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Oliver_W 19-02-2019 04:41 PM

What ever happened to Nikki Haley, aka the obvious voice for first female president?

Wizard. 19-02-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 10450459)
Either way IF Sanders won the nomination of course I'm gonna vote for him against fat orange cheeto.

Miss Yorkshire voting for the President of the United States of America, we stan!

Tom4784 19-02-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10450456)
Trump remains unbothered

Yup, he can't worry about an election he won't win when Robert Mueller's throwing all his friends in jail and is looking at him next.

Underscore 19-02-2019 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10450463)
Miss Yorkshire voting for the President of the United States of America, we stan!

not two months into sanders presidency a mueller probe opening up for yorkshire intervention :shocked:

montblanc 19-02-2019 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 10450459)
Either way IF Sanders won the nomination of course I'm gonna vote for him against fat orange cheeto.

not you voting from england

Underscore 19-02-2019 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montblanc (Post 10450466)
not you voting from england

shush i like to live the fantasy

and yorkshire :nono: dont wanna be associated with the english pigs

Underscore 19-02-2019 04:44 PM

the real 2020 ticket.

harris president
o'rourke vp


https://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxne....jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Liam- 19-02-2019 04:44 PM

At the end of the day, the presidency isn’t about representation, it’s supposed to be about what’s best for the country and right now, what’s better for the world, so if an old white man is what the best option is, then so be it.

Crimson Dynamo 19-02-2019 04:45 PM

His 70% taxes are really gonna play well with the electorate

:skull:

Crimson Dynamo 19-02-2019 04:46 PM

as is the word

socialist

:skull::skull:

Wizard. 19-02-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10450469)
At the end of the day, the presidency isn’t about representation, it’s supposed to be about what’s best for the country and right now, what’s better for the world, so if an old white man is what the best option is, then so be it.

Mark my words, come back here in 2020 when Sanders loses and Trump is president again.

Underscore 19-02-2019 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10450475)
Mark my words, come back here in 2020 when Sanders loses and Trump is president again.

He won't win the nom

Liam- 19-02-2019 04:50 PM

Trump will beat anyone he’s up against lbr

Liam- 19-02-2019 04:50 PM

The electorate system works to his advantage

Tom4784 19-02-2019 04:54 PM

No, I think if Trump even makes it to the election, he'll have a hard time against anyone who isn't a complete idiot or **** up.

Trump used the corruption allegations and the russian email leaks to his advantage to cast doubt on Hillary and bring over a lot of moderate voters to his side but the weapons he used last time will be used against him and he won't be able to do his usual tricks to win over the moderates. His base will always vote for him but that's not enough to win an election especially considering that the polls show that he has lost a lot of support and that the moderates and middle ground voters that came out for him last time probably won't this time.

Wizard. 19-02-2019 04:54 PM

yes

Wizard. 19-02-2019 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10450488)
No, I think if Trump even makes it to the election, he'll have a hard time against anyone who isn't a complete idiot or **** up.

Trump used the corruption allegations and the russian email leaks to his advantage to cast doubt on Hillary and bring over a lot of moderate voters to his side but the weapons he used last time will be used against him and he won't be able to do his usual tricks to win over the moderates. His base will always vote for him but that's not enough to win an election especially considering that the polls show that he has lost a lot of support and that the moderates and middle ground voters that came out for him last time probably won't this time.

But tell me would moderate voters vote for Bernie or would a centrist have a better shot?

TomC 19-02-2019 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10450438)
Except it is, he is discounting someone, not on their credentials but on the fact that they are white, male and old.

It's a ridiculous thing to count someone out, not because of their beliefs but because of their attributes. If Underscore knew what he was talking about, he'd realise that Bernie's stances and views would likely match up to his own. Bernie became a favourite of younger voters for a reason but Underscore seemingly refuses to acknowledge that because of Bernie's race, age and gender.

It's pretty damn clear cut and indicative of why I consider myself more centre than left leaning these days. Both the right and left are becoming extreme reflections of each other.

He didn't 'discount' them, he just expressed preference, that the President is of more varied characteristics.

I don't agree with the logic, but it's not 'racist'.

Brother Leon 19-02-2019 04:57 PM

By far the best candidate for America and the rest of the world.


Too little too late though. He should have been the nominee last time. He would have beat Trump.

Oliver_W 19-02-2019 04:58 PM

tbh I also think it's Trump's to lose right now - his SOTU speech was pretty good, and garnered a good response. The democrats also need to work on their image - when Alexandria Occasional Cortex appears in the media, it's just embarrassing; she is their version of Dianne Abbott.

Tom4784 19-02-2019 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riley. (Post 10450495)
But tell me would moderate voters vote for Bernie or would a centrist have a better shot?

A lot of Trump's promises have gone up in smoke, a lot of Bernie's policies are rooted in reality and benefit the working and middle classes. Bernie's policies will resonate more with voters than the proven lies or Trump.

Bernie would have won last time and I think he'd stand a good chance this time, Joe Biden is the more reliable candidate but either of them could win against Trump who will likely be down and out by 2020.

Jack_ 19-02-2019 05:17 PM

If the DNC hadn't fallen over backwards to ensure Hillary got the nomination then he'd be President right now. Most polling showed that

The Democrats need to get their **** together and fast or they're going to lose again in 2020. And by that I mean not nominating another run-of-the-mill, wishy-washy, neoliberal establishment candidate. Electorates all over the west are fed up with that and the US is no different, it's one of the main reason why Trump ended up in the White House. The political landscape has changed dramatically (and dare I say for the better), and the only thing that's going to defeat him is by fighting fire with fire - with a directly opposed "radical" candidate.

Their call.

Oliver_W 19-02-2019 05:20 PM

But socialist policies wouldn't be a change for the better.

Moniqua 19-02-2019 05:22 PM

our Bernie :love:

bots 19-02-2019 05:23 PM

I haven't seen a decent dem candidate yet for 2020, but at this point I don't think they can say yet what the most appropriate candidate would be. Trump may have left office, if he does the GOP will go down with him and the dems will walk it whomever they put up. If Trump is still in office, I don't think it will be a fair election by that point so the dems wont win whatever choice they make. It may be too late for them already

Jack_ 19-02-2019 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10450546)
But socialist policies wouldn't be a change for the better.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/3172...defb/tenor.gif

Jack_ 19-02-2019 05:31 PM

Sorry...you made that too easy :whistle:

UserSince2005 19-02-2019 05:31 PM

ill be voting for kanye

Matthew. 19-02-2019 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10450501)
tbh I also think it's Trump's to lose right now - his SOTU speech was pretty good, and garnered a good response. The democrats also need to work on their image - when Alexandria Occasional Cortex appears in the media, it's just embarrassing; she is their version of Dianne Abbott.

No she’s not, AOC is doing fantastically well :nono:

Moniqua 19-02-2019 05:33 PM

our AOC :love:

Matthew. 19-02-2019 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10450559)
Sorry...you made that too easy :whistle:

Lol I did that in the Jussie Smollett thread

He wasn’t impressed :laugh:

Matthew. 19-02-2019 05:34 PM

legend Alexandria Ocasio Cortez <3

RileyH 19-02-2019 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 10450560)
ill be voting for kanye

me

Oliver_W 19-02-2019 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10450567)
Lol I did that in the Jussie Smollett thread

He wasn’t impressed :laugh:

I didn't care. And who turned out to be right in that thread?

(Most likely, story still developing)

Oliver_W 19-02-2019 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 10450558)

Because of all the times socialism has helped before? Kay.

Matthew. 19-02-2019 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10450579)
I didn't care. And who turned out to be right in that thread?

(Most likely, story still developing)

Posts have been deleted now, but LT was moaning about how Jussie’s initial doubters were being “bullied”. I asked how there was any bullying going on, and you replied “Someone told me I was taking my sigpic too seriously”.

For someone who claims not to care about it, and then claim it was bullying, is pretty contradictory :suspect:

Oliver_W 19-02-2019 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew. (Post 10450585)
Posts have been deleted now, but LT was moaning about how Jussie’s initial doubters were being “bullied”. I asked how there was any bullying going on, and you replied “Someone told me I was taking my sigpic too seriously”.

For someone who claims not to care about it, and then claim it was bullying, is pretty contradictory :suspect:

I didn't say I cared about it, just that it happened.

Epic. 19-02-2019 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Underscore (Post 10450315)
That's actually really disrespectful to really qualified women who are running for the office...

Well ignoring the obvious sarcasm, you're really disrespectful to a qualified man running for the office

Moniqua 19-02-2019 05:45 PM

BB19: Cameron
CBB22: Kirstie Alley
CBB21: Ann Widdecombe

:hehe:

Matthew. 19-02-2019 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10450587)
I didn't say I cared about it, just that it happened.

Matthew: “How was there any bullying?”
Oliver: (quoting Matthew’s post) “Someone said I’m taking my sigpic too seriously...”

Are you telling me that you weren’t trying to say it was bullying?


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