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Cherie 06-02-2020 04:06 PM

Essentially you should do what suits you and your body, I tried the 5/2 but it made me dizzy, the only thing that works for me is less calories, more exercise, trying to eat in moderation and the occasional pig out :hee:

Marsh. 06-02-2020 05:29 PM

Kizzy, do your farts reek?

Zizu 06-02-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10772779)
Essentially you should do what suits you and your body, I tried the 5/2 but it made me dizzy, the only thing that works for me is less calories, more exercise, trying to eat in moderation and the occasional pig out :hee:



That works for some / many ..
The daily fast is completely different to the 5/2 one , of course . The 5/2 didn’t suit me at all as I like routine ..


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Kizzy 06-02-2020 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10772772)
Incidentally Keto is a lot more complex than you know who is suggesting ... many experience varying degrees of keto between 10 and 12 hours ..

Here’s an interesting link as well


https://www.google.com/amp/s/breakin...he-why-and-how



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Who mentioned keto?

Jessica. 07-02-2020 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10773258)
Who mentioned keto?

Fasting puts you into ketosis

Zizu 07-02-2020 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10773258)
Who mentioned keto?



Errrr..... you ?

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10772640)

Burning fat instead of glucose is ketosis, it can take up to 4 days to enter that state.








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Kizzy 07-02-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10772751)
You're being too dogmatic about it imo.
Different strokes for different folks and all that

Not really intermittent fasting does involve eating..minimal amounts but you are eating. Not eating is just fasting.

Kizzy 07-02-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10773277)
Errrr.....




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Right I thought you meant keto as in diet, not being in ketosis. So ' you know who' is me?

Zizu 07-02-2020 04:06 PM

Juice cleanse
 
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10773416)
Not really intermittent fasting does involve eating..minimal amounts but you are eating. Not eating is just fasting.



Seriously you’re just being deliberately obtuse as I suggested previously and you’re just muddying the waters .

You’re just spreading misinformation as regards intermittent fasting .

. For one thing , It’s nothing to do with eating minimal amounts at any time .

I myself consume over 2500 calories - daily - in my five hour window .

I’m done here

If anyone is at all interested in learning the ‘truth’ about intermittent fasting it’s best you simply google .

16/8 Intermittent fasting and read up as much as possible- there are some great YouTube clips as well if you prefer


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Kizzy 18-02-2020 09:37 PM

Josy and I are obtuse because we don't agree going 19hrs without anything is odd?

I've been accused of being dogmatic but you are coming across quite militant imo.

5/2 is a form of IF and you eat very minimally but regularly through the day on that...

I can't see the benefit of eating a days calories in a 5hr window as opposed to spread throughout the day, it is still taxing the body... only it is causing more issues as to process that much food in a small window surely is stressing the functions required for digestion?

Little but often is the choice of athletes and bodybuilders always has been. Therefore I'd say it is you spreading misinformation.

Kizzy 18-02-2020 09:39 PM

I'm still on it btw...started batch making the juice and freezing them MUCH easier :)

Zizu 18-02-2020 09:41 PM

Juice cleanse
 
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10782481)
Josy and I are obtuse because we don't agree going 19hrs without anything is odd?

I've been accused of being dogmatic but you are coming across quite militant imo.

5/2 is a form of IF and you eat very minimally but regularly through the day on that...

I can't see the benefit of eating a days calories in a 5hr window as opposed to spread throughout the day, it is still taxing the body... only it is causing more issues as to process that much food in a small window surely is stressing the functions required for digestion?

Little but often is the choice of athletes and bodybuilders always has been. Therefore I'd say it is you spreading misinformation.



Then again only one of us ( me) has actually researched the subject and thrived on doing it for nearly five years ..

My comment about you being obtuse wasn’t to to with you not agreeing with anything.. . you just need to brush up on your reading comprehension..


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Marsh. 18-02-2020 09:48 PM

"thrived"

Zizu 18-02-2020 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10782496)
"thrived"



... and yet you continue to follow me around from thread to thread just to bait .


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Marsh. 18-02-2020 10:00 PM

Pot. Kettle. Black.

user104658 18-02-2020 10:38 PM

Meh. All anyone needs to do is cut wheat and refined sugars + dairy IF you have any degree of intolerance (which many do).

Sadly, wheat, refined sugars and dairy are literally the three most tastiest food groups :think:

Zizu 18-02-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10782546)
Meh. All anyone needs to do is cut wheat and refined sugars + dairy IF you have any degree of intolerance (which many do).

Sadly, wheat, refined sugars and dairy are literally the three most tastiest food groups :think:



Wise , wise words indeed !!


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Kizzy 19-02-2020 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10782546)
Meh. All anyone needs to do is cut wheat and refined sugars + dairy IF you have any degree of intolerance (which many do).

Sadly, wheat, refined sugars and dairy are literally the three most tastiest food groups :think:

Any food can be tasty, what you mean is most processed foods contain those things. Cheers sherlock for pointing out the obvious that Lazy convenience foods aren't healthy.

Josy 19-02-2020 07:35 PM

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Marsh. 19-02-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10783002)
Any food can be tasty

That doesn't stop one group from being tastIEST.

Kizzy 19-02-2020 07:53 PM

What is tasty is subjective, fats are tasty meh, all you have to do is cut out fats then, when did the conversation switch to food intolerances, how is that relevant to this discussion?

How is wheat tasty?... :/

Marsh. 19-02-2020 07:53 PM

Yeah TS, don't come in here with your food talk.

Twosugars 19-02-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10783002)
Any food can be tasty, what you mean is most processed foods contain those things. Cheers sherlock for pointing out the obvious that Lazy convenience foods aren't healthy.

True, but physiologically we are programmed to find high energy food the tastiest for survival reasons.
They also give you better sense of being sated. Again physiology.

Twosugars 19-02-2020 07:55 PM

Low energy food will be digested faster so hunger returns faster

Kizzy 19-02-2020 07:57 PM

2013, 04:29 AM* #1

Kizzy

Cool mom

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Join Date: Jan 2012

Posts: 38,512


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Total Awards: 4


*The 5-2 thread

Anyone tried this diet? I have a couple of times, it's hard but something I think you get used to when you have a few dishes down that fit in with the calorie restrictions.

Also called the fast diet it was made popular following a BBC documentary Horizon presented by Dr Micheal Mosely.

The focus is on intermittent fasting, for 2 days a week (non consecutive) you restrict your calorie intake to 600 cals for men and 500 for women.

Sounds easy... It isn't, but I'm having another go.*
Anyone else willing to give it a go?*

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/the-fast-diet-quickly/

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Last edited by Kizzy; 05-09-2013 at*05:06 AM.

Here I am raising a discussion on IF 7yrs ago....so forgive me if I have an opinion on this topic, I too have spent a lot of time researching this topic. It's rather rude to suggest you are the forum oracle on any given topic.


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Kizzy 19-02-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10783026)
Yeah TS, don't come in here with your food talk.

At least attempt some conext though.... saying meh and reeling off some food groups isn't really saying a lot is it?

Zizu 19-02-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10783031)
2013, 04:29 AM* #1

Kizzy

Cool mom

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Join Date: Jan 2012

Posts: 38,512


****
Total Awards: 4


*The 5-2 thread

Anyone tried this diet? I have a couple of times, it's hard but something I think you get used to when you have a few dishes down that fit in with the calorie restrictions.

Also called the fast diet it was made popular following a BBC documentary Horizon presented by Dr Micheal Mosely.

The focus is on intermittent fasting, for 2 days a week (non consecutive) you restrict your calorie intake to 600 cals for men and 500 for women.

Sounds easy... It isn't, but I'm having another go.*
Anyone else willing to give it a go?*

http://thefastdiet.co.uk/the-fast-diet-quickly/

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Last edited by Kizzy; 05-09-2013 at*05:06 AM.

Here I am raising a discussion on IF 7yrs ago....so forgive me if I have an opinion on this topic, I too have spent a lot of time researching this topic. It's rather rude to suggest you are the forum oracle on any given topic.


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What the hell just happened :)


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Marsh. 19-02-2020 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10783035)
At least attempt some conext though.... saying meh and reeling off some food groups isn't really saying a lot is it?

I thought he did. He offered his thoughts on methods of achieving what you're attempting with your juice cleanse. :shrug:

Kizzy 19-02-2020 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10783056)
I thought he did. He offered his thoughts on methods of achieving what you're attempting with your juice cleanse. :shrug:

The two are not comparable so how could they have the same outcome?
I never mentioned food intolerances, that has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.

Zizu 05-03-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10782481)


I can't see the benefit of eating a days calories in a 5hr window as opposed to spread throughout the day, it is still taxing the body... only it is causing more issues as to process that much food in a small window surely is stressing the functions required for digestion?

Little but often is the choice of athletes and bodybuilders always has been. Therefore I'd say it is you spreading misinformation.


https://youtu.be/Sgeh2w0j51w




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smudgie 05-03-2020 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10783011)

Now that’s a diet I can stick to.

user104658 06-03-2020 10:41 AM

Kizzy hasn't posted for a few days, has her juice cleanse rendered her too weak to type :worry:

Marsh. 06-03-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10783086)
The two are not comparable so how could they have the same outcome?
I never mentioned food intolerances, that has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.

:rant:

arista 06-03-2020 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10792435)
Kizzy hasn't posted for a few days, has her juice cleanse rendered her too weak to type :worry:


She does not post every day nowday's
so I am sure she get off of this Dangerous Juice Fad

Kizzy 06-03-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10792227)
https://youtu.be/Sgeh2w0j51w




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This is what i would call misinformation. ..As I have shown I was an advocate of intermittent fasting 7yrs ago... in a controlled way.
Making yourself 'hangry' and releasing too many ketones is not healthy, especially when like me you work 12hr a day, drive and such... it's just not safe to do that.

I've just done a month on just juice, now I'm adding in a v low carb evening meal.

Kizzy 06-03-2020 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10792449)
She does not post every day nowday's
so I am sure she get off of this Dangerous Juice Fad

It's not a fad if done correctly, I feel perfectly fine thank you. Funny how eating a big sweaty kebab or swilling 10 pints isn't classed as a dangerous fad but this is? ....hmm

caprimint 06-03-2020 12:26 PM

Omg congrats Kizzy :clap1: That's amazing, I don't think I could even go a week

How are you feeling?? Has it been hard at all and have you wanted to eat any sort of food?

arista 06-03-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792494)
It's not a fad if done correctly, I feel perfectly fine thank you. Funny how eating a big sweaty kebab or swilling 10 pints isn't classed as a dangerous fad but this is? ....hmm


Yes it takes time to do internal damage,
A Balanced Food is all you need


Do not eat Kebabs

Zizu 06-03-2020 07:30 PM

Juice cleanse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10792494)
It's not a fad if done correctly, I feel perfectly fine thank you.



Sounds like everything you decide to try is safe and advisable yet you dismiss any other suggestions as disinformation even when it comes from doctors or health specialists..


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caprimint 06-03-2020 08:00 PM

God y’all are so negative


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