Maybe another bug though .. why take a chance

:)


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Sam had the best edit last night and has gone to 4/7 in the betting but I still don't think he's got it in the bag. Tony is mega popular on Facebook especially with the older ones who are more likely to vote.

Personally I don't think it's fair that he came in nearly a week late and hasn't gone through the earlier trials and jumping out of helicopters to get to camp. He was probably chauffered in and then a short walk into camp with Frankie. If Sam wasn't there to play him up he wouldn't have got the airtime and be nearly as popular as he seems to be. It might be controversial but without Sam he seems a bit of a dullard.

I like Tony, but I think you have a point here. I think Sam has actually brought out the best side of many of those in camp, in particular Tony, Marvin and Nick. Even Nigel is showing tolerance with him. In some way, we’ve seen qualities of camp mates characters that perhaps we wouldn’t have without Sam’s presence, which is a good thing as it all makes up the person they are, and makes them all more interesting to watch.

Good points, I totally agree.

When he wins he might aswell laugh in everyone's faces and scream "ha ha i fooled you all" .

I don't think so Sam doesn't seem to have a nasty bone in his body, he might come across as a bit OTT but there's nowhere else left that deserves to win and I certainly can't see anyone in there that can stop him now. Tony Bellend is starting to show a nasty side and while Nigel Farage is coming up fast on the rails I certainly can't see him beating Sam.

Of course Sam is going to win it's so predictable.

Fooled you all about what?

Everything
I guess he didn't win CBB because of his formal warning ,so now he's trying his luck at IAC ...and he knows he's going to win .

Formal warning ?

For what ?


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I thought everyone was a big Sam fan and followed his journey through TV lmao .

I only knew him from the love island chat show


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He slapped someone's breast/ nipple, they were wearing a see through top or something. And he thought it was funny. And the person gasped that it hurt . But I think she said she was ok about it after BB asked her. Probably because she was friends with him.

That’s faulty processing … akin to throwing little stones onto Tony’s face .. one hit him in his eye .. luckily it was closed at the time


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So basically Sam can do what he wants and we have to excuse it as his 'ADHD' . He's a grown ass 30 year old man . Even if a child is misbehaving with additional needs ,you still address that what they're doing is wrong . You don't just say " oh well they can't help it ", obviously you try to have a better understanding ...but you don't just let off their bad behaviour.

Sam is Peter Griffin

I wouldn’t say it’s an excuse… as neither examples are acceptable.. simply a reason.


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Well it is an excuse , as back in BB I don't think he was diagnosed with ADHD . But now anything he does is seen as 'endearing ' & 'funny', because bless him he has ADHD. Anne Hegerty was in the jungle a few years ago ,and she has autism :shrug: .

Every single person on the spectrum are unique though , just like fingerprints


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The thing is, the camp mates don’t seem to have the issue you do with Sam, who is obviously very popular amongst them. They are all grown adults, old enough and strong enough to speak up for themselves, if they feel the need. They just don’t.

Sam is harmless, he really hasn’t done anything terrible, and is more mischievous than anything else. Some viewers may find him irritating, but many don’t. It’s all down to personal preferences and tolerances, but is he really so bad in the great scheme of things that he is deserving of constant criticism?

Great post :clap1:

He isn't everyone's cup of tea but very strange some of the vitriol he is getting. It's like people think he has some weird power over production and his camp mates.

He would drive me mad if I were in there but I like him a lot

He was only diagnosed recently, which is not unusual. Many adults, who have spent their whole lives either being or feeling not quite able to fit into society’s norms, are diagnosed as either autistic, ADHD or both in adulthood. This is because understanding and testing were not very widely available when they were younger, especially as these conditions tend to be part of a spectrum, so vary widely in terms of symptoms and severity.

People who were, in the past, seen as ‘odd’ might well have had either of these issues. It’s similar to dyslexia which was often seen as lack of ability or intelligence back in the day, but is now understood and identified more easily.

As humans, we make advances in our understanding of how the brain functions all the time, and this is surely a good thing. If it helps us to be less dismissive and judgemental of others, surely this is positive progress.

There is a certain amount we can address and control in our personalities, behaviours and in our thinking, but if the brain functions differently, it really isn’t a simple case of mind over matter. It’s similar to dementia - you cannot just think yourself better, as it is beyond your control.

Yes, that’s exactly it! Oh, to have Sam’s superpower! :laugh:

And, if he truly does have this ability, maybe he deserves to win!?

Move over, Darren Brown! Here comes Sam Thompson! :laugh:

:notimpressed: .

I'm well aware of people getting diagnosed later in life as being on the spectrum.

But it's like with tourettes, I watched a documentary where some people were accused of faking/ exaggerating their tourettes to get away with offensive language/ behaviour.

Because once you say someone is autistic or ADHD or has tourettes ,then they get a pass automatically.

And no I'm not downplaying people's difficulties with these conditions :shrug: .

Does any one really need an excuse to get away with bad language, when plenty of people use swear words as part of their vocabulary even when they don’t have Tourette’s?

Either way, those on the Autistic Spectrum don’t know or understand how to play up their condition, as it seems totally normal to them. There is a childlike innocence to those with Autism, and they don’t tend to lie as they lack the ability to have much of a filter, so don’t recognise that their impulsive comments or actions can seem socially unacceptable. Add ADHD to that, and the impulsivity, excitability and boisterousness is intensified greatly.

Nigel summed up Sam perfectly this evening by recognising that, he can be irritating at times, but there is a childlike joy in him that just needs to be directed or redirected appropriately.

I understand thinking negatively about people if they lead their lives in a cruel, violent or abusive manner, but unending cynicism of those who intend and cause no real harm, can make us unjustifiably judgemental of others.

Oh give me a break . I'm not denying his issues and ADHD , but trying to get into bed with Tony ,when Tony was trying to sleep .....was clearly Sam pushing his buttons. Marvin knows he's a wind up aswell.

Yes, in his childlike way, he was partly pushing buttons for a laugh, as he fails to understand social norms or cues. That doesn’t mean he is playing up his condition. There is a difference.

Imagine having such a problem with someone on behalf of someone who very clearly adores Sam and plays along with him because he enjoys him and his antics

You’re right here. Liam. If Tony truly had any issue with Sam, I honestly think he has what it takes to tell him straight. He is a strong man mentally, as well as physically, and I can’t see him holding back.

I understand that some viewers might find Sam’s personality a bit much, and why sometimes the camp: mates might need some time out from his high energy. However, Tony can handle himself, and I’m sure he wouldn’t engage with Sam if he didn’t want to.

To his credit, Tony has shown great kindness, patience and understanding with Sam, but that’s because he feels such fondness for him. I find the relationship between them very positive and sincere.

Tony has really impressed me in there. I thought he was a know when he first went in but he has really shown a genuinely nice side of him. He would tell Sam in a heartbeat if he was pushing him too far. There is a level of vitriol aimed at Sam in this thread that is alarming. Accusing him of playing up to his ADHD is quite cruel. He is loving his time in there and just having fun and obviously expressing that.....God forbid someone isn't all doom and gloom and moaning about being starving all the time.

Tony has been fantastic and i would love him to win but we all know that won't happen,
Sam is going to win.

I couldn’t agree with you more on all points, Annie. The relationship between Sam and Tony was beautiful to see tonight, and it seems like Tony didn’t need anyone speaking out to protect him from Sam after all!

Well done to Sam for winning but for me it was the most predictable win that has ever been on this show. It was to much the Sam show i would just liked to see a bit more of the others.