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jet 12-02-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10998715)
Yes :amazed:


:p

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jet 12-02-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10998711)
I agree that private should stay private.

I don't understand what hypocrisy there is though. Meghan feels her privacy has been invaded by her father releasing the letter and that is what has been the crux of this case. Her issue is with the publication in this case, not her father. If he had an issue with previous interviews, that was for him to then take similar action against that publication. It is not Meghan taking on her father in this case. She has taken exception at this publication, as is her right. She has taken legal action which has ruled in her favour in the points of law therefore no hypocrisy or unfairness.

Had she sued her father, I would understand your view more but in this case I don't see what the problem is.

Her father felt his privacy had been invaded by Meghan showing the letter to her friends and People magazine then printing what the friends told them was in the letter, apparently with Meghan’s blessing. Meghan took no exception at this publication as it showed her in a good light and him bad. Unlike Meghan he hadn’t the deep pockets, if needed, to sue People even if he had wanted to.

The defense of how he was portrayed in the People mag was the reason her father showed the letter to the paper in the first place who then printed extracts and led to them being sued by Meghan.
I’m referring to the human side of things here, not just points of law. I see unfairness and hypocrisy in this.

rusticgal 12-02-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10998642)
Yes, everyone deserves privacy, but Meghan didn’t care about her privacy when People magazine quoted her friends revealing those parts of the letter to her father that put her in a good light and her father bad. Did she sue them? Nope.
It’s fine for her fathers privacy to be breached but not Meghan's when he tries to defend himself. He doesn't have the means of having a 'voice' in the way she does.

It’s fine for her non - celebrity elderly fathers privacy to be breached when paps are camping on his doorstep and stalking him and Meghan refuses to let him be aided in any way.
Everyone deserves privacy ‘no matter who they are or how you feel about them’ but all that matters in this case is Meghan’s privacy. Okay.


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Mystic Mock 12-02-2021 10:24 AM

Tbh this is one of those issues where it's quite black and white and no matter how much some people may dislike Meghan, the correct verdict was handed out.

However I also agree with Jet that Meghan shouldn't have been showing off her Father's letter to People Magazine.

LukeB 12-02-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 10998709)
Pleased for her.
As to her relationship with her father, it’s up to her and I certainly wouldn’t want him in my life.

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People just got to stop being fake and pretending they care about her father when they only do because of their toxic hate for Meghan.

AnnieK 12-02-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10998746)
Her father felt his privacy had been invaded by Meghan showing the letter to her friends and People magazine then printing what the friends told them was in the letter, apparently with Meghan’s blessing. Meghan took no exception at this publication as it showed her in a good light and him bad. Unlike Meghan he hadn’t the deep pockets, if needed, to sue People even if he had wanted to.

The defense of how he was portrayed in the People mag was the reason her father showed the letter to the paper in the first place who then printed extracts and led to them being sued by Meghan.
I’m referring to the human side of things here, not just points of law. I see unfairness and hypocrisy in this.

The human side is pretty murky I will agree. However, so was him selling photographs before the wedding. There is fault on both sides but it seems that only Meghan receives the derision from lots of people

rusticgal 12-02-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 10998749)
Tbh this is one of those issues where it's quite black and white and no matter how much some people may dislike Meghan, the correct verdict was handed out.

However I also agree with Jet that Meghan shouldn't have been showing off her Father's letter to People Magazine.


I dont think anyone has disagreed with the verdict...

LukeB 12-02-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998755)
I dont think anyone has disagreed with the verdict...

Then why can’t you just say good on her and be done with it? Rather than your first post and then more negativity and taking about her dad and stuff. We know you hate Meghan but it’s the same in every thread the hate gets toxic for no reason over a woman who hasn’t done anything bad.

rusticgal 12-02-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998750)
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People just got to stop being fake and pretending they care about her father when they only do because of their toxic hate for Meghan.


Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....

LukeB 12-02-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998759)
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....

He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:

AnnieK 12-02-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998761)
He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:

Neither should get toxic abuse as its just....toxic and uncalled for in a world that is already on its knees :shrug:

Niamh. 12-02-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998759)
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....

Anyone who I've seen on here talk about her father is always just doing so in response to people saying how awful Meghan is to him

rusticgal 12-02-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998757)
Then why can’t you just say good on her and be done with it? Rather than your first post and then more negativity and taking about her dad and stuff. We know you hate Meghan but it’s the same in every thread the hate gets toxic for no reason over a woman who hasn’t done anything bad.


My first post was not negative...take another look. I only went on to mention her father when he was bought into the debate.
How do you know she hasnt done anything 'bad'....She has offended many but you dont see what she does as offensive...thats your opinion.
Nothing on here gets toxic...so stop exaggerating. If people dont like her then deal with it...but just show me the toxic comments on here PLEASE.

LukeB 12-02-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10998764)
Neither should get toxic abuse as its just....toxic and uncalled for in a world that is already on its knees :shrug:

yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing

jet 12-02-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10998754)
The human side is pretty murky I will agree. However, so was him selling photographs before the wedding. There is fault on both sides but it seems that only Meghan receives the derision from lots of people

That's because she is the one who is the instigator of trouble….its a recurring theme...:hehe:
If she hadn’t point blank refused Palace aids “who were tearing their hair out” advice to let them help and advise her father after the engagement news broke, those photos wouldn’t have been taken.

The paps were all over him for months after that, day after day. Whenever he had to leave the house they published the most unflattering pics they could and painted him as a slob (he has a big belly!)
In desperation, he spruced himself up and let them take some staged pics on the agreement they would leave him alone.
They didn’t, of course. Whether he got paid for them we don’t know for sure - I’d guess he did - but it’s really not miles away from Meghan releasing flattering pics for her website/business/blog.
How she could then ruthlessly cut him out of her life for good for that, I can’t fathom. Seems the punishment doesn’t quite fit the crime here…..because I can see it from his point of view, but not from hers in this case.

LukeB 12-02-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998768)
My first post was not negative...take another look. I only went on to mention her father when he was bought into the debate.
How do you know she hasnt done anything 'bad'....She has offended many but you dont see what she does as offensive...thats your opinion.
Nothing on here gets toxic...so stop exaggerating. If people dont like her then deal with it...but just show me the toxic comments on here PLEASE.

It wasn’t exactly a good comment :shrug:

Because she isn’t a criminal, she hasn’t done anything wrong and she hasn’t done anything problematic not like you can judge since you wanted trump to free a dangerous criminal. People are offended by anything she does... people even made an issue over the whole ‘husband and I’ thing. It does get toxic here and social media. It’s a fact and not exaggerated

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998761)
He doesn’t get half of the toxic abuse Meghan does :shrug:


Thats because he isnt in the press and on the TV every other day....

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998775)
Thats because he isnt in the press and on the TV every other day....

And he wouldn’t get that much abuse if he was because he’s a man

jet 12-02-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998776)
And he wouldn’t get that much abuse if he was because he’s a man

Huh? :huh:

bots 12-02-2021 11:06 AM

no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10998777)
Huh? :huh:

I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.

Josy 12-02-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998759)
Well you can say the same thing about Meghan supporters having toxic hate against her father who we know even less about....

Well that's just it, theres no need for toxic abuse or hate at all, dislike for people in the public eye is fair enough and is understandable but pure hatred is just OTT

jet 12-02-2021 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998781)
I mean he wouldn’t get the same treatment as Meghan because women and men are treated differently and it’s mostly the women getting all the abuse.

Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 10998784)
Imo that's nonsense. People are individuals and their actions matter, not their gender.

No it’s not nonsense at all it’s common knowledge. Women get the most of it and the men get little or none. No one is treated equally at all.

AnnieK 12-02-2021 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10998780)
no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:

Completely agree.

Things happen within families.....that no-one actually knows the full extent of unless it directly involves them. I have personal experience of this....my brother and I almost fell out after my mum died over something that happened whilst she was dying that I didn't tell him about to save his feelings but as he didn't know that, my behaviour seemed pretty cold hearted. Once explained it was all sorted but had that been splashed over the papers first, it would have been relationship over for us I'm sure

jet 12-02-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10998780)
no-one normally has their family relationships plastered all over the press, so I don't think anyone can judge who was right or wrong between Meghan and her father. I'm not actually sure why anyone cares, it's nobody's business but theirs :laugh:

Then they all need to stop leaking stories about their relationships to the likes of People mag and the Mail - and in Meghan's case stop approving books that tell even more about it. :hee:

thesheriff443 12-02-2021 11:22 AM

There is no obsessive hate for Meghan on this forum she has as many people that like her as dislike her.

She has won a court case that involved her father so in my eyes she hasn’t won anything of any real value

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998773)
It wasn’t exactly a good comment :shrug:

Because she isn’t a criminal, she hasn’t done anything wrong and she hasn’t done anything problematic not like you can judge since you wanted trump to free a dangerous criminal. People are offended by anything she does... people even made an issue over the whole ‘husband and I’ thing. It does get toxic here and social media. It’s a fact and not exaggerated


...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word :laugh:

Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:

You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10998766)
Anyone who I've seen on here talk about her father is always just doing so in response to people saying how awful Meghan is to him


With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.

Niamh. 12-02-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998805)
With equally 'Toxic' comments....that was my point.

I would disagree with that personally

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998802)
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word :laugh:

Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:

You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

Just saying :shrug:

She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate :shrug: I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998769)
yeah I agree with that tbh. It’s just ugly women getting the most of it and the men get’s hardly anything. 2021 and sexism is still a thing


Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....:hee:

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998814)
Calling her UGLY is very toxic....talking of men hardly get anything....when LT bought her father into the debate it was all wrong....:hee:

I didn’t call anyone ugly :shrug: and I started off with addressing the father stuff to everyone then you quoted me and I’ve seen you made comments about the father stuff.

Josy 12-02-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998802)
...and it wasnt a bad one either...I even used her favorite word [emoji23]



Why are you talking about Trump on a Meghan post...Josy wont be happy :shrug:



You dont have to be a criminal to be disliked. IMO she has done things wrong she has been disrespectful and I think she is a hypocrite ...I dont like her and I have yet to find anyone that does apart from on social media. There are many people I dont like...and there will be many you dont like and have a negative opinion on...that doesnt make you toxic unless you call them vile ugly names. People have their reasons for not liking her...just agree to disagree and stop exaggerating and over using the word TOXIC...its childish.

Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10998812)
Just saying :shrug:

She hasn’t though nothing bad to justify OTT hate :shrug: I do dislike people but you don’t really see me constantly saying anything negative and clutch at straws in every Katie Hopkins and others thread. I hardly say anything at all so no It doesn’t make me toxic. I’m not exaggerating.

There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.

LukeB 12-02-2021 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998825)
There is no hate...there is no toxicity...its just dislike.
Thats up to you if you dont want to discuss Katie Hopkins on every thread...but you can if you want. That doesnt make you any better than me or less toxic.

It would make me toxic though :shrug: too much hate is toxic and obsessive but I choose not to go down that route. It would help you so much, if you dislike someone that much why would you want them living in your head rent free? it’s so easy to not comment at all and move on it’s very healthy

rusticgal 12-02-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10998822)
Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted :shrug:....

thesheriff443 12-02-2021 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 10998822)
Why wouldnt I be happy? Just because jet posted something doesnt make it true, it was already explained up the page that theres not a problem with threads going in other on topic directions that's the natural way a debate works.

My point was clear in that some people who dislike Meghan were saying things along the lines of 'yeah but what about her dad's privacy' etc instead of actually just agreeing that everyone is entitled to the privacy they request to have and leaving it at that, because seriously who can even honestly think that someone winning a privacy case against a newspaper is in any way a negative thing at all? It's just flaberghasting tbh

Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper

It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.

Josy 12-02-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 10998828)
Well you contradict yourself there Josy...a debate naturally takes you in different directions which is why her father came into it....I dont know why you would feel flabberghasted :shrug:....

I dont contradict myself at all actually, if you go back and read the posts between myself and jet you will see that no one said what you seem to think...

And like I said I'm flabbergasted that anyone could think that an individual winning a privacy case against the newspapers could in any way be spinned to be a negative thing.

AnnieK 12-02-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 10998829)
Winning a privacy case against a news paper because you don’t like what was written but happy for your privacy to printed in another magazine because it showed you in a good light is why people don’t applaud her win against a newspaper

It’s not about privacy for Meghan it’s about having control of what is written.

That's the way privacy laws work though. She is able to sue the newspapers....as are you if you so wished....to whatever end she likes. I'm sure if something negative and damaging to you was posted on here and you reported it, it would be removed but you would not report a post saying you were amazing and the best member ever. Its human nature not to want to negative attention and the way privacy laws work you can do something about it :shrug:


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