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Beso 07-03-2021 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012512)
Ah, so recording an interview and the channel airing it at some point is akin to being a child rapist to you.

What an interesting sense of morality you have.

No..its a comparison I made up just like the one you did..

Mine is more on point.. do you have an answer for it?

Beso 07-03-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012515)
Parm you know I think your a nice guy but wtf tonight

I've said it for ages..

Andrew is Harry's favourite uncle.. that is a fact.

joeysteele 07-03-2021 06:55 PM

I don't say much re Prince Andrew, as there are criminal proceedings to be done.

I am stunned he hasn't voluntarily gone to the USA to ' assist' in this case.
His interview was a non event which didn't go well.

However, yes, the Queen and the Palace is protecting him, keeping him out the public eye and no more interviews or appearances, even as to those investigating in the USA.

Yes, he's the Queen's son, well what does she know, that he needs to be hidden away under her protective shield.

If any of her subjects could be thought to be needed to assist In a criminal investigation, she for sure wouldn't be wanting to see anyone, family or otherwise, protecting them from talking about it to officials.

This is another example of what's wrong with the stifling Royal set up and regime.
Where even if any were to want to say more, they likely have to shut up.

Well, that's why if I have any admiration for Meghan Markle, it's that she refused to be shut up and just tow the Royal rigid line.

Of course that then means, she loses that controlling rigid protective Royal set up shield.
So well done to her on that.

As for Prince Andrew, he has a colourful past in any event.

However, at present he himself has not been accused of anything.
It seems the investigators of the case just wanted to talk with him.

He could do an interview to talk about it on TV, but not go and talk TO the Investigators.
Why, to that is another question.

The Queen isn't wrong to protect him if innocent, I can't grasp why she supports him at least not going to talk to the investigation officials in the USA however.

rusticgal 07-03-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012505)
If a son or daughter of mine raped children, they would be my child no more. I'd drag them to the police station myself. No amount of parental love could excuse such monstrous actions.


You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11012536)
You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

It sounds like you're passing more judgement on me, for saying I would disown a child rapist, than you are for the said child rapist in question.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012527)
No..its a comparison I made up just like the one you did..

Mine is more on point.. do you have an answer for it?

I don't have an answer for incoherent babbling, no.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglasS (Post 11012522)
That means Dezzy thinks Meghan is a bully also

A swing and a miss.

Beso 07-03-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012545)
I don't have an answer for incoherent babbling, no.

If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

jet 07-03-2021 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012516)
I'd believe the evidence. You can keep moving the goalposts, but it won't change my answer. I would not shield a rapist, regardless of the circumstances.

It's you who are moving the goalposts. Imagine it is your son, what evidence have you so far that you would state that your loved one is a rapist.

jet 07-03-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 11012518)
I would support him all I could, until a court found him guilty.
Innocent until proven guilty for me.

Absolutely. Any loving mother or father would.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012551)
If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

Nothing, I don't give a **** about what other people would be saying if a family member was on their deathbed.

It's insane to even compare that to a family member being a child rapist.

Amy Jade 07-03-2021 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11012536)
You can hardly drag a 61 year old man to a police station....and he IS being investigated....not many would completely disown their children.

he has been repeatedly asked to volunteer his time to go and help investigations and has so far not gone. His age is irrelevant.

Amy Jade 07-03-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012551)
If your child was bringing negative attention on your family while your father lay on his death bed...what would you do?

Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11012553)
It's you who are moving the goalposts. Imagine it is your son, what evidence have you so far that you would state that your loved one is a rapist.

He says, just before trying to move the goalposts in the very next sentence.

I don't forgive rape, I would not call someone who could do that to a child my son. That is my answer, no amount of moving the goalposts and twisting what I say will change it.

Beso 07-03-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012562)
Nothing, I don't give a **** about what other people would be saying if a family member was on their deathbed.

It's insane to even compare that to a family member being a child rapist.


You gave your answer on Andrew...I'm not comparing anything.. just wanting an answer to another scenario...


What about the little **** bringing the attention..

You would be giving him a green light to act like a selfish little prick in the future if you didnt man up and show him the proper way to act in such circumstances.shrug:

Bad parenting imo.

Beso 07-03-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012568)
Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

Very dismissive response.:wavey:

Bye.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012575)
What about the little **** bringing the attention..

You would be giving him a green light to act like a selfish little prick in the future if you didnt man up and show him the proper way to act in such circumstances.shrug:

Bad parenting imo.

A truly bad parent cares more about what the world thinks of them, and uses that as sway to affect their parenting. Being concerned with what the world is saying when someone you love could be dying is very warped.

As is the fact that you seem more offended by this than Andrew's actions.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012579)
Very dismissive response.:wavey:

Bye.

He says, while being dismissive because he got an answer he didn't like.

jet 07-03-2021 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012571)
He says, just before trying to move the goalposts in the very next sentence.

I don't forgive rape, I would not call someone who could do that to a child my son. That is my answer, no amount of moving the goalposts and twisting what I say will change it.

If your beloved son was accused of rape, and he told you he was innocent, what would you do? Can you answer a direct question without twisting?

Beso 07-03-2021 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012581)
A truly bad parent cares more about what the world thinks of them, and uses that as sway to affect their parenting. Being concerned with what the world is saying when someone you love could be dying is very warped.

As is the fact that you seem more offended by this than Andrew's actions.


You still ain't addressed what you would do if your dad was on his deathbed and your son was bringing unnecessary further stress to the whole family.

You instantly said what you would do with andrew..a man merely accused of things..

You said you would dob him in..dob him in on the word of others...those others you say that thier words or thoughts dont matter if harry is ****ting on prince Phillips parade.


So what would you do with harry if he was your son and your dad was dying at the same time he was taking a swipe at you.

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:16 PM

Are people forgetting that parents out there have brought up some of the most sickest twisted criminals out there . When it comes to light their heinous crimes how many would defend them? . If anything they'd be in shock and disgusted.

I'm generalising of course as everyone is different , but people have disowned family members over less so yeah .

Amy Jade 07-03-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012579)
Very dismissive response.:wavey:

Bye.

You just don't like the answer.

jet 07-03-2021 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012568)
Ignore it and get the peado in the family put behind bars so they can't hurt anymore innocent kids.

You'd want your son put behind bars before he's been found guilty in a court of law?

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11012584)
If your beloved son was accused of rape, and he told you he was innocent, what would you do? Can you answer a direct question without twisting?

Can you respond to one of my posts without incompetently trying to throw a term I used back at me, and failing in the process?

You asked me a question, I answered it but it wasn't the answer you wanted so you keep trying to move the goalposts by asking leading questions to try and change my stance, but it will not change. I would disown a child rapist if I believed they were guilty of the crime and I think anyone who wouldn't is a POS shielding a predator.

The royal family are ***** for protect Andrew in face of everything, it's not something to be admired or defended. They are protecting a predator.

Beso 07-03-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012590)
You just don't like the answer.

I didnt..

The question was about harry but you answered it as though I asked it about andrew..

jet 07-03-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11012589)
Are people forgetting that parents out their have brought up some of the most sickest twisted criminals out there . When it come to light their heinous crimes how many would defend them? . If anything they'd be in shock and disgusted.

I'm generalising of course as everyone is different , but people have disowned family members over less so yeah .

Yes, I can see that if they have actually had a trial and been found guilty.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012588)
You still ain't addressed what you would do if your dad was on his deathbed and your son was bringing unnecessary further stress to the whole family.

You instantly said what you would do with andrew..a man merely accused of things..

You said you would dob him in..dob him in on the word of others...those others you say that thier words or thoughts dont matter if harry is ****ting on prince Phillips parade.


So what would you do with harry if he was your son and your dad was dying at the same time he was taking a swipe at you.

I gave you an answer, and you keep ignoring it because it's not the answer you want.

I wouldn't give a ****, I'd have bigger things on my mind than a ****ing interview if my parent was dying.

It continues to be disturbing that you find an interview to be as egregious an offence as raping a child.

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11012594)
Yes, I can see that if they have actually had a trial and been found guilty.

Like I said people have disowned their own kids over far less , so why does it surprise you that not every parent would protect & defend a predator ?? .

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012602)
I'm not comparing...


So you dont need to either:nono:

I'm discussing one side of the topic..I'm not one for child raping discussions.:nono:

No matter how many times you bring it up..I wont be drawn into that seedy world.

How can you say drawn in though

joeysteele 07-03-2021 07:30 PM

Speaking for myself only and I haven't been asked I admit.
My Parents, were I implicated in a crime or could assist with getting the facts of one.
Would not support me being silent.

If I'd also really done wrong, I was brought up to believe if you've done wrong, own up to it.
Which they'd have also pushed me to do.

Yes, they'd likely still have been there for me but through it, NOT to avoid it.

I have to say too, who is on their deathbed?
Apparently Prince Philip is improving, is likely to be back home In a week or so.
So the deathbed scenario doesn't apply.

Again however, people who feel the need strongly to say or reveal something, should be able to do so, in my view anyway.

Tom4784 07-03-2021 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11012602)
I'm not comparing...


So you dont need to either:nono:

I'm discussing one side of the topic..I'm not one for child raping discussions.:nono:

No matter how many times you bring it up..I wont be drawn into that seedy world.

Except you have made comparisons multiple times.

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11012605)
You are dodging the question, all your guff doesn't hide that. But what you have said will suffice - You would disown your own son, even if they told you they were innocent, and without any current actual, concrete evidence, because you automatically would assume they were guilty.
Wow, wow, wow. Okay.

That's not what Dezzy said but go off I guess :bored:

Beso 07-03-2021 07:31 PM

My son is guilty of the most heinous of crimes cause nosey joyce said so..

I'm the type of father that allows my sons to bring shame on my family as my father lies on his deathbed...cause
I dont give a **** what other people think...

Apart from nosey joyce.

Her word is gospel.

jet 07-03-2021 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11012599)
Like I said people have disowned their own kids over far less , so why does it surprise you that not every parent would protect & defend a predator ?? .

But why wouldn't the parent defend the son if he denied he was a predator and there was no actual current evidence to prove it?

jet 07-03-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11012612)
That's not what Dezzy said but go off I guess :bored:

Correct me then....

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 11012614)
But why wouldn't the parent defend the son if he denied he was a predator and there was no actual current evidence to prove it?

But we're talking about WITH evidence ,and they'll be a number of other suspicious encounters too. Being best friends with a notorious rapist isn't going to help your case either is it now.

Amy Jade 07-03-2021 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11012616)
if they can defend an abusive money-mad passive-aggressive bully surely that isnt a surprise?

:shrug:

Even if the person I was defending was all those things at least they aren't a bloody peadophile.

jet 07-03-2021 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11012618)
No, you just don't like the answer I'm giving so you're disregarding what I've said to shove your words down my throat and judge me for a conclusion you've invented all on your own.

Imagine judging me for disowning someone I suspected of being a child predator in order to defend an actual child predator so that a hatred of Meghan Markle seems less irrational than it is.

Twisty twisty - and now accusing me of defending a predator, your transparency is laughable. I have never said Andrew isn't guilty, how would I know if he was or wasn't? I have said he hasn't been convicted.

Top tip Dezzy - NEVER aspire to become a judge.....

Again - Why would you suspect your son of being a predator if you weren't even there in the country where he was accused and he told he he was innocent?

GoldHeart 07-03-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012630)
Even if the person I was defending was all those things at least they aren't a bloody peadophile.

I know which one I'd rather defend

#team Harry & Meghan

jet 07-03-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 11012596)
I can't believe people are defending a nonce. Only on tibb!

Nobody is defending Andrew. Everyone is entitled to a fair trial in a court of law no matter who they are. If he is found guilty, I'll call him worse than a nonce.


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