It's not gonna happen. I told you that weeks ago. And weeks later you're still believing the bulls!t and saying the same things you were before Christmas.

Australia is also moving their staff from Ukraine


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I don’t believe they will sort it out...where did I say they would? But why you think the US would get involved is anyone’s guess

What did I say before Christmas?

Also i hope someones watching out for China doing a sneak attack on Taiwan when all this kicks off?

On balance, I do think it's very unlikely that this will escalate into a full armed conflict. This sort of sabre-rattling has been going on since the Cold War.

I guess I'll have a fair amount of egg on my face if I end up sitting in a pool of radioactive fallout after they drop a nuke on the Trident docks eh :joker:... :umm2:

putin has been out of the global narrative in recent years, a lot of this posturing is probably to satisfy his generals.

If america wanted to inflict economic harm on russia, it has the potential to be devastating to russia, if they have the balls to do it. If i were russia i would poodle about a bit and then get back in my box

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/25/ukrain...rn-netherlands

Netherlands: Ukraine embassy staff can voluntarily return to Netherlands
Personnel of the Dutch embassy in Ukraine who want to return to the Netherlands will be allowed to do so. But the Netherlands, unlike the United States and the United Kingdom, still sees no reason to evacuate employees, said Foreign Affairs Minister Wopke Hoekstra.

The choice for evacuation "is a huge dilemma," said Hoekstra. Recalling staff too early could add fuel to the already heated conflict between Russia and the West. But too late is terrifying, with the chaotic evacuation from the Afghan capital of Kabul last summer still fresh in our minds.

Like France and Germany, the Netherlands does not yet consider Ukraine too unsafe for its staff. The US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, who joined the meeting of the EU Foreign Affairs Ministers by video link on Monday, did not change their minds either. But "we have indicated that, if employees themselves or their families want to the Netherlands, they, of course, have the possibility to do so," Hoekstra said afterward. A spokesperson could not immediately say whether anyone had already made this request.

The United States and the United Kingdom have much larger embassies that cannot easily be moved to safety. But they're not closing their doors entirely either, said Hoekstra.

Hoekstra asked other Dutch people in Ukraine to ask themselves whether it is really necessary to be there and to pay close attention to the situation in case it suddenly deteriorates. He emphasized that the fall of Kabul and the subsequent evacuation were "really different." Unlike Afghanistan at the time, Netherlands residents can leave Ukraine "without restrictions" for the time being. The country shares a border and good connections with EU and NATO countries like Poland and Romania.

EU Foreign Ministers asked the EU Foreign Affairs chief Josep Borrell to devise sanctions should Russia attack Ukraine. But they won't speculate on which act Russia can expect which punitive measure. Hoekstra did not rule out any sanctions but also did not want to say whether it is, therefore, conceivable that Russia will be excluded from international payment transactions, for example. The answer will be "big" and "quick," is all he wanted to say. What he noticed above all at his first meeting with the EU Foreign Ministers was their unanimity, he said.

It is precisely the elaboration on sanctions that regularly appears to divide the EU countries. Heavyweight Germany is hesitant, while eastern member states are invariably in favor of a hard line.

The PM is Live
in Parliament, debating Ukraine and Russia


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Ch4HDnews
Live in Ukraine

They say some Ukraine Military arrested
some Russian spies who were going to try to disable
some areas at the borders.
They have their Electronic notebooks.

Germany is holding back on sending
anything into Ukraine,
as they get their Gas Supply Direct from Russia.


Logical.

History of Ukraine

Russia has 5 Nations backing them

China
Iran
Belarus
Venezuela
North Korea


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Ch4HDnews
reports all USA Citizens
in Ukraine must leave now


I bet the CNN HD USA lady reporter will stay.



Also in Belarus has
Russian Fighter Jets that are flying.
They will be the first Air Bombers
to take at Ukraine Air Defence.

Nicaragua better pick the right side or they'll be getting a few nukes too.

Trust the Government that spread Covid-19 to the world would side with Russia.

I guess they'll never learn.

Cut em off. No German gas for the Russians. They will freeze.

Volodymyr Zelensky, the president of Ukraine,
is pictured on a phone call with President Biden
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/01...3358361227.jpg
Some are now saying a Full takeover
could happen in 2 weeks time.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-February.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/14870...jpg&name=small
[Mariana Zhaglo Mariana Zhaglo,
a 52-year-old market researcher in Kiev,
has bought her own high-powered rifle to fend
off any Russian attack and is ready
to fight to the death:
“We have nowhere else to go,” she said]

Zelensky not happy with Biden talking up an invasion being imminent, he is sorta doing the Russians job for them by doing so as he's creating instability by adding to the fear

I've been following the news there a lot the last few days and I don't think there's going to be a serious escalation anytime soon so I'm going to go ahead with my trip to Kyiv

Biden has shown himself to be a complete idiot. You can just tell that his sanction package will be a heap of horse dung too.

I wouldnt take the risk of going to the ukraine at the moment. It's not really worth a visit at the best of times unless you are looking to find a wife :laugh:

Ukraine: Boris Johnson to call Vladimir Putin on the phone
and visit region

I wonder if he goes on Weds
to miss PMQ's

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-r...forts-12527840

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60179127

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Pointed out last time when he (Putin)
took over Crimea
he waited until after the Olympics.

Will it be the same this time?

Johnson Prime Minister is in Ukraine today
he was mean't to call Putin
yesterday, but was not able to due to the Sue Gray report.

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/01/pm-rut...an-threat-mh17

Netherlands: PM Rutte and FM Hoekstra headed to Kyiv to discuss Russian threat, MH17
Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Foreign Minister Wopke Hoekstra will travel to Kiyv on Tuesday to talk with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The meeting had been scheduled for some time but has been cast in a different light due to the rising tension between Ukraine and Russia, the Prime Minister said on Friday. The West fears a Russian invasion of Ukraine although both countries say it will not go so fast.

The situation in Ukraine has been very tense since a conflict over the country's possible NATO membership. Russia is vehemently against this and believes that the alliance is asserting itself too much on Eastern Europe. Meanwhile, the European Union and the United States, among others, are very concerned about a large number of Russian military personnel, including weapons, that have gathered along the borders of Ukraine. Rutte called the situation "very serious."

Ukraine has asked for military resources and money to defend itself against a possible attack. The country is also concerned about cyberattacks from Russia. The Netherlands already indicated that it is prepared to supply weapons with which Ukraine can defend itself. It is not yet clear what exactly that contribution will look like. Sources told newspaper AD that a Defense inventory shows the Netherlands will send helmets, shard vests, and metal detectors to detect mines to Ukraine. The sources couldn't say whether there are any weapons on the list.

Rutte wants to show with this visit that the West is "visibly involved," but he said that he does not expect he will make any commitments during his visit this week.

Concerns about the security situation in Ukraine increased further this past week. The British and American governments already recalled the relatives of embassy staff. The Netherlands does not yet see cause to evacuate people. But embassy employees who feel unsafe may of course leave the country, Hoekstra previously said.

Over the past days, the Cabinet had regular contact with UN Secretary-General António Guterres and NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg, among others. They're also scheduled to meet with Ukrainian Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal and representatives from the business community. There are also visits in the context of MH17, including a visit to the Joint Investigation Team.

After the consultations in Ukraine, Rutte and Hoekstra will travel to neighboring Moldova on Wednesday. There they meet with President Maia Sandu and Prime Minister Natalia Gavrilița. There too, the increased tensions between Ukraine and Russia are on the agenda, as are "our economic cooperation, energy, strengthening the rule of law", Rutte announced.

Johnson PM has just landed in Kiev


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Boris and me out on the lash in Kyiv tonight :smug:

stay away from the ladies! :laugh:

PM Johnson and the Leader of the Ukraine
are about to go Live in Ukraine


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The Ukraine Leader Zelensky
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Johnson is Now live its 19:35 there