Mexico is the country with the second highest population of Catholics (following Brazil), and Latin America in general is majority Catholic. Catholicism has a dim view of abortion, and as a religion probably aligns more with the Republicans than Dems.

Yeah me too, I'm glad I don't work with Texas anymore tbh

Bit daft to call a place scum, but I suppose it's all you've got left now you've basically called the entire worlds population scum in one way or another.

Just seen this on twitter and I assume it's something to do with what this thread is about so I thought I'd post it.

Sing and dance along if you like.

It's absolutely disgusting just how backwards it is.

Also read a twitter post yesterday about it and the poster was saying how terrible it is and that 'people with a uterus should be allowed to make their own choices'

Yeah that'll be women then ffs

Yes people with Penises shouldn't have a say :hee:

It’s extremely backwards but then that is Texas for you!

Men have absolutely no business deciding what women should be doing with their lives, especially when it comes to something they cannot and will never experience. Also - if you're arguing that women should simply "be more careful" - your reductionism is noted. Perhaps educate yourselves on some of the reasons why a woman might be looking to have an abortion in the first place before you comment on what they should be doing to avoid it.

Have the trans people dipped their big toes in the debate in america yet?

Yes, my husband is Texan. He's not Jewish though...

A bit of Stevie, with some Texas blues.

I bet nobody who voted on this has a license to foster or donates to group homes full of children or volunteers at women's shelters.. I bet nobody backing it in this thread does any of that either. Pro-pregnancy is not the same as pro-life, because those little lives will grow up broken if their parents are forced to bring them into the world.

You have no idea what anyone in this thread does or doesn't do.

Abortion's only been legal in Portugal for 12 years, before which time you could be thrown into jail for three years for trying to get an abortion. And even now the cut off is 10 weeks.

Anyone who wants to use their time fighting Texas while FGM and child marriage exists, good luck with that.

Good point Livia.

I disagree with this... as many horrific examples of abuses as there are out there in the world, sensibly you have to save most of your concerns for the ones that you can realistically affect, and that realistically affect you. Thus, at the very least, Texans themselves and Americans in general should understandably be very concerned about these new laws and put more energy into fighting them.

There's also realistically more chance of the UK following the US when it comes to political and cultural changes than the Middle East or Africa ... so yes I think it's perfectly reasonable for people in the UK to be more urgently concerned about incoming abortion laws to the West of us than they are about child marriage and FGM to the East.

Yes exactly. Also, it's not a very good argument to say that you can't speak or be concerned about one thing because there's something else over there that's worse.

Ben and his take on this

I don't think it's just "leftists" that agree with abortion LT.

it's religion plain and simple, together with the need to subjugate. Anyone trying to claim otherwise is lying

In the video he is taking it to specific "leftists" and their arguments so I dont think it means all people who oppose abortion but i did not write it.

I'll listen to the video later, can't atm

He didn't do a very good job, he's outlined that Texas has used a legal technicality/loophole to create an anti-abortion mechanism that circumvents the established legality of such laws. That it was possible to do so is a failure of the US legal system, but it doesn't "end" any argument against it at all. The way it's been done, as described by Shapiro, is dodgy as ****.

When we had the abortion referendum here a few years back, I found from speaking to people about it beforehand that those who were the most "pro life" were people who had no clue or experience in what taking responsibility for raising a child and bringing a child into the world really meant. A lot were men too. I was shocked by how many much older women (mass goers) voted pro choice.

He describes how the legal arguments people are making against it don't fly because of the way Texas has (deliberately) set this up using loopholes that quite blatantly fall outside of the way one would normally expect such laws to operate (i.e. they abuse civil liability proceedings to create a pseudo-enforcement mechanism that circumvents the Roe vs Wade precedent but achieves the same outcome in effect).

He's succeeded in signposting me to the fact that the situation is actually worse than what I had assumed.

Yikes!

Please tell me nobody on here agrees with this psychopath?

:umm2:

Whole load of nonsense even asking these questions, as absolutely no one on earth is campaigning or wanting murder made legal, so I expect she just refused to play her stupid games.

Depends if you think she was legitimately answering the questions or just dismissing the interviewer. Common sense would say the latter.

She looked fairly legitimate, I don't know her character so I just have to take her as meaning it at this point.

don't mess with texas bitch.

Does it matter if she was "real" or if people agree with her? Some people think abortions should be allowed at 7+ months, or that the world was created by a skydaddy ... Neither belief has any validity, but also both beliefs are held by a lot of people.

i don't think the woman being asked the question is blessed with much grey matter and the other side did that interview to stitch her up and put womens rights down. It's so obviously a setup

All she had to say was "no I don't agree with that" to the question that already born children should be terminated, it's not difficult to say that to that question, but she answered the question by saying more or less the opposite to that. Her answer was that she believes a woman should have the right to take a child's life even at two years old.

she was singled out and used for propaganda, and its obvious to me she has a learning problem

She’s should have said you are just being silly now and shut the interviewer down, the interviewer got what she wanted