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Alf 21-04-2021 02:05 AM

Apparently Mr Floyd sacrificed himself for justice. The political class are very thankful to Mr Floyd, now they can attempt to use this to try to pass new authoritarian laws on the people, one more step to all conquering power.




Tom4784 21-04-2021 02:15 AM

It's a shame how so many older people get suckered into believing conspiracy theories that a child would be able to see through. Oh well, enough about extremely gullible people, it's a great day for justice. I'm pleased that George Floyd's family finally got closure with this result and I hope this is a starting point for other black victims of police brutality to get the justice they've been denied in the past.

Shaun 21-04-2021 02:45 AM

Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Ammi 21-04-2021 04:58 AM

...justice for George...:lovedup:...George Floyd was taken from his family but at least justice for his life wasn’t taken from them...I can’t imagine the emotion they must be feeling in having waited so long for this day and those judge’s words ...

George Floyd’s sister, LaTonya Floyd, reportedly said of the verdict: “I feel like heaven is standing on my shoulders ... My brother got justice, and that’s very rare.”


George Floyd’s younger brother, Philonise, said there was more work to be done in their fight for justice. “We will have to do this for life,” he said. “I am going to put up a fight every day ... because I am not just fighting for George any more.”

...as his family and Barack Obama have said, it’s about more than one trial and one verdict but it’s a great justice of a terrible wrong by someone who was pledged to protect ...George’s family can now begin to put their lives back together...

Niamh. 21-04-2021 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 11036305)
Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Yeah I thought the same, great news though

bots 21-04-2021 09:11 AM

it only needed 1 juror to say not guilty and given the defence had input into the choice of jurors, it shows how damning the evidence was against him

GoldHeart 21-04-2021 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 11036305)
Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Yeah I kept thinking what other excuses were they going to come up with to try and get Chauvin off , Floyd was being painted as some druggie with health problems .

But that's like jumping on an old man's chest who has lung disease, and after he dies nonchalantly being like "well he was already ill " , like it doesn't matter that you've still injured and killed someone .

So whether George Floyd had chest problems already, it doesn't change the fact he was still murdered . so finally justice has been served and a bit of closure too for the family :clap1: .

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2021 06:01 PM

The jury got it WRONG
 

bots 21-04-2021 06:19 PM

true to form there LT

GiRTh 21-04-2021 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036614)

Is Ben Shapiro a forum member cuz we seem to hear from him alot. Perhaps the forum member would like to tell us why his voice is so important in this debate?

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2021 07:17 PM

Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton



He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dersho...rned-on-appeal

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2021 07:18 PM

lets hope so for the sake of the law

Kate! 21-04-2021 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036639)
Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton



He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dersho...rned-on-appeal

Well that would be a travesty of the highest order.

GiRTh 21-04-2021 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036639)
Dershowitz predicts Derek Chauvin's conviction will be overturned, citing Maxine Waters,
Al Sharpton



He predicted the US Supreme Court would ultimately
Legal scholar Alan Dershowitz predicted Monday that Derek Chauvin's conviction would
be overturned on appeal because of the unusual number of "outside influences" that
potentially tainted the jury, which was unsequestered for the majority of the trial.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/dersho...rned-on-appeal

Dershowitz :facepalm:.

The man who after being accused of sexual improprieties claimed he had a 'perfect', I repeat 'perfect' sex life. A very odd statement from a very odd gentleman but lets post his garbage cuz it'll wind people up. :bored:

Jeffrey Epstein's ex-lawyer Alan Dershowitz boasts of his 'perfect sex life' with his wife

hijaxers 21-04-2021 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11036643)
Well that would be a travesty of the highest order.

Oh yeah and watch for the reaction , if they let him off on appeal it'll be war on the streets and they will have every reason to , the man is guilty and deserves longest sentence possible, no excuses and end of.

I doubt Mr Chauvin will enjoy jail but its what happens when you murder aother human being.

Crimson Dynamo 21-04-2021 07:37 PM

let's await the appeal...

Glenn. 21-04-2021 10:24 PM

I’m glad the family has justice.

arista 21-04-2021 11:30 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...tpage22.04.jpg

user104658 22-04-2021 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036649)
let's await the appeal...


But LT he has been convicted by a court of law... why are you questioning the verdict... do you think you know better than a court of law? :think:

Ammi 22-04-2021 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11036699)
I’m glad the family has justice.

...it’s a strange one, I just can’t imagine how a family must feel with something like this because there would be a huge sense of justice obviously but no sense of satisfaction as such because to get to this place of justice they’ve lost George and so much of their lives/their daily thoughts etc will surely have had this focus of the trial and the verdict...now they don’t have that anymore, their grief will be something that they have to fully feel without that concentration of the trial and accountability...it’s just impossible to imagine..it would be like a grieving process twice...

Ammi 22-04-2021 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 11036305)
Genuinely surprised by the verdict... I assumed the American legal system would conjure 200 more impossible hoops for the prosecution to jump through and he'd be acquitted on the most inane technicality.

A small slice of justice in a country that's in short supply.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11036362)
Yeah I thought the same, great news though

...I’ve been in thoughts about this quite a bit this morning, it’s exactly what you’ve said, Shaun...it’s a small slice of justice, it’s not just that George’s life was taken by someone who was meant to serve the law and protect and preserve life...it’s that he coldly took a life in full public view...?...and that’s how deeply the prejudice can run...that it’s so instilled that a life can be taken, surrounded by horrified public eyes and then a not guilty plea given..
It’s great justice but it really is a tiniest slice...

bots 22-04-2021 08:00 AM

in order for an appeal to be successful it needs some genuine reasons for it other than some woman said something outside the courthouse. It reminds me a lot of Trump and his vote rigging accusations, and look where that got him

Crimson Dynamo 22-04-2021 08:39 AM

There are few parallels between race relations in America and Britain
 
The conviction of the former Minneapolis police officer Derek
Chauvin for the murder of George Floyd was greeted with relief
by those who feared his acquittal would reignite racial tensions
in America. A thorough trial, albeit one firmly in the political
spotlight, considered all the evidence and a jury reached its
verdict beyond reasonable doubt. The justice system worked as
it should, without fear or favour.

Joe Biden, who even before the verdict was delivered
proclaimed publicly that the evidence against Chauvin was
“overwhelming”, said the outcome was a platform on which to
build better race relations in America. The events since Floyd’s
death, with the growth of the Black Lives Matter movement,
certainly demonstrate that these are needed.

It is disconcerting, however, to find campaigners in this country
seeking to find parallels with what has happened across the
Atlantic. There is no comparison. Race relations in the UK, while
by no means perfect, are infinitely better than in America and,
indeed, than in most other countries. Dr Tony Sewell’s
commission, which had the temerity to point this out, continues to be
trashed by those who would rather foment division than seek to improve the


During a heated Commons debate on the report, Marsha de
Cordova, Labour’s spokesman, suggested policy should take its
lead from the BLM movement. Fortunately, the redoubtable
Kemi Badenoch, the minister for equalities, was having none of
it, declaring: “She is clearly determined to create a divisive
atmosphere around race and we will not stand for it.” Ms
Badenoch’s ministerial colleagues need to back her up just as
forcefully.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...erica-britain/

user104658 22-04-2021 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036755)

It is disconcerting, however, to find campaigners in this country
seeking to find parallels with what has happened across the
Atlantic. There is no comparison. Race relations in the UK, while
by no means perfect, are infinitely better than in America

I agree with that but on the flipside, unfortunately, some people will take "it's much better here than elsewhere" and come to the illogical conclusion that "...therefore issues relating to race need NO attention here; it's fine".

"Better than elsewhere" does not mean "good". "America is worse" doesn't mean "we don't need to bother continuing to improve".


To use one of my famed parables; if you're in an accident and you clearly break your leg, but others in the same accident have internal bleeding and head injuries, YES you can say "Oh wow at least my injuries aren't as severe as theirs" ... and then you get yourself to hospital because you have a broken leg, and that needs attention. You don't hop off home declaring everything fine because your broken leg isn't as bad as Bob's punctured lung.

bots 22-04-2021 08:50 AM

we don't have a gun culture here, so we just can't compare ourselves to the usa, it's different on so many levels

Crimson Dynamo 22-04-2021 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11036756)
I agree with that but on the flipside, unfortunately, some people will take "it's much better here than elsewhere" and come to the illogical conclusion that "...therefore issues relating to race need NO attention here; it's fine".

"Better than elsewhere" does not mean "good". "America is worse" doesn't mean "we don't need to bother continuing to improve".


To use one of my famed parables; if you're in an accident and you clearly break your leg, but others in the same accident have internal bleeding and head injuries, YES you can say "Oh wow at least my injuries aren't as severe as theirs" ... and then you get yourself to hospital because you have a broken leg, and that needs attention. You don't hop off home declaring everything fine because your broken leg isn't as bad as Bob's punctured lung.

we recently had a detailed and nuanced report by experts that said that your leg was not broken you have pulled a small ligament - so you can go home rest it for a day or two and you will be fine

:hee:

user104658 22-04-2021 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11036761)
we recently had a detailed and nuanced report by experts

We did not.

arista 25-06-2021 06:48 PM

SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD


His Sentencing is taking place.

Mokka 25-06-2021 07:34 PM

I listened to the final sentencing statements from both sides... and I hope they do more than throw the book at him. But in 15 mins we will know.

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2021 07:42 PM

i guess i am also thinking of the woman he abused

The Slim Reaper 25-06-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11064257)
i guess i am also thinking of the woman he abused

Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

arista 25-06-2021 07:58 PM

He Got 22 years and 6months


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57618356

https://news.sky.com/story/derek-cha...years-12341841

Mokka 25-06-2021 08:02 PM

Justice has been served

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2021 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11064258)
Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

:facepalm:

The Slim Reaper 25-06-2021 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11064264)
:facepalm:

A simple yes would have sufficed :blush:

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2021 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11064267)
A simple yes would have sufficed :blush:

Simple

Beso 25-06-2021 09:16 PM

Hopefully he has a hard 20 whatever years.

Black Dagger 25-06-2021 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11064258)
Is this why you keep posting the videos of famous wife beater, and defender of child abusers, Jim Davidson?

.

hijaxers 25-06-2021 09:41 PM

I'm pleased he got that sentence. but i was watching Judge Judy a couple of days ago and George Floyd the 6th i think , was in her court he had a record of all sorts of crimes and was guilty yet again and talk about a mirror image of his father , it could have been him when young.

Beso 25-06-2021 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11064299)
I'm pleased he got that sentence. but i was watching Judge Judy a couple of days ago and George Floyd the 6th i think , was in her court he had a record of all sorts of crimes and was guilty yet again and talk about a mirror image of his father , it could have been him when young.

100 percent, the family are no Angel's, and will milk the death for what it's worth.

And if I was in their position, I would probably do the same.:shrug:


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