio, and who tweeted: 'I just showed Evelyn Glennie, the famous percussionist, the footage of Jeremy Corbyn in the Commons. She's deaf and can lip read. She wasn't aware of the story and her interpretation of what he said was 'stupid woman'. She says she's very certain.'
Sky News reports the consensus of a 'team' of lip readers contradicted Labour's denials, and that Mr Corbyn did indeed call the PM a 'stupid woman'. Sky says its experts, including former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.
Speaker John Bercow said he had consulted 'lip speakers' who believed the word was 'woman', but he added he himself accepted the Labour leader's denial.
West Wing actor Rob Lowe, who is deaf in one ear, also waded into the row, tweeting he had seen Mr Cobryn 'say it with his own eyes'.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 06:50 AM

former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.

he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar



vile

Cherie 20-12-2018 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dia. (Post 10387170)
The time they wittered on about what was said, as if it is some sort of big issue, just reprimand Corbyn or whatever and get on with actual grown up stuff instead of playground tittle tattle.

It is a bit more important than that though isn't it especially in view of the harassment and bullying of women that goes on in the Houses of Parliament, if Corbyn feels safe enough to speak like this with a camera on him how does he act behind closed doors, the speaker as well has been accused of this so of course he didn't see anything, I agree with your point that they should be concentrating on Brexit, but given Labour said they were going to vote against any deal even before they knew what was on the table they really don't have the best interests of the country at heart, just their own interest of grasping power so even if this hadn't blown up they wouldn't be concentrating on sorting out Brexit

Beso 20-12-2018 07:21 AM

What is telling is that no labour mp is saying he didn't say it, they are all saying jeremy said he didn't say it.

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 07:31 AM

and arch woman hater Bercow did an Arsene Wenger

:rolleyes:

joeysteele 20-12-2018 07:52 AM

Just to throw another in the mix.
One of my friend's who is deaf and who relies strongly on lipreading and sign language.
States he said person.

So another possibility.

However, it's unbelievable the fuss over this.
Men and women are equal in society yet if she'd called him stupid, most would be howling at her with her backbenchers and voters baying for more.

So for me, nothing wrong here.
He states he didn't say woman.
He stated that to the whole house.

There's no usual personalisation against other MPs that comes from Corbyn.

However, had he stood up and yelled at her she was being stupid.
I for one would have applauded him very loudly indeed.
She's in my view,the coldest,stupidest and worst PM the UK has had in my view.
She was a disastrous Home secretary too.

Yet she gets away with turning very serious issues and concerns affecting the Nation into a pantomime farce.
You couldn't make it up.

Kazanne 20-12-2018 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10387025)
Billy Liar.:joker:

Yes,I am half deaf smudgie so you learn to lipread a lot , it's surprising how much you pick up ,he deffo said woman.

user104658 20-12-2018 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10387407)
99% of all the professional lip readers disagree

so i am going to go with them and my own eyes

Famous deaf percussionist Dame Evelyn Glennie, who can read lips, is quoted by BBC Radio, The Sun, the Mirror, the Express, the Guardian, the Times, and in our own report for MailOnline she was 'very certain' he had said woman.
Her comments came via Tim Johns, who produces the Jeremy Vine show on BBC radio, and who tweeted: 'I just showed Evelyn Glennie, the famous percussionist, the footage of Jeremy Corbyn in the Commons. She's deaf and can lip read. She wasn't aware of the story and her interpretation of what he said was 'stupid woman'. She says she's very certain.'
Sky News reports the consensus of a 'team' of lip readers contradicted Labour's denials, and that Mr Corbyn did indeed call the PM a 'stupid woman'. Sky says its experts, including former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.
Speaker John Bercow said he had consulted 'lip speakers' who believed the word was 'woman', but he added he himself accepted the Labour leader's denial.
West Wing actor Rob Lowe, who is deaf in one ear, also waded into the row, tweeting he had seen Mr Cobryn 'say it with his own eyes'.

Fair enough; I'll conceed being wrong on this one, however...

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10387408)
he lied

he lied in parliament


he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar



vile

:omgno: :omgno: :omgno: Stop the press! Politician TELLS LIE in House of Commons :joker:.

Come on LT. Even for you, this is a stretch, if telling porkies in The Commons was a sackable offence there'd be tumbleweeds in the halls. Theresa May herself would have been loaded into a cannon on the roof and fired onto the moon.

Kazanne 20-12-2018 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 10387048)
Not when she had just been trying to get the whole of the Conservative Party to cry out “They’re behind you.”

She IS a stupid woman. You have seen the dancing?

Hardly stupid,I'de like to see some on here do her job,some people must think it's a doddle,I'de hate the job and would not be clever enough to do it,but even the simplist person knows Corbyn is a liar, so if that's what you want in a PM vote for him.At least she has bottle,i'm sure if she had said it she would have admitted it.

user104658 20-12-2018 08:37 AM

Regardless it's all shameful distraction. The country is on an absolute knife-edge flirting with economic disaster, and the press is like "Ehmeged forget Brexit, he said Stupid Woman!!!" like it's the news that matters today.

Talk about shameful? It's embarrassing :umm2:.

bots 20-12-2018 08:37 AM

if an mp gets upset about being called stupid, they really shouldnt be in the job. For me this just conforms to the norm of let's get upset on her behalf because there may have been the slightest hint of sexism in his remark

I can't stand Corbyn, but his remark in itself was trivial. Losing his cool/temper so easily however, is a big problem.

user104658 20-12-2018 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10387437)
if an mp gets upset about being called stupid, they really shouldnt be in the job. For me this just conforms to the norm of let's get upset on her behalf because there may have been the slightest hint of sexism in his remark

Well that's the thing isn't it. I doubt May herself gives a stuff that Corbyn called her a stupid woman. I also don't see how the comment is sexist; it doesn't imply that he thinks "women are stupid" at all and that's simply conjecture from people who want to be offended, and want to find persecution in every statement. If he had said "Stupid man" about any male politician, which is perfectly feasible, people would have (correctly) understood that the intended insult is "stupid". Because he said "woman" due to the fact that she is, in fact, female... it's a problem?

Is it not more of a problem that the press / the public ASSUME that "woman" is intended to be insulting even when there's no real indication of that?

Withano 20-12-2018 09:17 AM

BREAKING NEWS

She is bloody stupid, confirmed, so credit where its due b

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 10:11 AM

it was very much a sexist term and the fact he muttered t when he was under pressure makes it even more revealing

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10387433)
Fair enough; I'll conceed being wrong on this one, however...



:omgno: :omgno: :omgno: Stop the press! Politician TELLS LIE in House of Commons :joker:.

Come on LT. Even for you, this is a stretch, if telling porkies in The Commons was a sackable offence there'd be tumbleweeds in the halls. Theresa May herself would have been loaded into a cannon on the roof and fired onto the moon.

Its not the same as a political half truth tho


Here is a man who made a sexist insult to the PM live on TV for everyone to see and when called on it he denied it.

Its as a clear an indication on what lies behind his mask as one needs

(and the deaf man at the TL's work just laughed and said "woman" when he walked in) and everyone cheered :joker: - he said he has never been so popular in his life as he was last night on da socials

Greg! 20-12-2018 10:17 AM



Niccy snapped!

Crimson Dynamo 20-12-2018 10:22 AM

Nicola calls him a bare faced liar


gon yersel hen

Nicky91 20-12-2018 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10387408)
former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.

he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar



vile


Corbyn at least is right that May is a stupid PM (with bad choices) and i think he would be a better PM, much more professional too

joeysteele 20-12-2018 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10387435)
Hardly stupid,I'de like to see some on here do her job,some people must think it's a doddle,I'de hate the job and would not be clever enough to do it,but even the simplist person knows Corbyn is a liar, so if that's what you want in a PM vote for him.At least she has bottle,i'm sure if she had said it she would have admitted it.


You think a 60 year old woman playing daft pantomime, in a serious political questioning session to avoid answering her own indecisive behaviour and total incompetence.
Is admirable.
For goodness sake.

I find that astounding from you I really do.
This forum gets worse.

joeysteele 20-12-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10387489)
Corbyn at least is right that May is a stupid PM (with bad choices) and i think he would be a better PM, much more professional too

I'll go further, she's an idiot in my eyes.
She's intelligent but acts an idiot in the most important job in the land.

She's been deceitful all through her career, I'm mystified any but her hard-line heartless supporters, believe a word she says.

Even if he did say woman, which I can't say for sure he did or didn't as I wasn't beside him.
If he did though, I'd make sure if I got the chance, to shake his hand for doing so, as to that awful particular woman.

James 20-12-2018 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg! (Post 10387467)


Niccy snapped!

Jeez, that was a horrible statement for the First Minister of Scotland to make. A bit like the stuff Trump sometimes comes out with on Twitter. It just confirms everything I think about the SNP.

And if they are going to play what-about games then they don't have a right to complain about Brexit causing havoc, when they wanted the same in 2014 with the independence referendum.


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