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Amy Jade 06-08-2019 11:17 AM

I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

Nicky91 06-08-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10652566)
I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

that's why i say it's more partially to blame, but only dangerous for those who are unable to separate reality from fiction, caught up in paranoia due to being mentally ill

Oliver_W 06-08-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10652492)
What has he attempted to do about it?

This v
Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10651830)
Trump also called for stronger mental health laws that would help “better
identify” mentally disturbed individuals capable of mass shootings.

He proposed that new laws could ensure that individuals suffering from mental
health could “not only get treatment but when necessary, involuntary
confinement.”


Twosugars 06-08-2019 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10652583)
This v

Why he revoked Obama gun check for mentally I'll?

How come those shootings are not happening around the world if things he pointed out are to blame?

bots 06-08-2019 11:30 AM

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

Twosugars 06-08-2019 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10652566)
I'm sick of video games and movies being blamed.

It's lazy af to just blame entertainment.

Exactly. Its a smoke screen

Twosugars 06-08-2019 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652587)
Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

Except NRA are lying.

bots 06-08-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10652592)
Except NRA are lying.

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

The Slim Reaper 06-08-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652587)
Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

That's false equivalence; you're equating an organisation that pays politicians to allow them to sell as many guns for as much money as possible, regardless of what the citizenry wants, to gamers and movie watchers. That's not irony, it's silliness.

Liam- 06-08-2019 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652602)
not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

And they’re capable of doing so because of the ridiculously easy access to guns capable of killing multiple people in the space of 5 or 10 minutes

The Slim Reaper 06-08-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652602)
not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

Not all mass shooters have facial hair, but some do. We can play this game right down to underwear and socks if we want to.

Twosugars 06-08-2019 11:46 AM

Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories

Quote:


A Republican state representative in Ohio who blamed “homosexual marriage” and “recreational marijuana” – along with many of Donald Trump’s favourite targets – for gun massacres is facing calls from her own party to resign.

In a Facebook post, Candice Keller, who represents a conservative district near Dayton, where nine people were killed early on Sunday, mused about the causes of mass shootings including: family breakdown and same sex marriage, open borders, sportsmen who disrespect the flag and national anthem, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives, a godless culture, and liberal “snowflakes”.


The Guardian

Kizzy 06-08-2019 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652602)
not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

So all those things could contribute. ... except right wing rhetoric of course? That definately couldn't? . It would be ridiculous to suggest that? :/

Oliver_W 06-08-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10652613)
Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories


The Guardian

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

Kizzy 06-08-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10652632)
I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

The world according to Charles Murray. ..

Oliver_W 06-08-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10652638)
The world according to Charles Murray. ..

Never heard of him.

Twosugars 06-08-2019 12:24 PM

Perhaps now that the stable genius has spoken, and we know he knows the best words, the admin and mods here would consider a quarantine on the video games subforum?
It may reassure our trump supporting members that say Sullen Girl and Toy Soldier are not gonna detonate a nail bomb on the forum? :worry:

Twosugars 06-08-2019 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10652632)
I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

Yes the evil single parents....:umm2:

Niamh. 06-08-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10652561)
Also, Trump can do all the talking he wants about doing something about mental health issues, but his actions don’t match seeing as his administration and the republicans are planning even more cuts to mental health services, so he might say the right things occasionally, but he never does the right thing in practice, he’s a scam artist, always has been, always will be

He's trying to take the focus off guns as per usual. Say what you want about Obama but he atleast spoke out about gun laws and got something done

Kizzy 06-08-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10652639)
Never heard of him.

Google is your friend.

arista 06-08-2019 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10651830)
“Mental illness and hatred pull the trigger, not the gun,” he said.


https://media.breitbart.com/media/20...-1-640x480.jpg

President Donald Trump condemned white supremacy on Monday, calling for
Americans to unite around several proposals to help identify and prevent mass
shootings.


“In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white
supremacy,” Trump said. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate
has no place in America, hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and
devours the soul.”


The president signaled support for stronger laws regulating the Internet,
social media, and violent video games and supported the concept of improved
mental health and “red flag” laws, allowing relatives to recommend court-
ordered seizures of their firearms.



We must recognize that the Internet has provided a dangerous avenue to
radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts,” he said. “We must
shine a light on the dark recesses of the Internet and stop mass murders
before they start.”


Social media, he said, was an “evil contagion” for hatred.


The president also blamed violent and “gruesome and grisly” video games
for contributing to the shootings.



“It is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture
that celebrates violence,” he said. “We must stop or substantially reduce this
and it has to begin immediately.”


Trump also called for stronger mental health laws that would help “better
identify” mentally disturbed individuals capable of mass shootings.


He proposed that new laws could ensure that individuals suffering from mental
health could “not only get treatment but when necessary, involuntary
confinement.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olitics-latest
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ass-shootings/


Yes CNNHD last night had Joe Biden on
but he is all over the place on subjects.


At least Trump has changed his views

The Slim Reaper 06-08-2019 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10652656)
Yes CNNHD last night had Jo Biden on
but he is all over the place on subjects.


At least Trump has changed his views

What views has he changed Arista? Specifically, I mean.

arista 06-08-2019 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10652657)
What views has he changed Arista? Specifically, I mean.


"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

The Slim Reaper 06-08-2019 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10652658)
"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

Ok, we'll see if that's really true, considering he was already back to blaming the media shortly after reading the statement that someone had written for him and bears no resemblance to anything he's ever done. I do like the fact, that by admitting he's changed his views, you're now admitting that Trump promoted white supremacy.

Which does kinda leave me wondering why people on this forum, you included, have gone out of the way to support his agenda?

arista 06-08-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10652665)
Ok, we'll see if that's really true, considering he was already back to blaming the media shortly after reading the statement that someone had written for him and bears no resemblance to anything he's ever done. I do like the fact, that by admitting he's changed his views, you're now admitting that Trump promoted white supremacy.

Which does kinda leave me wondering why people on this forum, you included, have gone out of the way to support his agenda?


Its better than nothing


As for USA Nazi Groups
Trump could not stop them
like the President before him.

Twosugars 06-08-2019 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10652658)
"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

Let's see what he does about it, shall we

These words were not his, they were written for him

arista 06-08-2019 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10652683)
Let's see what he does about it, shall we

These words were not his, they were written for him



Of Course

The Slim Reaper 06-08-2019 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 10652674)
Its better than nothing


As for USA Nazi Groups
Trump could not stop them
like the President before him.

Supporting a white supremacist is better than nothing? We'll have to agree to disagree with that, especially when there is another option.

There is also a difference between trying to combat white nationalists, for which Obama was a target, aided by folks like trump who refused to acknowledge he was even a citizen, and using white nationalist language.

Trump is currently trying to classify Antifa as a terrorist organisation, whilst at the same time tickling the tummys of pepe the frog loving Nazi's on 4chan, who are "good people" according to him.

It's not only Trump that needs to change his views, my friend.

Twosugars 06-08-2019 01:36 PM

Tbh I'm genuinely baffled how otherwise rational people can support this giant orange arsehole...

Nicky91 06-08-2019 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10652709)
Tbh I'm genuinely baffled how otherwise rational people can support this giant orange arsehole...

an arsehole he's not though, he's great at his show the apprentice/celeb apprentice

user104658 06-08-2019 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10652602)
not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

Not all people who eat cheese become astronauts
Not all people who wear socks become astronauts
Not all people who have a nose become astronauts


but some do :worry:

Marsh. 06-08-2019 04:38 PM

So mass shootings are caused by movies and single parents?

So why is America the only place this is happening?

Alf 06-08-2019 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10652815)
So mass shootings are caused by movies and single parents?

So why is America the only place this is happening?

It's not, there was a mass shooting in Cumbria this decade. Some nutcase called Derrick Bird.

Twosugars 06-08-2019 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10652832)
It's not, there was a mass shooting in Cumbria this decade. Some nutcase called Derrick Bird.

How come it's so very rare?

Alf 06-08-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10652835)
How come it's so very rare?

We have less nutters than America.

Marsh. 06-08-2019 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10652832)
It's not, there was a mass shooting in Cumbria this decade. Some nutcase called Derrick Bird.

"This decade".

How many people did he manage to kill compared to in the US and how often does this happen?

Marsh. 06-08-2019 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10652839)
We have less nutters than America.

Nutters slang for guns?

Twosugars 06-08-2019 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 10652839)
We have less nutters than America.

That's statistically unlikely.

Kizzy 06-08-2019 08:51 PM

If this forum is a stratified sample of British society we have waaay more.... :laugh:

GiRTh 06-08-2019 11:49 PM



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