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arista 17-03-2022 04:06 PM

Live in Parliament
Minister is speaking

Vanessa 17-03-2022 04:10 PM

800 people sacked, just like that. Grim

arista 17-03-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11146807)
800 people sacked, just like that. Grim


Yes, but they can go Bankrupt
if they do not change staff.


Massive debts on P&O Ferries

They had no choice
get cheaper staff or close down

arista 17-03-2022 04:18 PM

A Transport Minister (Robert Courts MP)
stated in Parliament, he is Angry with P&O.



But not doing much.

arista 17-03-2022 04:28 PM

A Labour MP
just said, it is like the Victorian Times
when workers are forced off a boat.

That special debate in Parliament
has now ended

UserSince2005 17-03-2022 04:30 PM

Good, its a business not a charity.

rusticgal 17-03-2022 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11146809)
Yes, but they can go Bankrupt
if they do not change staff.


Massive debts on P&O Ferries

They had no choice
get cheaper staff or close down


Thats all very well....but you dont treat your staff like that.

Vanessa 17-03-2022 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11146835)
Thats all very well....but you dont treat your staff like that.

I agree, it's not right.

arista 17-03-2022 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11146835)
Thats all very well....but you dont treat your staff like that.


They could not give warnings
due to the Unions.

bots 17-03-2022 05:27 PM


arista 17-03-2022 05:46 PM

Yes a mega shock for many.


Covid has wrecked the World.

arista 17-03-2022 05:49 PM

British Airways
also did Fire and Re Hire.
Most kept their jobs

Cherie 17-03-2022 05:54 PM

All the officers have been redeployed, its the Ratings that have been made redundant

There will be winners of course, those close to retirement may welcome this

Feel for all the rest

rusticgal 17-03-2022 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11146856)
British Airways
also did Fire and Re Hire.
Most kept their jobs

On lower money….the longer serving staff were forced to sign new contracts and some were simply made redundant.

arista 17-03-2022 06:03 PM

Ian Dale
on LBC Live

Said the Government should Nationalize P&O Ferries

MTVN 17-03-2022 06:08 PM

Redundancy is a fact of life and sometimes has to be done but there's ways to do things

I thought unions legally had to be involved in proceedings as well, this totally flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about the process lol

arista 17-03-2022 06:11 PM

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arista 18-03-2022 05:45 AM

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arista 18-03-2022 05:46 AM

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arista 18-03-2022 05:47 AM

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arista 18-03-2022 05:49 AM

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arista 18-03-2022 05:51 AM

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arista 18-03-2022 06:00 AM

Simon Calder
on GMBHD itv
has found out they are registered
with a Firm in Jersey.

Which means, they are Not under UK Employment Rules

bots 18-03-2022 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147011)
Simon Calder
on GMBHD itv
has found out they are registered
with a Firm in Jersey.

Which means, they are Not under UK Employment Rules

misinformation

They are employed in the UK and members of a union, so they are under uk rules, doesn't matter where the company is registered

arista 18-03-2022 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147019)
misinformation

They are employed in the UK and members of a union, so they are under uk rules, doesn't matter where the company is registered


Its Legal people
told him that

bots 18-03-2022 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147020)
Its Legal people
told him that

i know employment law arista, you obviously don't.

Anyway, provided they offer a severance package that equals or exceeds that specified by UK EMPLOYMENT LAW it is all irrelevant

arista 18-03-2022 07:01 AM

Times have changed



The National Min Wage
does not apply
in international routes, around $3 an hour

Karl Turner Labour MP Live on GMBHD itv

arista 18-03-2022 08:06 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...7535812875.jpg
[P&O Ferries is run by a Dubai-based firm
which is owned by the country's controversial
ruling family.
Pictured: DP World CEO Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03...7535812933.jpg
[Sulayem seen with Prince William
and former Foreign Secretary William Hague
at an Earthshot Prize event at
Dubai's Expo2020 earlier this year]

Vanessa 18-03-2022 10:02 AM

Apparently it's only British workers who have been sacked. The EU ones have not, because they're protected by EU laws. So much for Brexit making things better :skull:

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147066)
Apparently it's only British workers who have been sacked. The EU ones have not, because they're protected by EU laws. So much for Brexit making things better :skull:

I think you'll find that's project fear, Vanessa.

MTVN 18-03-2022 11:09 AM

Holly Cudbill, an employment lawyer from Blake Morgan, said that P&O Ferries' actions "were almost certainly illegal".

Although its boats sail around the world, she believes the firm's employees are covered by UK law.

In that instance, P&O Ferries should have consulted with unions and staff about potential dismissals and notified the government that hundreds of jobs were at risk, she told the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60789612

arista 18-03-2022 11:14 AM

"she believes the firm's employees"


But it is wrong
$3 a hour out at Sea

Does she know about that

bots 18-03-2022 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147088)
she believes the firm's employees


But it is wrong
$3 a hour out at Sea

Does she know about that

arista, you obviously don't know uk employment law, so stop with the misinformation when you dont know what you are talking about

arista 18-03-2022 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147089)
arista, you obviously don't know uk employment law, so stop with the misinformation when you dont know what you are talking about


That came from Labour MP Karl Turner

Not me,


He is not on about UK law
he's talking about International Waters

Stop being silly

bots 18-03-2022 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147098)
That came from Labour MP Karl Turner

Not me,

but you are repeating stuff without knowing if what they are saying is accurate, and thats wrong

arista 18-03-2022 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147099)
but you are repeating stuff without knowing if what they are saying is accurate, and thats wrong


He is a MP who was a sea Minister




I trust this MP
more than you

bots 18-03-2022 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147066)
Apparently it's only British workers who have been sacked. The EU ones have not, because they're protected by EU laws. So much for Brexit making things better :skull:

even when we were in the EU, we had different employment laws to other countries in europe. So, brexit didnt change that

The Slim Reaper 18-03-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147101)
even when we were in the EU, we had different employment laws to other countries in europe. So, brexit didnt change that

The new financial reality of importing and exporting to the UK and brexit red tape may well have caused it. There's a reason that French and Dutch workers remain employed.

Vanessa 18-03-2022 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11147085)
Holly Cudbill, an employment lawyer from Blake Morgan, said that P&O Ferries' actions "were almost certainly illegal".

Although its boats sail around the world, she believes the firm's employees are covered by UK law.

In that instance, P&O Ferries should have consulted with unions and staff about potential dismissals and notified the government that hundreds of jobs were at risk, she told the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60789612

I think it's definitely illegal and they can be sued

bots 18-03-2022 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147104)
I think it's definitely illegal and they can be sued

much of it is procedural, so that will get a slap on the wrist and nothing more. If P&O offer the statutory minimum or better severance package they have complied, people won't get their jobs back under any circumstances


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