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Oliver_W 12-11-2022 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11227799)
The Republicans were further ahead in Nevada but there's now only 0.1% in it apparently, I expect the Democrats will end up winning it which will make Georgia's run off redundant

The length of time it's taking to count the votes is a joke though and doesn't help build trust in the electoral process

Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment :hehe:

bots 12-11-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11227806)
Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment :hehe:

they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for :laugh:

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting :laugh: So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling station

Oliver_W 12-11-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11227827)
they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for [emoji23]

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting [emoji23] So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling station

I wasn't being entirely serious ;) that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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bots 12-11-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11227835)
I wasn't being entirely serious ;) that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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the point is that it isn't a sudden change, and it's operation is enshrined in state law. There have been no objections raised by either party to election officials

James 12-11-2022 10:04 AM

In UK General Elections all the votes get counted in less than twelve hours after polls close. :shrug:

Also, I remember one of the BBC correspondents commenting at the last election that one of the big problems with American elections is that each state is allowed to make its own election rules, and there isn't a standard system across the country. That makes legal challenges more likely.

bots 12-11-2022 10:17 AM

the election rules are different in different states. In Nevada, they dont stop accepting postal votes until this Monday and thats law. They also give postal voters an opportunity to sign their ballot paper until Monday, if they forgot :laugh: People may not like it, but its the state law

arista 12-11-2022 10:25 AM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11...8239493026.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...el-Boulos.html

arista 12-11-2022 02:50 PM

US Senate needs 51

Today Now

49 Republicans
49 Democrats

arista 13-11-2022 07:59 AM

US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

arista 13-11-2022 08:00 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhXEhd4X...jpg&name=small

arista 13-11-2022 08:17 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhMMULLW...jpg&name=small

Oliver_W 13-11-2022 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11228148)
US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

MTVN 13-11-2022 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11228166)
So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

Georgia won't be decided until December but it doesn't matter in practice now, if it's 50/50 the Dems retain control as the Vice President has the tie breaker

joeysteele 13-11-2022 09:34 AM

Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

arista 13-11-2022 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11228166)
So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

No

Not all the states are in.

bots 13-11-2022 10:46 AM

it will be weeks until the house is declared, but it's going to be a very small majority whoever ends up winning it

Oliver_W 13-11-2022 11:15 AM

Jesus :joker: how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

bots 13-11-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11228206)
Jesus :joker: how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

they have all sorts of state laws in place to make sure everything is verified and double checked at every stage, it takes an enormous amount of time. Also, its not like here where the winner takes over the next day. The new session doesnt start until January, so they have plenty time

Oliver_W 13-11-2022 12:24 PM

Yeah I'm sure they have to ensure they get the right result.

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Mystic Mock 13-11-2022 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11228191)
Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

joeysteele 13-11-2022 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11228255)
Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

Yes that's all true Mock.
Good points.

bots 13-11-2022 04:31 PM

people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country? :laugh:

arista 13-11-2022 05:28 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhdoLb5X...jpg&name=small

Alf 13-11-2022 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11228298)

The amount off propaganda on that one page is of the scale.

You seriously need me back on here. Arista is gonna rot your minds

Alf 13-11-2022 07:27 PM

Red wave.

Mystic Mock 14-11-2022 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11228278)
people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country? :laugh:

It's a fair point.

I do feel like those 200 will feel less emboldened now that their viewpoint has been rejected yet again though.

Mystic Mock 14-11-2022 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11228352)
Red wave.

It's actually a possibility for them if they learn to respect democracy, plus back away from Trump who is giving them an horrendous image to middle ground voters in America.

bots 14-11-2022 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11228458)
It's a fair point.

I do feel like those 200 will feel less emboldened now that their viewpoint has been rejected yet again though.

they have just been elected though, so they will be feeling very emboldened :laugh:

It's true that high profile result deniers didn't get elected but an awful lot did, including a qanon supporter

To provide a bit of further context, the media and the dems are publicising the results in swing elections where the results were in doubt and saying democracy won, but most seats are safe and the incumbent gets re-elected easily. Those are the majority and those are also where the majority are happy to dispense with democracy and deny election results

Alf 14-11-2022 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11228462)
they have just been elected though, so they will be feeling very emboldened :laugh:

It's true that high profile result deniers didn't get elected but an awful lot did, including a qanon supporter

to provide a bit of further context, the media and the dems are publicising the results in swing elections where the results were in doubt and saying democracy won, but most seats are safe and the incumbent gets re-elected easily. Those are the majority and those are also where the majority are happy to dispense with democracy and deny election results


Alf 14-11-2022 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11228459)
It's actually a possibility for them if they learn to respect democracy, plus back away from Trump who is giving them an horrendous image to middle ground voters in America.

How is Trump giving them an horrendous image?

There's never been a more popular candidate with the people in my lifetime.

Just look at his rallies. Just look at what his war mongering, establishment opposition would go to to stop him.

bots 14-11-2022 12:03 PM

Biden was more popular, he got more votes than Trump

Alf 14-11-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11228571)
Biden was more popular

Yeah, you could tell by his packed to the rafters rallies and the "Let's go Brandon" chants at stadiums.

Don't you have any comment on the 10 minutes of Democrats denying election results video I posted?

bots 14-11-2022 12:10 PM

keep denying it Alf, but Biden was more popular than Trump as the votes showed

Alf 14-11-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11228576)
keep denying it Alf, but Biden was more popular than Trump as the votes showed

Not just more popular than Trump. But easily more popular than any candidate ever.

Trumps numbers made him one of the most popular ever too.

With Biden's numbers then he's nailed on to win again.

I think future candidates should take a leaf out of Joe's campaigning book and spend that campaigning time in the basement and not on the road. It was certainly the greatest tactic ever.

arista 14-11-2022 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11228339)
The amount off propaganda on that one page is of the scale.

You seriously need me back on here. Arista is gonna rot your minds



No, all views are valid
The Democrats in 2016
could not believe they lost.

The same with Brexit
the remoaners were in shock.



All USA Front pages are needed on this current thread

arista 14-11-2022 01:11 PM

President Biden
Now taking questions in Bali.


He is standing firm on Taiwan

arista 14-11-2022 01:23 PM

An American among the press team
asked Biden about Abortion rights,

Biden did not want to speak about that
He Left.

arista 14-11-2022 02:30 PM

USA now has over $31 Trillion in Debt.

That is Not healthy, Alf.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/04/e...ion/index.html


Sign Of The Times

Alf 14-11-2022 05:18 PM

FTX

Sam Bankman-Fried


What's the story?

bots 14-11-2022 05:27 PM

nothing to do with the mid terms


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