It isn't, it's factual. Have a look at civil unrest in France over the years; the current riots are not particularly unusual.

And majority Brexit voters were over 50 and an even higher percentage over 65.

It's not a guess or an assumption; the figures are available.

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.ne...-28/vote1b.png


Old, uneducated Tories. It's not a guess, it's not ignorant or naive, it is statistical fact.


If Brexit is cancelled, 50 - 70+ year olds are not going to be rioting in the streets. The idea is ludicrous. They will grumble that it's "****ing typical" to be ignored by politicians, and go on with their day. If there's any rioting, it'll be from groups who are motivated by the "controlling the borders" xenophobic aspect of the Brexit vote, and frankly, worrying about their reaction shouldn't be a factor in any decision made... because they're going to kick off anyway when we've full Brexited and immigration from Asia, Africa and the Middle East inevitably increases instead of going down as they are hoping.

Post number 59 of this thread, 3rd line down.

Anything else?

You have to wonder about that 5% of UKIP voters!

'Stop using an argument I can't win against!'

She was murdered by a right wing terrorist, pretty much everyone can agree to that but it's telling you're not calling him that. You can't just disallow a point because you don't like it, argue against it instead.

Also I'm not saying 17.4 million people killed her, again, your tribalism is showing. I've said before that both brexiteers and the right need to disavow their extreme elements but you keep, conveniently so, ignoring that.

I think you're completely wrong there.

I think there's plenty of people who voted Leave who at the time, spurred on by false promises from the brexit side who have rethought their position now that they are faced with the choice of a bad deal or a no deal exit which will be bad for everyone.

If people still feel the same way as they did before then the result won't change, the brexit side only want to block another vote because they don't think they'll win now people are faced with the ramifications of what brexit will entail. Not very democratic, is it?

People are allowed to change their minds, I personally think people should be held to their mistakes in the choices they make but it would be undemocratic to not allow a vote just because one side believes they won't win again.

If the tide has changed, I think expecting the new majority to be silent and accept a compromise that's no longer the will of the people is wrong and hypocritical.

The only real democratic option is another vote, if people still want brexit, we leave with no deal since that deal won't ever be accepted and if people change their mind then they change their mind as is their democratic prerogative. One final vote now that we aren't voting on possibilities but real options makes the most sense.

If people's belief in Brexit is as strong as brexiteers have you believe than they have nothing to fear from the democratic process.

They only look extreme to you, so I don't know who you want me to disavow?

Are you going to disavow Owen Jones who looks extreme to me?

Thursday night, Owen Jones was given a platform on BBC to tell the nation that Tommy Robinson is against all Muslims, Tommy is not against all Muslims, he just speaks out about the ones who commit anus crimes, like rape, fgm, terrorism ect. What's wrong with that? and why is nobody challenging Owen Jones on his lies.

The last general election proved that the far-right is not even close to being relevant, how many seats in Parliament do they have?

Owen Jones is a twat and Tommy Robinson is also a massive twat, both of which lie and spread falsities for the sake of their agenda.

Trying to come at me using the left won't really work though, I don't consider myself part of the left any more. It's becoming as warped as the right in several respects.

No-one who can comprehend what they say like Tommy Robinson or Owen Jones, using either to represent "their side" is just pointless.

Checekd it Wannashag ...but it doesnt explain to me how the far right is now the extreme right?:shrug::shrug:

Oh look..Here's Olliver that thinks babies drowing is good

That's because you're dumb.

:joker::joker::joker::joker:intelligent in put lad

He is not dumb


He is clever

And a spurious nonsequitor to you too.

:think: .... :suspect:... Labour spies

I don't think at this point trying to stop Brexit would cause a far right surge - I think most of the apparent rises in the far right across Europe is mostly caused by the migration crisis not being averted efficiently, so people are voting for those they believe will sort it out. Remaining in a trade union isn't really comparable to what some on the continent are facing, so I doubt it would lead to similar results.

Indeed, and I personally believe such a "surge" is actually more likely post-Brexit because there will be a decline in white European immigration (which those on the further right don't actually care about) and a corresponding INCREASE in immigration from further afield (which those people currently are under the illusion will be halted or stopped through Brexit).

Honestly I think there is a section of society that is going to be very, VERY upset in 5 years time when they start to realise that Brexit didn't fulfil their immigration wishes in the slightest.

Yeah, the chain of events won't be a)no Brexit b)far right rises, but a)any form of (no/) deal which compromises our borders b)more undesirable immigration c)far right rises.

of course majority of old people chose to leave, quite selfish of them since they aren't around on this world for that long anymore, unlike the youth who voted to remain


might seem rude this post from me, but facts are facts


poor youth in UK who wanted to remain who must now be forced to live in a brexit uk :(

The borders don't even need to be "compromised", there will simply be more legal migration of ethnic minorities and when it comes right down to it, for many Brexit voters that's the real problem (the "erosion of British culture", as they see it) and not the legality of migration.

Economically, the country cannot and will not have vastly reduced migration numbers. We have an ageing population, it just isn't possible to dramatically reduce net migration. Leaving the EU will (almost certainly) reduce the number of European migrants and thus the "gap" will be filled with mostly Middle Eastern, Indian/Pakistani and African migrants. You can almost hear the chorus of "This ain't wot I Brexitted for!!" already.

Nicky the "youth" thought we were going to sail away and leave the European continent so they are still delighted to find us on the weather map every night

they will be fine as long as insta does not crash

i'm fine as long as there isn't chaos in UK, and you guys aren't going on and on against us in the EU

we don't want drama honestly

This is a Fake story
no truth in it.


From a Conservative MP who Demands the PM Deal

Project Fear 2

Opening our borders and letting in all the trash in the world caused a rise in the far right. Shhhhh though.

Lovely :idc:

if people are extremists they will continue to be extremists whether brexit is blocked or not. As an example, Nigel never stopped being an arse after the referendum, not even for a minute.

You may want to pretend that we've not let anyone dubious in, and as ever, that's your right.

LOL... true.

King of consistency

:flutter:

Ok .so eitheir my English is bad..or maybe yours is woeful:shrug::shrug:
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You are far right or not...no one is to blame for that....sure carry on deffering to your fellow humans as trash..I guess they have the wrong skin colour and relegion.

With respect Lime, you know nothing about me and I object to you assuming I'm racist.

I am the descendent of refugees. That doesn't mean that I can't acknowledge that this country's open door policy and our habit of allowing illegal migrants to stay, has meant that not just hard working, tax paying law abiding people have entered and sadly, we don't know exactly how many have arrived - good and bad.

It's funny how sometimes it is descendants of immigrants are the loudest opponents of immigration. Farage for example etc

I can't be racist, some of my best ancestors were were foreigners!

You would think that history would have taught us by now, that when people are dehumanized to the point of being equal to waste, then we open the door for it to happen all over again.

sigh

illegal immigration

he has no problem with legal immigration if controlled.

Surely you knew this? :shrug:

And with respect Livia your post i quoted said nothing about illegal migrants ( still think it's dreadfull to refer to illegals as trash)

I'm not sure you are a racist ...only you know that..I do however object to you refering to illegal migrants as trash....did history teach us nothing?

To have such a problem with European immigrants probably means that the far right was already present in the UK but was just lying dormant.

Wanting to keep affordable housing, our benefit system and the NHS for the people who contribute to it is not a far right or extremist philosophy though, it's simple fair play

and it is what they do in many countries in the EU for instance Spain and no one has an issue

Well, Farage's family came here in the 19th Century from Germany.

My grandparents came here in 1945, from the German death camps.

I don't like being lumped in with him.