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Tom4784 03-08-2019 11:54 AM
A lot of people downplaying this would be screeching in outrage if a left winger said this about the right or if it was labour saying this about a Tory/Brexit party member.

Partisanship at it's finest....

As for the tweet itself, it's just typical dumbass baby boomer humour, inane, pointless and just plain dumb.

Kizzy 03-08-2019 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10648689)
Ever since time began, jokes have been made about tragic events ... it's human nature, and I am so disappointed that the world has gotten so frightened of saying the wrong thing that it's lost all its humour

A kids joke that was going round at the time of a particularly tragic event .... Why should you not wear loose fitting underwear .... cause cher nob l fallout

Another ... where did the shuttle crew go on holiday ... i wont state that one here

The point is, humour has always been associated with death and tragedy, tasteless maybe, but still humour ... and it's really grim that people try and stop it now because it doesn't fit with their particular political agenda, because as others have said, if the jibe was free of politics, people would be laughing their heads off.
Do you know what peers are? What they do?...do you not feel that its distasteful for someone of his supposed standing to be engaging in such juvenile humour about elected officials?...
Can we not look past the alleged 'humour' in the tweet, that is not the issue. It's the disrespect.

I'm not doubting this tweet had some rolling on the floor laughing, I'm also not doubting black humour exists.

But lets see this for what it is, childish mocking from a guy who bought his way into the Lords towards the elected shadow cabinet ...he even manages to offend Catholics too well done 'lord' Sugar.

Livia 03-08-2019 02:10 PM
Do I have to ask why people are suddenly defensive of the Catholic church? I've not seen such hypocrisy on here since... yesterday.

Kizzy 03-08-2019 02:22 PM
I haven't defended anyone...not suggesting you're referring to me of course. I made a reference to offence to Catholics is all.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10648790)
Because that particular thread treats death with irreverence. I don't take part in it.... I find it distasteful, but I don't stop other people taking part.

We have thread after thread on here where people ridicule religion and people of faith. The consensus is, how stupid people are to believe fairy stories in an old book probably written by out of work camel drivers. But... if someone is perceived to have insulted Corbyn, suddenly everyone cares about disrespect being shown to Christian martyrs.
It's just changing topic to be about members. Nothing more, nothing less.

The thread is not relevant unless she's specifically referring to members in this thread. Which she refuses to clarify.

As for the religious insults, people do care. Religious debates have been repeated on this forum ad nauseam for years. It's probably hit the point where people avoid them like the plague. Like I do, not because I don't have an opinion on it, but it's literally repeating the same debate for the 1000th time.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 02:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10648689)
Ever since time began, jokes have been made about tragic events ... it's human nature, and I am so disappointed that the world has gotten so frightened of saying the wrong thing that it's lost all its humour

A kids joke that was going round at the time of a particularly tragic event .... Why should you not wear loose fitting underwear .... cause cher nob l fallout

Another ... where did the shuttle crew go on holiday ... i wont state that one here

The point is, humour has always been associated with death and tragedy, tasteless maybe, but still humour ... and it's really grim that people try and stop it now because it doesn't fit with their particular political agenda, because as others have said, if the jibe was free of politics, people would be laughing their heads off.
So... kids jokes are an appropriate method of public communication for a member of the house of Lords?

Good grief.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10648545)
I mean it’s not a non existent hypothetical - some people have a dark humour, I bet countless people have made a joke similar - doesn’t mean they’re bad people or should be crucified online. It might be a non existent hypothetical if you are sheltered and haven’t met lots of different people in the real world

I don’t agree with what he said and it is a bit tasteless, but I find it a little embarrassing for people to have such an OTT reaction to something that was a tasteless joke
It is non existent since you're talking about "people in a museum". Not actually referring to anyone real or specific.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10648516)
Very unfair comment as Chuff is not on here much and we don't always agree,isn't she a member that you are discussing aswell, no need to bring her into everything , I agree with some people ,others I do not, that's not cheerleading, it's the way we all are .
Double standard.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10648928)
Do I have to ask why people are suddenly defensive of the Catholic church? I've not seen such hypocrisy on here since... yesterday.
"People" "Why people are defensive?"

Because they are?

It's not hypocritical unless you're referring to someone specific and have proof they're acting hypocritically.

But, yeah, you won't add substance to the statement.

chuff me dizzy 03-08-2019 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10648443)
If the bones and skulls are so openly on show, I can’t see why a comment or joke about them is so taboo.
If they deserve respect then give them it and bury them in peace.:shrug:
Spot on Smudgie !!

joeysteele 03-08-2019 03:24 PM
I neither care whether any find what Sugar says offensive, funny, interesting or irrelevant.

I think the man ignorant, pompous and I've never liked him and likely never will.

An overgrown idiot, playing at stupid games even on his programmes.
Where he has to play the almighty and sits under the delusion he can fire people even before he's hired them.

What a waste of space and time.
In my view.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 10648970)
I neither care whether any find what Sugar says offensive, funny, interesting or irrelevant.

I think the man ignorant, pompous and I've never liked him and likely never will.

An overgrown idiot, playing at stupid games even on his programmes.
Where he has to play the almighty and sits under the delusion he can fire people even before he's hired them.

What a waste of space and time.
In my view.
And insists they call him "Lord". Absolute arse Joey, you're spot on.

Twosugars 03-08-2019 04:09 PM
I've read some ridiculous reaching in this thread claiming this crass insensitive humour is ok for teens so it's ok for a peer of the realm, that we shouldn't be defending the church or religion bc they're bad, that the bones are on show so free for all to take the piss out of, etc etc.
I dont begrudge Sugar having fun at Corbyn's expense, political caricature has a long and important tradition.
But dont drag human remains into it, especially those important to a different religion. Why do it? Corbyn has nothing to do with the catholic church anyway.
Take a pic of a flock of sheep or a pile of bricks and compare them to the shadow cabinet.
Dont go into a church and show your contempt to a different tradition if you expect your traditions to be respected.

Marsh. 03-08-2019 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10649009)
I've read some ridiculous reaching in this thread claiming this crass insensitive humour is ok for teens so it's ok for a peer of the realm, that we shouldn't be defending the church or religion bc they're bad, that the bones are on show so free for all to take the piss out of, etc etc.
I dont begrudge Sugar having fun at Corbyn's expense, political caricature has a long and important tradition.
But dont drag human remains into it, especially those important to a different religion. Why do it? Corbyn has nothing to do with the catholic church anyway.
Take a pic of a flock of sheep or a pile of bricks and compare them to the shadow cabinet.
Dont go into a church and show your contempt to a different tradition if you expect your traditions to be respected.
:clap1:

That last sentence, especially.

joeysteele 03-08-2019 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10648971)
And insists they call him "Lord". Absolute arse Joey, you're spot on.
Yes Marsh.
You described him better than I did.


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