I can tell you that speaking negatively about everton isn't phobic or an ism, it's just picking low hanging fruit.

this thread is why I steer clear of SN&D

Untrue. If there was genuine motive for a new referendum after remain won (like an ibvious shift in mindsets or ukip ever winning a single seat) then it would be worth discussing again.

The mindset of 2016 is not a reason to go against the mindset of people in 2019. And if the mindset shifts once more in 2022 back to leaves favour - it would be stupid to ignore it based on how we felt in 2019.

Second referendum. No one explicitly voted for a No Deal Brexit, not even the Leavers were pushing that.

In the General election, the Conservatives ran on, "No deal is better than a bad deal" and they were voted in. So we did vote for no deal.

Er.....

The armed forces have activated a team in a nuclear-proof bunker under the Ministry of Defence as the government prepares next Monday to enter "very high readiness mode" for a no-deal Brexit, Sky News can reveal.

Control of overall planning for the impact of the UK leaving the European Union without a withdrawal agreement next week shifts from the Cabinet Office to the government's emergency committee Cobra.

Nowhere on the ballot paper did it say DEAL, there were 2 options "Leave or remain "

Nowhere did it say “leave with no deal” either.

Leave is leave

leave the eu
what about single market and customs union? you can leave the eu and remain a member in these two as people were not asked about that
it's all bs

True. I see people who wanted a 'second referendum' to allow the people to have a say, only to now say they want Article 50 revoked realising that a second ref is highly unlikely now we have an actual deadline of May 22nd. So it shows all they ever really wanted was to try and win and remain anyway.

No but that surely comes under the Leave category. There were many different ways of 'Leave' and only one way to Remain, so whatever way we leave deal or no deal then Leave voters have to accept that and Remain voters should respect that.

This thread really separates the level headed among us huh

May’s deal or No Deal, either way the future is ****ing bleak.

The future is what you make it.

Didn't you learn anything from Back to the future?

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If I could, I would vote for the agreement as Mrs May has it.
Reluctantly.
More to get it over with than any other reason.

However, were a second referendum held,. With all the nightmare it would be.
Then it would depend what choices were on the ballot paper.

If remain was on, I'd vote remain again.

If it wasn't, then it would depend what was on the ballot paper but I'd never vote for a hard brexit no deal.
Never ever.

"Democracy has spoken - more than half of the country agreed to commit economic suicide, and thus - even in full knowledge that it will be a disaster - that is what we shall do, else democracy is dead or something"

explain this please

TS people dont vote worrying about big business share prices


this cant be news?

It's pretty self explanatory. Which bit do you need me to explain? The idea that the French are, as Partridge would say "cheese-eating surrender-monkeys" is a myth.

You can't be suggesting that real jobs and incomes (and prices) won't be affected?

Do you even know what that means love

If you think that then you don't understand what democracy is or, more likely, you only value democracy when it swings your way.

Just wondering, do you think we should no longer have elections? After all, we voted one way a few years back and it would be completely undemocratic to ignore that result or see if we want a change of leadership because, in your eyes, votes are a one time thing and can never be done again.... As long as they go your way.

People voted for Brexit back in 2016, they didn't vote what kind of brexit they want. When faced with a no deal brexit, it's only fair if the people are heard in regards to what kind of brexit they want. If you have a problem with that then it's you that's 'destroying democracy' since you seem to want to strip people of their right to have a say seemingly out of fear that it won't go your way.

Brexiters rarely do.

Remain isn't a kind of Brexit though. I just do not believe that if we had another referendum and it went in the way of Remain that we could put the last 2 years behind us and carry on as normal. If we want to go back to the EU in 10 years time, then have another referendum then and if the majority is to seek to re-join then so be it, but let us implement the result of the 2016 referendum first.

My original post stated that I'd have a vote whether people wanted No Deal or not. Chuff assumed that the brexit she wanted is the same that everyone else wants and completely misunderstood what I was saying. I think it's important to gauge whether the country wants a no deal brexit before we are thrown into it.

If people voted against No Deal Brexit but opposed any of deals that the EU offered than a do over off the original referendum is the only realistic option. If the 'will of the people' is still the same as it was back in 2016 then leavers have nothing to fear, it's only people who are scared that votes won't go their way that try to shut such votes down.

If people voted to leave in that referendum then I'd say just go for a no deal and let them suffer the consequences.

i am getting to the point now where I just don't care what way we end up going as long as it gets resolved one way or another without further delay. Whatever way we go, people will just have to make the best of it.

THIS is how desperate the referendum losers are

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technolog...UepoP-UaMbIiIc

4chan are internet alt-right trolls. They aren't doing this to support the petition, they're doing it to try and screw it up on behalf of your side. Which is perfectly in keeping with the chicanery used for the referendum.

The problem is that we all lose when this goes through, especially if it's a no deal.

Kind of in the same boat.
I think morally we should leave but not super passionate about it.Whatever we do,just get on with it ffs.

Lol that’s the leave losers trying to wreck the poll and thereby the notion of free speech. Pathetic AND desperate :)