Easy for them
Full 5G
in South Korea
superfast tracking.

They manufactured Millions of Tests Kits

The UK is nothing like that

For reference

London is also the most populous and most visited city in Europe and the UK as a whole is one of the most densely populated countries along with the Netherlands and Belgium who are experiencing similar problems to us

I’d say Seoul is fast becoming a top tourist destination with the growth of KPop, KMovies & KEntertainment

More so that just shows the UK should have acted faster and closed its borders
So what you’re saying is, people in Britain are dying because they don’t follow rules but people in Korea do? Therefore it is their own fault and not the governments for failing to act quicker? :facepalm:

When Korea say lock down it means like down and people wont go out.

In this country local down means lockdown till the sunshine and thousands go out breaking the rules

It might be rising but it gets nowhere near the same visitor figures

Seoul 2019 17 million
London 2019 30 million

Although I do think the UK should adopt the Korean national service system as it will knock the trouble makers into shape

Well then the government need to impose stricter conditions then, you can’t say this is inevitable when it clearly isn’t, the government should have done more. They are to blame not people’s ignorance to the rules

:facepalm:

It's not actually that simple though, SK have a larger number of labs for testing per population so they had the ability to carry out more tests, faster. You can't just "test more" without the lab capacity or an instant test.

And yet by the end of the month we will be doing 100k tests a day?

There was time to prepare for this and it was not used properly

That Chart Shows Smithy is Wrong,


His title is wrong

As has been said London has a lot of international travel in and out the city, which would have meant more starting cases. When you combine that with its large population living in a small area, using public transport etc. it means the virus spreads faster.

It's easy to cherry pick examples of other countries response and say this is what works. However there's differences between countries that can't be explained. For instance Japan hasn't done much testing, no national lockdown, high population density and a lot of transport with China, yet not many cases.

I read somewhere, by the way, that Belgium are reporting figures differently, including deaths in the community as well as hospitals, which is different to most countries.

South Korea was affected by the SARS outbreak, which caused them create more testing capacity, and meant they were better prepared for testing now. So I read anyway.

Also SK stuck a travel ban on China, which we should have done but the shouts of racists would have drowned that out

Nonsense, if it had been to stop the spread of disease the number of people calling it racist would have been small and, also, from the section of the political spectrum that the Conservative government doesnt care about the opinions of.

We didn't put a travel ban on China because the government had a lot invested in the hopes of post-Brexit trade agreements with China, the 5G network, and various other large scale economic projects closely linked to China.

USA has now overtaken Italy
Not the UK

USA : 20,071
Italy:19,468

Its not nonsense they could have stuck a non essential travel ban on China, pretty sure Donald did and I dont agree with much he does, but there were the usual murmerings ....

Needs to be some questions asked there imo.

comparing countries as if they have the same populations, distributions, care of elderly, health care, travel hubs etc etc

is about as useless as knitting fog

please stay away from facebook and twitter as it is exposing people on a daily basis and in hideous ways

We were well aware of the possibilities of a pandemic, the findings of an excersise were fresh in the mind.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.lbc...r-coronavirus/

Donald was in the midst of a trade war with China spanning years and has been critical of the US economy's reliance on Chinese manufacturing since the start of his term. The UK, thanks to Brexit, has been openly, and desperately, seeking trade deals and agreements from non-EU sources. Boris has been very, very keen to forge strong links with China to the extent that he even flat out refused best-buddy-Trump when Trump strongly suggested that the UK should abandon its 5G infrastructure deal with Huawei.

The reason the UK government was hesitant to close off travel to and from China was purely diplomatic. It was PR.

You are not getting it are you... Donald has no need to trade with China, yet slapping a travel ban earned him a racist tag even though it was done to prevent the transmission, yet you say if the UK slapped a travel ban..no one would have objected on the grounds of race..I dont think that’s right

Donny slapped a travel ban on China when it had already spread to most of Europe and given the situation in the US now, it didn't do much good did it? He also (very briefly) put a travel ban on most of Europe but not the UK, because "the UK didn't have many cases", when the UK had more cases than most other European countries.

Trumps gets called racist because he is racist.

100% Trump acted too late , and it hardly did any good.

The deluded idiot wanted people to freely go out at Easter without any safety measures :crazy:, they have the worst person in charge over there he's completely nuts! .

And he keeps pushing for an early lift from lockdown, but there's already places in America with people crowded who don't give a damn . New York is affected the most I think . He doesn't care .

Trump was and still is completely out of his depth on dealing with covid, that's the simple truth. He doesn't know what to do

He is letting his Team of doctors & advisers direct it

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Trump put the ban on travel from China in place on Feb 2nd so it was very early in the crisis - UK and Italy both only had 2 cases at that point so it hadn't really got a foothold in Europe then

Yes he was Bang on Right

I dont get the criticism of the government (not just ours) they make decisions based on scientific and medical information that comes from advisors. The whole world is dealing with a new pandemic and working with very little information so I think the government are doing the best they can whilst navigating through uncharted water, it could have been anyone in charge and they would be blamed for the situation we have found ourselves in so instead of trying to find blame we should all be doing our part to get through this.

I just think it is a force of nature at this point, and governments are having to play it by ear to some degree.

my mom is against our dutch government, our RIVM

honestly i'm not complaining against their actions, people first disobeyed advice to stay home here, but now majority of people here stay home


Germany has reopened certain stores again, whilst also still giving necessary advice to stay home, they even go to live broadcasting a ''easter at home special, things to do at home around easter time'' quite a few germans who usually come to Netherlands here they decide to stay home and listen to advice


our local radio Omroep Brabant plays loads of cheerful, bit party music to spread more positivity among people here, since many music festivals have been cancelled here too

one mayor of a town schijndel who was disappointed in cancelling easterpop music festival, he did request the radio to host a sort of top 40 line up of rock/alternative rock songs what usually is played at easterpop, he also had a cake being delivered at omroep brabant studio, just for their efforts during this crisis so far :love:

When it all got serious the political parties all agreed to work together and put ‘political point scoring’ on hold .. but now the new Labour leader has to make an impression he’s said he won’t hesitate to criticise any decisions and that useless shadow health minister yesterday was happy to criticise most of the decisions taken so far ..

Predictable but sooo disappointing


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governments are having to react to events rather than drive them, so it's a different scenario from all of them.

We didn't react too late in locking down, because the fundamental fact is that the virus has to get to a certain stage before a lockdown becomes effective. Do it too soon and people will just ignore it.

The lack of PPE is a dreadful situation, but there isn't a government in the world that was prepared for that one

The death figures will be what they will be, that may sound very harsh, but its a fact. No country is out the woods on this until its under control world wide, so saying 1 country is better than another over a particular week/month will mean nothing in the long term

Wise words indeed


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UK deaths: ~26,000
Italy deaths ~27,000

Thoughts on this @ everyone on the first page

Italy hasn't added the care home and community deaths have they?

Neither have we yet.

The 26,000 includes care home deaths

Right thought that was from tomorrow but no it was today. That does not mean the UK won't pass Italy in the mortality rate for Covid 19, most experts in a Europe are suggesting that's a given now.