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Zizu 08-11-2023 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ChalkOutlineMan (Post 11377976)
What's the circumstantial evidence?


Have you been watching the series


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Ray. 08-11-2023 01:04 PM

Ffs Zizu what's the circumstantial evidence?

GlitterUK 08-11-2023 02:07 PM

1+1 = 3 in some peoples minds.

Zizu 08-11-2023 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11378076)
1+1 = 3 in some peoples minds.


More a case of x+ y = z

Z = Racism


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Beso 08-11-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11377956)
There is a good deal of circumstantial evidence though


Just because none of them have openly said anything doesn’t mean they’re not racist


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Can you explain their friendships with dylan, zak, and noky please. And yinrun.

Swan 08-11-2023 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11378107)
More a case of x+ y = z

Z = Racism


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So by your reckoning, if someone say, white doesn't get on with a black person, or like that black person, they're racist.

I see you in the football threads slating lots of players who happen to be black, you are obviously and quite clearly a massive racist!

Zizu 08-11-2023 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11378119)
Can you explain their friendships with dylan, zak, and noky please. And yinrun.


Disingenuous
Fake
For the cameras

They weren’t close to Dylan - nobody was
They used to call Zac for spreading himself too thin and thus game playing ..

Yinrun has complained repeatedly that nobody outside her own little circle speak to her or show any GENUINE interest in her


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Beso 08-11-2023 03:08 PM

Clutching zizu.

vesavius 08-11-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11378119)
Can you explain their friendships with dylan, zak, and noky please. And yinrun.

"I am not racist, some of my best friends are black"

I mean, despite their many character flaws, I don't think the Gremlins are racist, but that's what your comment comes across as.

Benjamin 08-11-2023 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11377941)
Trish's friend has mentioned racism and she has written to the producers she stated on twitter. Unless it is just creating more hype around Trish to push her to the win?

I honestly think it’s this. I like Trish (and dislike the gremlins) but I can’t see any evidence of racism towards her. Her friend would know as much as us as we all watch the same highlights/live feed.

This could could lead to a back lash on Trish without Trish actually doing anything wrong if her friend isn’t careful.

Maru 08-11-2023 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 11374164)
I’m actually impressed that it’s taken this long for the non-existent racism accusations to come out. Sure it’s usually earlier than this from what I remember.

I'm enjoying being back but I never liked these types of threads. They're never resolved and it's basically two sides pushing a hard view until it becomes a fractured mess. All that said, here I am anyway because coffee :laugh:


On topic, I don't think it's impossible there's a racial stereotype playing out in to some of the commentary re: Trish, but where is the line where Trish could do with also do with some more humility in her depiction of other people's perspectives (ie not her own)?

She likes to "retell" the reactions of other people under a simpler narrative and I find that to be dogmatic and not conducive to building common ground with the other HMs. That's not to say she is "wrong". She can be very right in her general perspective at any point. But that skips empathy entirely and misses the boat on understanding where the views of others come from. After all she has confidence and obviously being outspoken she is testing her views, so she can still hit the nail on the head. It's just very easy to live by one's persona on an island of me with that mindset and that's just a common side effect of needing to constantly make one's POV known. It's much harder to do the other way and actually lean into other people's point of views, even if it's completely the opposite of what one actually believes.

Just a thought.

Vanessa 08-11-2023 06:42 PM

I don't think they are.

GlitterUK 09-11-2023 11:23 AM

I don't think we have ever has a series where the racism/bullying/journey buzzwords haven't been used.

I think people dislike personalities and it has nothing to do with skin colour.


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