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arista 12-06-2021 12:06 AM

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Nicky91 13-06-2021 04:17 PM

this thread didn't age well at all



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King Gareth proving the haters wrong :clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 13-06-2021 04:46 PM

the knee was booed a lot even if the BBC played fake crowd cheers on top and pretended we could not hear all the booing

Beso 13-06-2021 04:48 PM

I heard cheers, lots of them...it was like when nicky came out he house

rusticgal 13-06-2021 04:49 PM

Just as a matter of interest...how many other countries are doing this?

bots 13-06-2021 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11058213)
Just as a matter of interest...how many other countries are doing this?

none that i am aware of. Scotland are doing a stand tomorrow and will take the knee next friday when they play england

Cherie 13-06-2021 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11058213)
Just as a matter of interest...how many other countries are doing this?

Belgium took the knee last night while Russian players looked on

Niamh. 13-06-2021 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11058226)
Belgium took the knee last night while Russian players looked on

I mean Russia doesn't have the greatest record when it comes to racism in football [emoji1745]

Cherie 13-06-2021 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11058229)
I mean Russia doesn't have the greatest record when it comes to racism in football [emoji1745]

I know i was just responding to who was taking the knee before games only seen England and Belgium so far, not seen the start of all the games though

arista 13-06-2021 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11058208)
the knee was booed a lot even if the BBC played fake crowd cheers on top and pretended we could not hear all the booing



Ch4HDNews played the Boooo's


How Stupid of the BBC.

Good Job Tonight
GBNewsHD start s with Andrew Neil.

bots 13-06-2021 05:19 PM

isn't it a bit silly when gareth and the FA want to stop something as trivial as a boo. We live in a free society where people are still allowed to express their opinions in a peaceful manner

Swan 13-06-2021 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11058232)
I know i was just responding to who was taking the knee before games only seen England and Belgium so far, not seen the start of all the games though

Turkey/Italy didn't, Wales/Switzerland did.

Cherie 13-06-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11058236)
Turkey/Italy didn't, Wales/Switzerland did.

Was just coming back to say Wales and Switzerland did :laugh:

Liam- 13-06-2021 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11058235)
isn't it a bit silly when gareth and the FA want to stop something as trivial as a boo. We live in a free society where people are still allowed to express their opinions in a peaceful manner

So what’s the issue with the players kneeling then? If we’re free to express ourselves peacefully?

Crimson Dynamo 13-06-2021 05:21 PM

Not kneeling teams
 
Hungary
Denmark
Finland
Russia
Holland
Italy
Turkey
Croatia
Scotland

there will be more

details here

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15221...gland-croatia/

bots 13-06-2021 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11058239)
So what’s the issue with the players kneeling then? If we’re free to express ourselves peacefully?

everyone knows fine well what the issue is, it is the connection with the far left political group BLM in SPORT and if people dont like it, they can express their opinion peacefully, which they have

Swan 13-06-2021 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11058238)
Was just coming back to say Wales and Switzerland did :laugh:

Those were the only teams i could remember who did/didn't off the top of my head :laugh:

bots 13-06-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11058247)
Those were the only teams i could remember who did/didn't off the top of my head :laugh:

i cant say i've even noticed if they did or didnt :laugh:

Swan 13-06-2021 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11058239)
So what’s the issue with the players kneeling then? If we’re free to express ourselves peacefully?

I agree, no issue from me, im not bothered who kneels and who doesn't. But it should work both ways. If a player, or team chooses not to then that should be respected, you (not you) can't brand players or countries racist if they decide they don't want to take the knee.

Swan 13-06-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11058248)
i cant say i've even noticed if they did or didnt :laugh:

I mean im watching the Austria/N.Macedonia game right now and i can't even remember if either team took the knee :laugh:

Liam- 13-06-2021 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11058243)
everyone knows fine well what the issue is, it is the connection with the far left political group BLM in SPORT and if people dont like it, they can express their opinion peacefully, which they have

So you’re not happy for players to protest against racism, but you’re perfectly happy for fans to boo when said players protest against racism, got it

bots 13-06-2021 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11058258)
So you’re not happy for players to protest against racism, but you’re perfectly happy for fans to boo when said players protest against racism, got it

im not happy for players to associate with a political organisation, i'm perfectly happy for them to protest against racism. That's the problem, people are so quick to shout racist, when the complaining has nothing whatsoever to do with that

Beso 13-06-2021 05:46 PM

If the left hadnt grabbed BLM by the nuts, like a rampant woman you would have named Rambo back in the day, grabbing her latest conquest at 12.30 am on a friday night.

Then I reckon things would have been fine, but he left politicalised it...so we are where we are

Niamh. 13-06-2021 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11058232)
I know i was just responding to who was taking the knee before games only seen England and Belgium so far, not seen the start of all the games though

[emoji106]

Zizu 13-06-2021 06:54 PM

They should encourage fans to cheer wildly when they kneel .. that would at least drown out any boos.

It worked well today .


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The Slim Reaper 13-06-2021 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11058243)
everyone knows fine well what the issue is, it is the connection with the far left political group BLM in SPORT and if people dont like it, they can express their opinion peacefully, which they have

Sorry bots, but this is mental. England fans have been connected to the far right for decades, and now the players have decided to support anti-racism, this is where you draw the line?

What are the connections with the far left, just out of interest, and what aims of BLM do you object to?

Oliver_W 13-06-2021 07:15 PM

I'm not a fan of BLM or any rioters, and I think kneeling on the ground makes them look daft and is performative rubbish

BUT it's not an argument worth having, even Piers Morgan supports the gesture...

Crimson Dynamo 13-06-2021 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11058312)
They should encourage fans to cheer wildly when they kneel .. that would at least drown out any boos.

It worked well today .


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All you heard was booing

Despite fake BBC noises and hopefully the boos will get louder till this silly extreme left woke thing is over

Zizu 13-06-2021 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11058333)
All you heard was booing

Despite fake BBC noises and hopefully the boos will get louder till this silly extreme left woke thing is over


Na .. loads of people were clapping and cheering ..


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Crimson Dynamo 13-06-2021 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11058360)
Na .. loads of people were clapping and cheering ..


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That was piped in fake BBC sound effects. I have 2 pals there.
It was booooooooooooooo

bots 14-06-2021 04:15 AM

i don't know about boos or not but the crowd noise at that point was unnaturally loud for the small crowd in attendance :laugh:

Nicky91 14-06-2021 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11058333)
All you heard was booing

Despite fake BBC noises and hopefully the boos will get louder till this silly extreme left woke thing is over

no, we should continue with this

Ammi 14-06-2021 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11058312)
They should encourage fans to cheer wildly when they kneel .. that would at least drown out any boos.

It worked well today .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

…I don’t think they should encourage that because then that will become ‘the thing’ and a complete distraction, it’ll sadly be like a ‘game’ in itself of booing vs cheering which would be so wrong…the people who are making this gesture and taking the knee have repeatedly and repeatedly stressed that they are promoting equality and unity against racism and there is no political attachment to it…they’ve given their reasons for doing it …any ‘political’ is being attached with disregard of the intended meaning…

bots 14-06-2021 07:42 AM

the one that completely stuck out was the overly loud crowd noise at the england game. The actual knee event, if it does happen, lasts about 2 seconds max, so any crowd reaction would typically be of a similar duration.

Ammi 14-06-2021 07:48 AM

….well the reports seem to be that the support for the gesture was the thing much more overwhelmingly felt…:love:…

Crimson Dynamo 14-06-2021 04:10 PM

Farage slams those attempting to separate taking the knee from the BLM organisation
 


Nigel Farage has doubled down on his criticism of the England football team
for its decision to continue to take the knee before matches, claiming politics
should be kept out of football.

Speaking during an interview with the newly-launched GB News channel on
Sunday night, Farage insisted the taking the knee gesture is synonymous
with the far-left Black Lives Matter political organisation.

“You cannot separate taking the knee from the Black Lives Matter movement.
It is an avowedly, openly Marxist organsiation that wants to defund the
police and bring down the whole of Western civilisation,” Farage claimed.


“Don’t take my word for it – just read the website! You can’t separate the
two. And I think Gareth Southgate who I admire in so many ways, when he
said this week: ‘We are about more than football’ – no, Mr Southgate, you
are about football.

https://foxhole.news/2021/06/14/fara...-organisation/

Crimson Dynamo 14-06-2021 04:14 PM


Liam- 14-06-2021 04:33 PM

Taking the knee started with Colin Kaepernick and he has nothing to do with the BLM ‘organisation’ it’s a physical symbol against racism, but people like Farage and his knuckle dragging, flag waving, bigoted moron fans, are frankly terrified of black people having more of a say in anything, so try and push this narrative that blm is trying to take over the world, it’s actually sickening

Crimson Dynamo 14-06-2021 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11058700)
Taking the knee started with Colin Kaepernick and he has nothing to do with the BLM ‘organisation’ it’s a physical symbol against racism, but people like Farage and his knuckle dragging, flag waving, bigoted moron fans, are frankly terrified of black people having more of a say in anything, so try and push this narrative that blm is trying to take over the world, it’s actually sickening

so the England players are on their knees because they could not stand to show pride in the USA flag as it represents country that oppressed black people.

The English football team?

are you sure?

bots 14-06-2021 04:52 PM

taking the knee at football matches started at the moment of the blm protests, check the time line. If it originated years back they would have done it years back


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