Todays CCTV systems would have kept those numbers to one.

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It seems very selective reading on your part Parmnion tbqh

Things to be thankful for

Kids no longer in school :worship:

:laugh: I have 2 more years to go

What part?

The part regarding non parents telling parents they are **** parents for deciding what their kids need during a school day, or the other part...

Because one is far more serious than the other...

Seems like reactionary posts to me

Yeah...well dezzys seems like an over the top response, and a very insulting nasty one as well..

It offended me as a parent, and you should delete it.

Are you saying Dezzy can't have an opinion because he's not a parent? The forum doesn't work like that I'm afraid

Are you just nit picking at me, my non offensive post pointing out how the thread had turned into insulting Lt.

You decided to pick up on that post and ignore that part of it to point out I had missed something..

You chose to do all that than address dezzys post as a parent yourself??

That's very telling and just shows what a useless effort you mods put in these days.

May as well allow dezzy back on the team, which of course he still is anyway.

No I'm not nit picking, I'm pointing out that the first person to make accusations about how good or bad a parent is on this thread was in fact LT, which you chose to ignore.

I won't comment on the rest of your post because it's quite petty and I'm not getting drawn in to that with you. Have a good day.

I’ve heard some schools of thought (escuse the noun) that suggest they could be incorporated into classes in creative ways as well, although personally I am against that but from another angle: I think it opens up an awful lot of inequality and competition between kids… some kids breezing through on new or newish “flagship” handsets whilst other frustratedly wait for their £50 Alcatel (or obsolete model phone) to load the app at all.

My wife (and to be fair to her, she is a heavy phone user for work) gets the “newest” flagship model every 2 years which means my eldest also gets a fairly new top brand phone every 2 years, but it’s really as a byproduct of my wife liking to get the newest one every upgrade. I’d be wary of a situation where kids start being EXPECTED to have a phone as part of school equipment.

There’s already been enough of that with the lockdown situation; some kids with geeky dads having no tech issues because they’re doing their school work on a 32” 4K screen on a gaming pc, while others are in the google classroom chat crying and frustrated because the ****ey Chromebook provided by the council won’t even load the work.

“Tech privilege” could quickly become a thing. It’s not even necessarily a money issue, my daughter has friends from properly well-off families who just “don’t do tech” and don’t allow the kids to have a pc / they themselves are happy with older phones so the kids have REALLY ancient ones. Usually the kids who were “later in life” to be honest and have parents already into their 50’s (and who are this a bit backwards and don’t really understand how integrated tech is into everything these days).

Interesting TS.

To be fair, everyone can have an opinion on parenting because whilst not everyone HAS children, everyone HAS BEEN a child, so it is relevant to everyone. Like… they did have parents and had friends with parents and can make a judgement call on what was and wasn’t working.

I won’t disagree that becoming a parent offers a different perspective, just as hitting the different “stages” does (e.g. I had all sorts of ideas about what parenting a teen would be like that went out the window when one actually hit adolescence).

But being able to offer different perspectives doesn’t mean that someone with no kids has “no perspective” - especially when not all parents are in agreement.

As a rule of thumb, I think if someone with no kids is being repeatedly told the same thing by EVERYONE who does have kids then it would be sensible to listen. But if people who are parents are not in agreement on an issue then… :shrug: all perspectives are surely valid.

Obviously it’s rarely as simple as “good parents” and “bad parents”, just good and bad decisions, and all parents will have a mix of both.

bit harsh, my phone is about 5 years old, only because I have no interest in phones, and I don't agree with changing a phone every 5 minutes, my eldest son who is very techy has a 5 year old phone as well, mainly because he is not into buying new stuff, his current coat he bought when he started Uni, which was 5 years ago now, when I suggest he gets a new coat he says what for, this one is fine :laugh: so its not all about being 'backwards' :hmph:

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Ok fair enough it depends on what you use things for - I personally agree on phones, despite being techy, I’m not all that arsed for them and so long as they do the basics (WhatsApp, Tapatalk :hee:, banking apps) I don’t really care what phone I have… I’d rather spend available tech funds on a PC upgrade or a laptop than a phone (you could get a top of the line powerhouse of a laptop for the monthly cost of a flagship phone, which is pretty crazy).

But the overall message remains the same - if you want to do any “heavier” work on a phone then older or cheaper ones are frustrating and slow vs newer ones so if all the kids have different phones, it’s an inequality in terms of their learning. My daughter always has decent phones but it’s only because my wife gets herself new phones. I certainly wouldn’t want to feel “forced” into spending that sort of money every couple of years (or a large monthly contract outgoing) because it was necessary for school.

my family get tech hand me downs from me all the time, and i'm an old fart TS (tsk tsk)

But yes, the world of tech is not an equal one at any demographic for any number of reasons and children's education should be equal opportunity as far as is possible

Well, actually, I would find any parent sending their kid to school and not dropping them off negligent!! Unless they are getting school transport. I don't think at that age a child should be made to go get a bus on there own. Depending on age obviously but unless you're reaching 15/16 then I don't really think it's acceptable imo.



Searching children's stuff is actually allowed, but you have to have sufficient grounds.

You could say this about anything and everything.

It's life. You don't know what you don't have.

Parents should bring their children up to be thankful for what they have got not what they haven't.

As a child I wanted a lot of things and didn't get them. Tough titty.

I’m not talking about simple “mine is better than yours” competition, I’m saying that if they go down the route of actually using phones/apps as part of lessons (as has been suggested before) then there is a literal imbalance in terms of learning because of “tech inequality” - e.g. a kid with an iPhone 12 being half way through their work while the kid rocking a Galaxy S6 is still waiting for the app to finish installing.

Yeah, but this isn't going to happen and if it did then the school would probably provide the equipment.

Just as you wouldn't go into a science lesson and be asked to provide your own bunsen burner :joker:

What about parents who have to be at work before kids start school? Dropping them off is fantastic, in theory, but people have to work :shrug:

Well they need to assess their situation.

A child's safety is more important than them getting in on time.

Speak to your employer. Change your job, make it work. Each organisation should have a policy and procedure on flexible working patterns in relation to childcare and/or adaptations. It's a privilege to have a child.

The amount of children I see walking alone who look knee high to a grasshopper is ridiculous.

The object of School is to learn Maths, English and Science. You can't do that if you're giving all your attention to Tiktok, Snapchat and Facebook instead.

I can’t believe this rule is not already in place.

Well it already is.

All schools will have a policy on the use of mobile phones.

5 pages on this :joker:

It already happens, but children are children and will push boundaries.

Lets listen to teachers and not hide behind "they need it in case they get kidnapped"
 

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/wp-content...-exp-140px.jpg

When I reflect on my own classroom experience – impromptu bag searches for
lost/stolen phones that pull in three members of staff; managing the fallout of a
sext; time spent liaising with police to circumvent a fight planned over a
WhatsApp message in the PE changing rooms; students late to class finishing a
level of their game – I know phones are an unnecessary distraction that takes
teachers away from what they are ultimately there to do.

Banning phones from the classroom shouldn’t be dismissed as a political dog
whistle but as a common-sense way to help get the best outcomes for pupils.
Just as taking children out of school for a holiday during term is now widely
seen as unacceptable, other avoidable distractions from learning should be
treated the same way.

Now is the time to remove all mobiles from every school, and to put this tired
old debate behind us for good.

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/no-ifs-no-...necessary-now/

what a pity you did not read what the teacher said above you :joker:

"Banning phones from the classroom shouldn’t be dismissed as a political dog
whistle but as a common-sense way to help get the best outcomes for pupils."

oop

Is LT allowed to concentrate on his phone whilst you're teaching him?

:joker:

the only person who said fact is you

do pay attention in class

so you got called out and you decided to insult me

I don't mind you criticising my jokes, I can take it, I'm a man.

ORDERRRRR

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What a load of utter drivel, I suspect this is indeed one of the areas where people who have no experience of being a parent should perhaps listen to people with kids.

“Knee high to a grasshopper” I agree, I don’t think kids under 10 should be making their own way to or from school, but beyond that, phased independence is absolutely vital to normal childhood development. The idea that kids should be escorted to and from the school gate right up until age 15/16 and (presumably?) not allowed other independence outside of the house is completely ludicrous and unrealistic.

If you live in a particularly risky inner-city/town area then there are SOMETIMES other considerations, but really that’s the exception. There is absolutely nothing wrong with encouraging teenagers to responsibly make their way to and from school, and in fact I’d argue that those who are hand-held until 16 are going to find themselves woefully ill-prepared for the world in their later teens and early adulthood.

I said unless you're 15 or 16 so was suggesting younger.

Resilience helps children and young people develop, but it needs to age appropriate and safe.

I also said alone.

I don't need to be a parent to understand. I have more knowledge about developmental progress and experience looking after children and young people than your average because I do it day in day out and am trained to do so.

A lot of your words that you've written yourself not mine.