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Tom4784 02-10-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10926172)
I'm sure as no-one here is a psychopath, we all wish him a speedy recovery.

I don't, he is responsible for 200k deaths in the US due to denying and downplaying the virus and through spreading misinformation and trying to turn a pandemic into a political battleground. The man is a mass murderer at this point, **** wishing him well, my sympathy is with the people who have died because of him.

arista 02-10-2020 02:21 PM

This has made the Markets go down
they do not like surprises.

caprimint 02-10-2020 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10926249)
Well, Arista does have a point ... Trump has been so respectful toward Biden :joker:

They're both equally as respectful to each other...

bots 02-10-2020 02:36 PM

i wouldn't lose any sleep if he were to get seriously ill

MTVN 02-10-2020 02:56 PM

Let's hope death also comes to the leaders of France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, India, Mexico, Peru, Iran, Belgium, the UK etc etc I guess

Jordan. 02-10-2020 03:04 PM

https://i.imgur.com/cPTqazH.gif

Tom4784 02-10-2020 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10926376)
Let's hope death also comes to the leaders of France, Spain, Italy, Brazil, India, Mexico, Peru, Iran, Belgium, the UK etc etc I guess

If any world leader endangered their people like Trump has, then they deserve no sympathy.

Also your comparison is flawed since no countries, even when you adjust to ratios, has suffered losses like the US. Trump's deadly incompetence has been catastrophic for the US and there should be no defending it no matter which side of the political spectrum you fall on.

MTVN 02-10-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10926397)
If any world leader endangered their people like Trump has, then they deserve no sympathy.

Also your comparison is flawed since no countries, even when you adjust to ratios, has suffered losses like the US. Trump's deadly incompetence has been catastrophic for the US and there should be no defending it no matter which side of the political spectrum you fall on.

Several countries have suffered more deaths per capita including half of the ones I mentioned there. Belgium have one of the worst in the world under a female, liberal leader.

Tom4784 02-10-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10926406)
Several countries have suffered more deaths per capita including half of the ones I mentioned there. Belgium have one of the worst in the world under a female, liberal leader.

Then **** her too for being incompetent. It's a bit strange that you mention her being female and liberal though, are you suggesting that's why she is incompetent? Are you trying to be like 'Look, the other side is incompetent too!' because either is a grim take to have.

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 03:41 PM

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who recovered after contracting the virus earlier in the year, tweeted, “My best wishes to President Trump and the First Lady. Hope they both have a speedy recovery from coronavirus.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on Twitter, “Like millions of Israelis, Sara (Netanyahu’s wife) and I are thinking of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery.”

In his get well soon message, Polish President Andrzej Duda tweeted: “Our good wishes for speedy recovery to our Friends… Poland and USA will get through the hardships and succeed in fighting COVID19.”

European Council President Charles Michel wrote on Twitter: “Wishing @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS a speedy recovery. COVIDー19 is a battle we all continue to fight. Everyday. No matter where we live.”

World Health Organization Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, also tweeted “My best wishes to President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS for a full and speedy recovery.”

US Vice President Mike Pence was one of the earliest well-wishers. “Karen and I send our love and prayers to our dear friends President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS Melania Trump. We join millions across America praying for their full and swift recovery. God bless you President Trump & our wonderful First Lady Melania, ” he twitted at about 2am Friday.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.ph...to-trump-wife/

World leaders flocking to wish DOnald and his wife well :clap1:

MTVN 02-10-2020 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10926416)
Then **** her too for being incompetent. It's a bit strange that you mention her being female and liberal though, are you suggesting that's why she is incompetent? Are you trying to be like 'Look, the other side is incompetent too!' because either is a grim take to have.

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

Not at all, I was pointing out that leaders of all backgrounds have struggled to confront this pandemic and that maybe we should all be a little bit more humble about the challenges they've had to face and refrain from wishing death on them - that really is a grim reaction to the biggest challenge humanity has faced in a century

Nicky91 02-10-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10926424)
British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who recovered after contracting the virus earlier in the year, tweeted, “My best wishes to President Trump and the First Lady. Hope they both have a speedy recovery from coronavirus.”

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wrote on Twitter, “Like millions of Israelis, Sara (Netanyahu’s wife) and I are thinking of President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump and wish our friends a full and speedy recovery.”

In his get well soon message, Polish President Andrzej Duda tweeted: “Our good wishes for speedy recovery to our Friends… Poland and USA will get through the hardships and succeed in fighting COVID19.”

European Council President Charles Michel wrote on Twitter: “Wishing @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS a speedy recovery. COVIDー19 is a battle we all continue to fight. Everyday. No matter where we live.”

World Health Organization Chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, also tweeted “My best wishes to President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS for a full and speedy recovery.”

US Vice President Mike Pence was one of the earliest well-wishers. “Karen and I send our love and prayers to our dear friends President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS Melania Trump. We join millions across America praying for their full and swift recovery. God bless you President Trump & our wonderful First Lady Melania, ” he twitted at about 2am Friday.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.ph...to-trump-wife/

World leaders flocking to wish DOnald and his wife well :clap1:

yes Germany's Merkel, and our PM Rutte as well

Mitchell 02-10-2020 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10926416)
l

This is a pandemic, I don't care about a leader's political leaning, I only care whether they are handling the situation in a competent manner, perhaps you should strive to do the same rather than trying to defend gross incompetence based on whether the leader is right wing or not.

:clap1: it’s not about politics, it’s about human decency and actually trying to help the people you’re supposed to be representing, rather than risking their lives for political gain.

Tom4784 02-10-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10926427)
Not at all, I was pointing out that leaders of all backgrounds have struggled to confront this pandemic and that maybe we should all be a little bit more humble about the challenges they've had to face and refrain from wishing death on them - that really is a grim reaction to the biggest challenge humanity has faced in a century

What's grim is you trying to group in Trump with the rest of the leaders, tbh. He is not a man struggling to solve the problem that is the pandemic, he's content with trampling over the dead and pretending it's not a problem. He is not breaking his back trying to solve the problem, he's going to lengths to deny and downplay and push a fake cure to help his son's stock portfolio.

I have sympathy for world leaders that are doing their best, there's plenty of countries that have been hit hard yet are holding their own like Japan and Korea who are right next to China, yet they've kept a hold of things through quick action and by tackling the problem head on.

Any leader that downplayed and dismissed the virus despite advance warnings is grossly incompetent and a danger to their people. Trump is the president, it's his incompetence that has led to the 200k+ deaths that the US has suffered.

Elliot 02-10-2020 03:58 PM

Trump isn’t going to die because he’s going to receive the most prime healthcare while Americans don’t even get access to basic health care and are dying right under his nose, directly as a result of a bs system his politics perpetuate

MTVN 02-10-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10926441)
What's grim is you trying to group in Trump with the rest of the leaders, tbh. He is not a man struggling to solve the problem that is the pandemic, he's content with trampling over the dead and pretending it's not a problem. He is not breaking his back trying to solve the problem, he's going to lengths to deny and downplay and push a fake cure to help his son's stock portfolio.

I have sympathy for world leaders that are doing their best, there's plenty of countries that have been hit hard yet are holding their own like Japan and Korea who are right next to China, yet they've kept a hold of things through quick action and by tackling the problem head on.

Any leader that downplayed and dismissed the virus despite advance warnings is grossly incompetent and a danger to their people. Trump is the president, it's his incompetence that has led to the 200k+ deaths that the US has suffered.

So Trump is uniquely mishandling it then despite other countries faring worse? Got it

Sure there's a lot of mistakes in there and of course many mistakes have been made at a local level in the US where governors etc. have more control over what happens in their area really than the President does. Where does the list of 'people who deserve to die because of their response to Covid' end though? Better off not having one in the first place imo

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot (Post 10926443)
Trump isn’t going to die because he’s going to receive the most prime healthcare while Americans don’t even get access to basic health care and are dying right under his nose, directly as a result of a bs system his politics perpetuate

its a system Americans vote for and Americans think our NHS is crazy and would never vote for it in a month of sundays

Tom4784 02-10-2020 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10926444)
So Trump is uniquely mishandling it then despite other countries faring worse? Got it

Sure there's a lot of mistakes in there and of course many mistakes have been made at a local level in the US where governors etc. have more control over what happens in their area really than the President does. Where does the list of 'people who deserve to die because of their response to Covid' end though? Better off not having one in the first place imo

Trump denied the virus was a thing even though he and other world leaders were warned about it weeks before it became a pandemic. He spread discord, he pushed hydroxychloroquine because of his family's business interests and he made out that the 'fuss' surrounding it was a left wing ploy. It's no coincidence that the worst hit states are red states and counties within them that are run by Trump allies.

So yes, you've got it right. Trump is rather unque but not alone (oh hi, Jair Bolsonero!) in his incompetence and it certainly impacts my empathy for him when hundreds of thousands of families have lost loved ones due to his incompetence and influence.

I implore you to let your political biases slide and simply criticise Trump for his mishandling of the situation rather then try to defend him out of Right Wing solidarity. This isn't an issue about left or right (although you certainly tried with your example in the post about the liberal leader), it's about who is handling the virus well and my sympathy will never be with those leaders who are not, my heart will go out only to those who have lost their lives or family due to the virus, not the people in charge who let it get this bad.

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 04:21 PM

Good news he only has mild symptoms so far

caprimint 02-10-2020 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10926470)
Good news he only has mild symptoms so far

Trump to set records of the quickest recovery EVER? :dance:

Nicky91 02-10-2020 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10926470)
Good news he only has mild symptoms so far

you can't say anything by now, you can only now after a week if he'll develop symptoms, and what kind, if it are mild symptoms or worse

MTVN 02-10-2020 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10926467)
Trump denied the virus was a thing even though he and other world leaders were warned about it weeks before it became a pandemic. He spread discord, he pushed hydroxychloroquine because of his family's business interests and he made out that the 'fuss' surrounding it was a left wing ploy. It's no coincidence that the worst hit states are red states and counties within them that are run by Trump allies.

So yes, you've got it right. Trump is rather unque but not alone (oh hi, Jair Bolsonero!) in his incompetence and it certainly impacts my empathy for him when hundreds of thousands of families have lost loved ones due to his incompetence and influence.

I implore you to let your political biases slide and simply criticise Trump for his mishandling of the situation rather then try to defend him out of Right Wing solidarity. This isn't an issue about left or right (although you certainly tried with your example in the post about the liberal leader), it's about who is handling the virus well and my sympathy will never be with those leaders who are not, my heart will go out only to those who have lost their lives or family due to the virus, not the people in charge who let it get this bad.

I havent defended his handling nor did I criticise other leaders who have similarly struggled to contain the pandemic. I'm not the one wishing death on people for it. My point was not trying to make it right vs left but the contrary (that there's not much correlation between political leanings and success against the virus), was just interested to see who made your list of people who's Covid policy meant they deserved death.

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10926480)
you can't say anything by now, you can only now after a week if he'll develop symptoms, and what kind, if it are mild symptoms or worse

I cant but The WHite House can

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54391986

Jake. 02-10-2020 04:33 PM

Wasn’t it only four years ago he was mocking Hilary’s pneumonia?

Nicky91 02-10-2020 04:47 PM

Biden has tested negative


so that is what the difference makes between wearing a mask or not

Nicky91 02-10-2020 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10926483)
It’s really gross that some members are wishing death on leaders/people.

That used to be a banable offence... I guess if it’s trump or certain people then it’s okay :shrug:

I hope he recovers well, I wouldn’t wish unwell on any US/U.K. politician, using your left/right wing stance or your political stance to wish death upon others is not acceptable at all and People that have these views have a very worrying and unhealthy outlook on life/politics

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 10926489)
It’s incredibly worrying. What’s next, someone says something non PC in 5 years, let’s kill them? They deserve death?? In 50 years, I don’t like their song.. hope they perish!

It’s scary that people cant disagree with Politics/views without wishing Ill harm on opposing views/topical issues.

Much respect for joeySteele for not wishing harm on one of his political enemies, he shows a good leave of maturity and is able to seperate personal from political. People can certainly learn from him.

i would never wish death on anyone, i just myself do not sympathize for trump now, i more sympathize for Melania

politics, news has really gone backwards with the too PC culture i agree :(


anyway your posts Douglas +100

caprimint 02-10-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 10926496)
Biden has tested negative


so that is what the difference makes between wearing a mask or not

No it doesn't. If anything, it would mean vice versa since Biden wears a mask everywhere.

Masks don't stop YOU from catching corona.

Liam- 02-10-2020 05:10 PM

Trump - refuses to wear a mask, doesn’t make his team or his family wear masks, refuses to socially distance, holds rallies where people are encouraged to not socially distance and not wear masks if they don’t want to - catches COVID

Biden - wears a mask everywhere, his team wears masks, he encourages his supporters to wear masks and social distance, holds socially distanced press conferences, not packed rallies due to health concerns - doesn’t catch COVID

Trumps entire ‘he looks weak and stupid in his mask!’ campaign gets washed down the drain

Mitchell 02-10-2020 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10926521)
Trump - refuses to wear a mask, doesn’t make his team or his family wear masks, refuses to socially distance, holds rallies where people are encouraged to not socially distance and not wear masks if they don’t want to - catches COVID

Biden - wears a mask everywhere, his team wears masks, he encourages his supporters to wear masks and social distance, holds socially distanced press conferences, not packed rallies due to health concerns - doesn’t catch COVID

Trumps entire ‘he looks weak and stupid in his mask!’ campaign gets washed down the drain

It’s his own fault really

caprimint 02-10-2020 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 10926536)
It’s his own fault really

So you think everybody who has died, it's their own fault?

Really dumb, awful and disgusting comment to make...

Liam- 02-10-2020 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 10926536)
It’s his own fault really

Pretty much yeah, it’s just a shame he’s inspired so many people to act the same way because they idolise him, imagine how many people would still be alive today if he had been more responsible

caprimint 02-10-2020 05:29 PM

Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

bots 02-10-2020 05:29 PM

we all know what we need to do to protect others and ourselves from covid and Trump was negligent in that encouraging others not to follow basic measures and mocking those who did follow the rules. It's negligent, and he certainly didnt help protect himself or his family

Mitchell 02-10-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10926537)
So you think everybody who has died, it's their own fault?

Really dumb, awful and disgusting comment to make...

No, not at all.

But if someone constantly goes against scientific advice and uses their power and platform to mock mask wearers, doesn’t social distance, holds rallies of thousands of their cult members not social distanced or wearing masks, let’s the virus spread further as a direct consequence of their actions and then catches COVID, a virus they were calling a hoax months ago, then they are to blame.

AnnieK 02-10-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10926539)
Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

So how many others will he have passed it to by refusing to wear one?

I hope he recovers quickly and does not get severe symptoms but sees the importance of measures put in place to protect people.

Mitchell 02-10-2020 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10926543)
So how many others will he have passed it to by refusing to wear one?

I hope he recovers quickly and does not get severe symptoms but sees the importance of measures put in place to protect people.

This post sums my opinions on this topic up perfectly, I hope this alerts people to the seriousness of this virus and that some good comes out of it with further awareness.

Samm 02-10-2020 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10926506)
Masks don't stop YOU from catching corona.

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Originally Posted by caprimint (Post 10926539)
Funny that people think it's "Trump's fault" when actually no, it relies on others to wear masks, not him :skull:

BIASED TILL THE END!

So you agree? Masks stop you from catching corona?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/.../652/agree.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 02-10-2020 06:02 PM

utterly disgusting
 




:skull:

caprimint 02-10-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Samm (Post 10926569)
So you agree? Masks stop you from catching corona?

Never. Masks do **** all and should not be a thing.

caprimint 02-10-2020 06:07 PM

Nigel Farage spilling how vile people are :clap1: Again, not shocking but we DO LOVE to see it to expose those nasty ones that people couldn't see beforehand :flutter:


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