Just because I'm a bit paranoid. I know it's all nonsensical but people referring to it as a death jab etc does get to me

Had mine and it was fine :shrug:

I will get it. I don't know when because if we look at how it's going right now, I probably will be vaccinated in 2034 since Macron is taking his time as if we haven't lost a lot of it already. :shrug:

You'll be fine lovely ~ relax and its a tiny pin prick and you're done, i can't wait to get mine, soon i hope.

I do feel for you , its bad how the EU have cocked right up and its the people that will suffer and i hope you get vaccinated way way way before 2034 ~ like later this year.

:laugh:

Do we know if it is better to get Pfizer or Oxford?

Both Great Aunts (80+) and my sister (front line worker) have had their first dose and my Dad got the appointment letter today to go for his next week.

Getting there slowly but surely...

My Nan is having hers on Saturday. My mum is having it in a few weeks too I think. My other half is having his in a few weeks too with his sister, and when the time comes I will definitely be having it. I can see people having genuine, unselfish issues with having it but I just want this **** over and done with now.

...I understand you feeling uncertainty, Daniel...because this whole world that we’re living has obviously created our environments to create uncertain and scary etc so that’s the place we all live in...but try not to worry about which one you’ll get because they’ll all bring us closer..(..hopefully...)...to freedoms and contact returning and a more safe and healthy world...you’ll be fine, my love and it’s a step toward what we’ve all been hoping for..:hug:...

...:love:..great news to feel it getting closer, eh Glenn...

we just have to be patient with our great EU :love:

It depends; if it turns you into an "immune carrier" I probably wouldn't bother - I don't care that much if I get Covid, but I don't want to be protected while also possibly spreading it to my family.

You could be asymptomatic without the vaccine as well so surely better to take it as for AZ at least there is evidence it reduces transmission by 2/3s? I expect other vaccines will be found to cut transmission as well

AZ got recommended in Netherlands more for the 60-65 age group, not 65+

and we want to vaccinate 65+ group probably with Moderna since that one was more recommended for elderly

Nothing to do with the topic Nicky I doubt either Daniel or Oliver are 65 :laugh:

Thanks Ammi.

I still feel a bit uneasy, but I will get it done, my appointment is all sorted, and I'm 26, but I work in social work :laugh:

I'm more worried about the long term effects than short term

Yes. Though I highly doubt I will be offered it.

I was a bit on the fence when it seemed the point was to reduce symptoms if you catch it, and you could still spread it. Seemed very very pointless except for high risk people who have a sigificant chance of getting it badly. But given it seems to be helping to stop the spread, yeah. Balance has shifted somewhat to me.

Bloody hell. I assume it differs by area (though we are apparently a hotbed) but you and cherie appear to be the only ones I have seen yet who have this experience. Overwhemingly, those I know/speak to are a bit baffled, as they knew a few people hospitalised in March/April, yet don't know anyone this time around. It has seemed weird (though of course good..) that with death rates so high, it seems noone round here is having a difficult time of it this time. My dad theorised that the deaths/hospitalisations might be clusters, rather than spread out. I suspect he might be right in that. BUT if its that, a cluster could hit here anytime, which is a little unnerving.

I read some sciencey thing thing the other night out of pure curiousity, and it stated the main mistake near every country has made, is to assume covid behaves like the flu. So you would expect to see 2 people infected per infected person, and it would be 'guessable/trackable' a bit more. But, it seems that many people will not pass it on, but most 'outbreaks' are simply a superspreader event. That also would explain how some countries/areas seem to be ravaged while others have nothing (taking away the incompetant response of course..). Superspreader stuff really scares the crap out of me, especially how theres no way to tell if you are one.

If anyone is interested, I found it quite fascinating

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ndemic/616548/



Seems a bit weird though, statistics wise, that when deaths and such were much lower, it seemed loads knew someone very ill (or who had died) and the numbers are bloody huge now, and..well nothing. For here. Though I feel I am sort of tempting fate in a way, even mentioning this. As we have seen how very quickly things can turn..

oh i'm aware, but just had to bring this up what i heard here yesterday evening on the news since it was a discussion about AZ vaccine

No, I’m not over 70 or have underlying health conditions, but if people want to get it it’s their choice

This is the type of attitude that has helped the virus to thrive :skull:

Nah, I think it’s more Boris responsible for that

umm, no

also if you are young and you haven't got underlying health conditions you won't get the vaccine for a longer while with all honesty

So will you not get it once the older cohorts are done and they are vaccinating the rest of the population and its the turn of your age group?

Yes. Just got the letter today.

I've decided I'm definitely going to have it. Even though I'm still somewhat apprehensive. X

I'm more scared of the needle :bawling:

Not as much as those who are put into an induced coma not knowing if they will wake up again.

That has nothing to do with what I just said.

No, that’s more reason not to get it as the people most at risk would of been vaccinated.

It wasn't an accusation, just a question.

It's not a mandatory vaccine so totally up to each individual.

I know people who feel the same as you.....although a few have changed their minds due to possible "vaccination passports" but as that is only supposition at this time its silly to decide whether to have the jab because it could, maybe stop you doing things.

I have flip flopped, although have now decided to get the jab when I get offered, mainly in case I could still transmit it to more vulnerable people who may not have been able to have the jab, not because I'm scared of getting the virus.

Same. I don't want to pass it on to others

What about those who are immune suppressed and can't have the vaccine. Does it worry you that you may put them at risk?

I thought it was only live vaccines that immunosuppressed people couldn't get?

Mind, I only 'know' this through my dad having no spleen. Hes been on about the vaccine, and I always thought it would be dangerous for him, but his doctor said this^

The passing it onto others bit is the only reasn I will get it mind. Hence, being quite unsure when it seemed it was all about lesser infection, rather than stopping spread.

I was just answering your question and yeah my only fear is things being restricted or “not allowed” for people who haven’t taken it but I’m sure it wouldn’t come to that

It would be pretty much the same for the flu as well, obviously I don’t want to endanger anyone’s life but I’m not going to take a vaccine purely to protect someone else with no benefit to me. I’ve had hep B and HPV vaccines because it’s to protect me and my body and both I feel are far more important than the covid one

That's a no then? OK.

With any luck what Vicky said about specific vaccines still bring available for those who can't have a certain one. That way nobody will be put at risk however unintentionally.

Sunday morning 8.30am for me jag

you are getting a Jag, that business must be going great :love:

...:lovedup:...they knew you have busy days and couldn’t be doing with having it when half the day had already gone...GET IT DONE...