Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847670)

His outright lies are down to the press? No.

The press are many things, they are not responsible for Cumming's words and actions and even more not to blame for Boris Johnson's utter contempt for the people he is supposed to be serving.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847683)

Boris always looks like he's just rolled out of bed after a late one on the Xbox and downed a red bull before leaving the house so I wouldn't be surprised.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847686)

Boris has served us well so far during his tenure as pm..

Cummings was forced into a corner by a hungry press desperate for something to latch onto, unfortunately he took the decision hundreds of thousands of families in the same position would have, and should have.

These people are humans you know, they do love people and make them the centre of their universe like the rest of us.

Perhaps what he said were lies in his circumstances, but imo alone it seems..a family that could do that would and infact should .they came into contact as a family unit with nobody else after all.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847688)

I hope you ain't looking horizontal in a box if you catch corona marsh. I really mean that.

Slams pint on bar and walks out the virtual pub.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847695)

A lot of words making someone's selfish actions, disregard for his position in the government, and utter contempt for the British public everyone's issue except his own. All to allow the government to wriggle out of owning up to their own actions?

"These people are humans" are they? Well at least he might be able to relate to a fraction of the pain his "guidelines that actually don't mean much" have caused to innumerable people across the country that now holds one of the worst Covid death tolls in the world. I'm sure the fact that Cummings is human (apparently) will make up for the sacrifices they made, which he took the absolute piss out of in his shambles of a live broadcast.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10847664)

They both admitted that what she had done was wrong and stupid and she apologised profusely - Sturgeon wanted her to stay on because we were in the midst of a pandemic and she felt that the disruption would be bad for the country.

I personally would NOT be calling for any resignations IF Cummings had just ****ing admitted that he was being a bit selfish and acted outside the rules, admitted that it was going directly against the government lockdown guidelines, and gave a genuine apology. I know that wouldn't be enough for a lot of people but for me, that would be it. A "meh, whatever" after that. But no it's been utterly ridiculous lie after lie, dumb fairytales about his eyesight that we're supposed to believe, and an attempt to rewrite history to say that the rules were never what we thought they were. That is the problem here. It's not that he went on a drive or toddled off out to a castle for his wife's birthday. It's that the elected government of this country is happy to treat their voters, and the whole public, like unfathomably gullible idiots. It's a lack of respect that's verging on contempt. It shows such a willingness to lie and twist things to suit themselves that every single citizen of this country should be worried about it.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847699)

Family comes first, why wouldn't it is my question to you?

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847699)

And the death toll would have been maybe ten grand more had we all stayed out

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847699)

Family comes first, why wouldn't it is my question to you?


And the death toll would have been maybe ten grand more had we all stayed out

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847695)

A lot of words making someone's selfish actions, disregard for his position in the government, and utter contempt for the British public everyone's issue except his own. All to allow the government to wriggle out of owning up to their own actions?

"These people are humans" are they? Well at least he might be able to relate to a fraction of the pain his "guidelines that actually don't mean much" have caused to innumerable people across the country that now holds one of the worst Covid death tolls in the world. I'm sure the fact that Cummings is human (apparently) will make up for the sacrifices they made, which he took the absolute piss out of in his shambles of a live broadcast.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847702)

Why wouldn't a family outing come before people's lives during a pandemic?
Take a wild guess.



Had we all been out for day trips like Cummings you mean? Yes, exactly.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847707)

No that's not what I mean.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10847706)

Family does come first indeed.....its a shame that so many people's family members died alone because people adhered to Cummings preachings about staying home....so many people.were denied the right to mourn their loved ones due to restrictions on funerals.....but good ole Dom boy could trot off to mummy and daddy's estate because he felt a lickle bit poorly. Bull****.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847714)

Had dominic or his wife or child had died they would also have been denied the right to say goodbye so they did all they could whilst keeping other members of the public safe...if that's bull**** then I find your comments crass and heartless to people that have had to endure that.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847716)

"If they'd died..." is an excuse for breaking lockdown guidelines and then lying about it. You need to think that one through again. The only danger to their lives was Cummings getting behind the wheel of a car with bad eyesight, allegedly.

Maybe go back to "He's a human", that one was working. Kind of.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10847718)

Can you let other people that the reply is directed at answer first please..you make me lose my train of thought.and I'm fed up with it.

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10847720)

I'm impressed you have a train of thought going on with the drivel you're posting in this thread.

FYI, you want a private conversation? Take it to PM. :thumbs:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10847819)

In all seriousness though, Zizu, why do you copy and past the same post into multiple threads? You've posted this one on I think four threads?

Literally no one else does it :think:. If you can't be arsed to write more than one post, stick to one thread. It's just spam at this point.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10849483)

Ok ... I’m done here

You win




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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10849488)

No need to go Zizu, there aren’t that many people on here and when threads are bumped the posts are read, it can be a little annoying to see a thread bumped and then find its the same post you have just read, your thought are always very welcome

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10849496)

Thank you for your kind words..

It’s probably time for me to take a break from here .. I have Aspergers which in my case comes with some positives but many more negatives ( including obsessiveness and over- thinking issues )

I’m finding coping with the virus situation and all that it entails extremely stressful.


Where’s the problem if a certain post/topic applies to two or more different threads often populated /seen by different groups of people .


It’s disappointing that people like myself ( Aspergers types ) are constantly being hounded out of threads and even forums just because of our obsessive ways and the way we come at issues from different angles as as such often have different viewpoints ( normally in the minority of course ) .

Maybe one day our society will be more tolerant or even sympathetic to our issues and foibles .






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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10849516)

I'd hardly call one forum member pointing out you'd copied and pasted the same post in different threads is "hounded".

Probs best take a break, get a fresh perspective. You'll be fine. :thumbs:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10849508)

Nobody knew you were aspergers Zizu, so we are taking you at face value, now you have explained it, I guess I can tolerate the multi posting :shrug:



If you feel you need to take a break though, mentally that can be a good thing x

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 10849558)

I may well do as things are very soon going to be getting far more difficult at work ( school) .

Having Aspergers is a great benefit when supporting young teenagers with autism or Aspergers as I generally know how they’re feeling and how to keep their stress levels under control ....but oddly enough I don’t manage my own stress levels quite as well ..


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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10849570)

Cherie makes us all feel like that, you'll be fine compadre.