Stopping Jewish student going to lectures is no different from stopping black students in the 60s. I think all the protesting students flying terrorist flags or stopping Jews passing should be ejected from their college immediately.

How many called for the release of Israeli hostages? If that happened there's be a ceasefire tomorrow.

Where was the compassion in 7th October?

They did a good job of putting out in full color display the emotionally manipulative argumentation that surrounds much of the rhetoric that leans pro-Hamas in the West. This only helps Israel in the end, as nothing of significance comes of it other than to show there is no basis for this behavior other than some young people have given themselves away to brainwashing.

Most adults can understand going to war is not black and white. Our family lost a cherished family member amongst others to one of Israel's military "mistakes" which was covered up by the US. That doesn't mean suddenly the US or Israel no longer have a duty to defend their populace. In the end, Israel and Hamas have gone to war and it has nothing to do with college systems, the supply chain of tents, Trumpian politics, gender ideology or the latest bird droppings on Twitter. It has everything to do with what has been happening locally to them and a vast majority have no idea what actually goes on there nor what it is like to live under the precipice of war along the border on either side. These students are delusional if they think their zealotry could ever be remotely on par with a person whose mortal existence is in actual daily question. I feel for both sides but I am not going to pretend I support repeated agitations by a terror group over perceived justifications. It has nothing to do with what happened on October 7th. It's totally fine to support the Palestinian people, their individual rights and hope for a peaceful outcome, but both sides have to work for it. If Israel or Hamas isn't interested in that, then naturally either will lose more support.

As to college students, there is an intellectual rot we will eventually all pay for thanks to the govt subsidizing greedy institutions (and ballooning rates). I get it, $20,000/yr tuition, or whatever it is now, and the college system might genuinely feel compelled to enable these student's belief that they are the exception to those who work hard over the years to achieve real progress. Recent generations generally speaking have said in innumerable ways they wouldn't lift a finger to help real people in need local to them as they have been ingrained to insist it is someone elses job. ie It is much easier to cry and complain what govt must do rather than to do the work themselves or contribute.

Real diplomats don't waste time playing pop-up protester as they can't let any time go to waste as it is too precious. People who rely on inflammatory rhetoric to try to get their way are not interested in diplomacy anyway. It is incredibly narcissistic to think because one reads the news and internet gossip far too regularly that they have a much better grasp on the complexities of international affairs and the human nature involved than those who work on these matters tirelessly in conditions where even a single mistake can be very costly. Having access to articles or clips is not the same as having to work under the pressure of having to make longlasting decisions where lives hang in the balance. My feelings are with the actual affected and those closest to conflict, not people who pretend they are being personally affected somehow.

Nothing like a strumpet to set the cat among the pigeons :laugh::laugh::laugh:

When did Netanyahu try to save the hostages. The IDF shot three of them that spoke Hebrew and waved a white flag.
Most of Gaza has been turned to dust, killing men, women, children, doctors and the press. They have been deliberately starved, had their water turned off and they've just discovered that patients in al-Aqsa hospital were led outside and executed and buried in a mass grave.

I think its clear to anyone who has been closely following this, understand that the Israeli hostages likely died in the mass bombing and starvation program.
Israeli government used the Hanibal directive on the 7th Oct, so clearly life of their own people is disposable, when they choose.

@ Maru
All democracies have a right to protest. Take away that right and we take away our democracy. People have always protested wars and up until now, people have accepted this. The problem here is, America, the UK and Germany are funding this war. Our tax money is going straight to Israel, when so many lives now need saving in Gaza.

Well that psycho needs to be arrested.

So what you guys are saying is, we should be good little folk and protect our government and gladly give them our tax money to do their dirty deeds?
When supporters of Mr Trump stormed Congress in January 21, there were a few people on here who hailed them as hero's and now they are saying we should fire water cannons on protestors... such hypocrisy!

It really is Liam.

It's not mutually exclusive to acknowledge the wrongs of both the University students, and what Israel is doing.

Unless we're seriously going to act like that there weren't banners calling for violence against the Jewish community at College Campuses?

Pro Israel agitator shouts, 'kill the Jews' and gets everyone arrested.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pro-is...-else-arrested

Wtf!

Maybe protest in a way which doesn't disrupt the education of others? Why target students?

I have a conspiracy theory that Netanyahu wanted Hamas to do what they did on October 7th, so that he could justify blitzing Gaza.

Obviously I have no proof of this, but it wouldn't shock me if in the decades to come that it gets confirmed to be true.

I support peaceful protests.

January 21st in my view was far from peaceful.

And this whole Israel and Palestine situation is just lacking nuance from both sides, it's being treated like it's two sports teams (who have a fierce rivalry) taking each other on, which I think that some people need to get out of this mindset, and acknowledge where both sides are going wrong.

Especially the people in Israel and Palestine, because if they can't acknowledge their wrongdoings, then there'll never be a solution to what I believe is a 7 decade problem.

That's not at all surprising. When we had potential for "riots" here (We are not rioting types...), suddenly stacks of bricks were stationed near the intended areas perfectly arranged (like off a truck...). You would've thought they were about to do some landscaping :laugh: Thankfully nothing came of it, but they did board up some buildings jic. Literally everyone that was picked up was from out of town and we know that for certain, because we saw the arrest records as they were coming in and going out on free bond...

So much of "protesting" is manufactured by third parties and is a racket to generate donations to tax shelters. The US has a social network called "Nextdoor" that can be joined if you sign up with proof of residency and we never see anything anti-public order being arranged on those sites and they're quite popular. One would think politics and such would spill over like it does on FB, but it doesn't (apparently) if accounts are checked and verified.

Live Police using Flash Bangs
outside

Riot in LA

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05...4647422896.jpg


Live SkyNewsHD

Police turning Tents with metal
all over.

fighting now


Protestors using Strobe Lights
at the Police
And also Bear Spray


BBC has moved back

Good on Northern Lass on SkyNewsHD
staying closer.

Early On

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/05...4646200893.jpg

The vast majority of Republicans just voted for a bill to criminalize criticisms of
the Israeli government. If the bill passes you will be guilty of hate speech if you
“apply double standards” to the government of Israel or accuse it of genocide.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMht3Z3W...jpg&name=small

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1785822439915889138

Charlie Kirk writes on X: It is patently insane for House Republicans to insert
themselves into the mayhem engulfing college campuses. Do not interrupt
your enemies when they're making a mistake!

Instead of passing anti-free speech laws that trample on the First
Amendment or inserting themselves behind a podium at Columbia, just allow
the left to continue embarrassing itself.

The whole world is watching what the leftwing ideology leads to: Bigoted,
petulant, entitled brats who hate America and demand vegan food drops.

It also leads to feckless leaders like Joe Biden admitting open terrorism
supporters into America for 100,000 "uncommitted" votes in Michigan.

Let red states deal decisively with lawless behvior.

Let the left wallow and writhe.

President Biden,
is a Fool not to speak on this,


These young voters can make him lose the Election.

President Biden
now finally talking.
Only in Brief.

Smashing Windows is not peaceful protestors
There is no place for antisemitism, he stated.

Again Refusing to take questions.

One Press Lady, Shouted should the National Guard
be brought in?

As he left he said NO

Its all over USA
Yesterdays Front Page

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMe-dBrW...pg&name=medium

Fair enough.

It's just all crazy to me tbh, I feel like I'm going Crazy myself just trying to comprehend all of the current affairs.:joker:

That's a very bad idea from the Republicans imo.

People should be allowed to say what they want about any group that they want, as long as it's not inciting or threatening behaviour.

The Republicans are seriously crossing free speech laws imo, but it's not the first time that a western country has crossed that line recently.

I mean who can forget the wonderful Police in the UK trying to arrest a girl for saying that one of the Police Officers "looked like a lesbian."

I know a lot of commentators are suggesting this. Right now though, that's just a conspiracy. That said, in a recent interview with Times Magazine," Trump said; "Netanyahu handled October 7th very badly. He had all the equipment and capability to stop that attack and a lot of people knew about it. You know, thousands and thousands of people knew about it but Israel didn't know about it.
Israel have some of the best intelligence on the planet and the most secure borders on the planet. They were warned by multiple allies of the upcoming attack and still they allowed it to happen "

This blasts a hole in the false narrative that Trump is subservient to Israel.

Who
And how credible?

Tbh I do believe Trump in what he is saying here too.

I say that because of the fact that the security at the borders were lowered on October 7th according to the reports that I have read, it's almost like they knew and wanted Hamas to come out and attack on that day.

That's my view on it anyway, and imo it still doesn't excuse Hamas's actions, but I don't trust Netanyahu as far as I can throw him.

They also moved the festival, on the 11th hour, closer to the borders of Gaza.

The thing is, Israel released so many falsehoods after Oct 7th
The beheaded babies and a baby cooked in an oven
The rape and cutting off the breasts of women.
Independent investigations can find zero proof of this. They know a child was killed in the crossfire and they know a pregnant woman gave birth to a stillborn baby.
The only woman they had who looked like she could of been raped, was injured but talking to her mother on the phone when she was shot and her family have said that the postmortem shows she wasn't raped.

As horrendous Oct 7th was, its obvious that our right wing media and the Israeli government are not being honest.

LA Police were using Flash Bangs on the Outside,
next to the Smelly Tents.

To break them up

clever move

https://www.wfyi.org/files/wfyi/prog...x9-scdpfpy.jpg


NYT Columnist and Duke Professor Frank Bruni says that college students
viewing the world through an oppressor vs. oppressed paradigm has led them
to advocating for Hamas and not even stopping to learn about what
happened in Israel on October 7.

"A lot of college students in this generation, there's a sort of paradigm they
use, or lens they use to kind of evaluate the world. And it's one in which
people who have less money, people who have less power, sometimes people
who have darker skin must inherently be being wronged and are therefore
most likely to be in the right.

I think you saw that play out after October 7. … If you looked at what
happened right after October 7, you saw a lot of young people not even take
a moment to really acknowledge what had happened in Israel, and how
horrific that was. They just kind of immediately applied this paradigm and
began advocating not just for Palestinians, but in a perverse way, at times
for Hamas."


https://x.com/RealSaavedra/status/1786184487648305620

The library at @Portland_State
has sustained extensive damage from days of occupation by far-left
extremists. They prepared improvised weapons and destroyed the fire alarms
so they could smoke. They stole rare books. The violence was committed “for
Gaza.”

Just look at the disgusting mess and damage these Anarchist far-left punks did:https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1786203390571413675

Yes, this needs to be on TV news.

Criminals Thiefs.

s
Shame the human rights lawyer Starmer doesn't educate himself!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMuPchfW...g&name=900x900


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMubL4RW...g&name=900x900

this is like listening to my father-in-law, the only son who got out of Poland during the Nazi uprising. Love the way his own children think like he does.