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Gusto Brunt 22-05-2024 06:04 PM

Sunak might do a John Major and get on his soap box and win. :p

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimed...pg?imwidth=680

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11454611)
Sunak might do a John Major and get on his soap box and win. :p

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/multimed...pg?imwidth=680

I stayed up all night for that count (in of all places Guildford)

Amazing

arista 22-05-2024 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11454592)
would not be surprised with the 2-tier woke Met police in Khan's London


Yes LT
could be


It was Big Steve Bray Protestor
with Big Amp and Speaker

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 06:36 PM

Trades Union Congress
@The_TUC

Forced to work in the rain unnecessarily?

Join a union.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOMsbIeW...jpg&name=small


https://x.com/The_TUC/status/1793327489709641843

arista 22-05-2024 06:49 PM

Starmer had to Big UK Flags
behind him................

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11454627)
Starmer had to Big UK Flags
behind him................

typical far-right flag-shagger

Glenn. 22-05-2024 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11454602)
they are the ones coming in on the 5th

Don’t care who it is just as long as the Tory reign ends

Zizu 22-05-2024 07:41 PM

General Election 2024 - 4th July!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11454640)
Don’t care who it is just as long as the Tory reign ends


Stephen Fry for prime minister !?


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Oliver_W 22-05-2024 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11454627)
Starmer had to Big UK Flags
behind him................

I bet that caused some whinging.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11454602)
they are the ones coming in on the 5th

They're both idiots imo.

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11454647)
They're both idiots imo.

Mock is most wise

MTVN 22-05-2024 08:31 PM

The optics of carrying out that speech while getting drenched with the music being blasted over it couldn't have been much worse

It had been raining all afternoon so not exactly a surprise. He should have either arranged some cover or just done a very short punchy speech

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11454659)
The optics of carrying out that speech while getting drenched with the music being blasted over it couldn't have been much worse

It had been raining all afternoon so not exactly a surprise. He should have either arranged some cover or just done a very short punchy speech

Not reading the room is peak Sunak and his **** advisors

bots 22-05-2024 08:41 PM

i don't think i've ever been less interested in the outcome of an election.

My feeling is that there are some really bad things coming in the fairly immediate future (june onward) and Sunak is holding the election now so that labour gets the blame for it

joeysteele 22-05-2024 08:49 PM

I think it showed poor judgement as usual in presenting such a long speech
I think it was arista who said he was giving a history lesson.

Clearly from Starmer and Labour they were up and ready to go rapidly afterwards with far less timing as to messaging.
I'm pleased to say and see for a change.

I'm glad the election he has called is at least done by the first week of July.
As I'm going to Rome later in July on holiday.
So thanks to Sunak for the election in the first week

So I've now got to ease work out the way and concentrate on helping leafleting and canvassing for Labour over the coming weeks.
I'm expecting a horrible campaign.
I've had hard-line Con voters screaming at me and the team I was canvassing with, that all of us in Labour should all be put in baths of acid.
In previous elections.
Charming.

No doubt a lot of mudslinging too but all Parties are good at that.

I'm also pleased the UK election will be over before the new election of the USA President.
Oh well, here we go.
What will be, will be.
I know what I'll work hard for and know what I'm hoping for.

I will cheer from the rooftops IF this Sunak led Con Party is well and truly booted out of government, AT LAST.

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11454680)
I think it showed poor judgement as usual in presenting such a long speech
I think it was arista who said he was giving a history lesson.

Clearly from Starmer and Labour they were up and ready to go rapidly afterwards with far less timing as to messaging.
I'm pleased to say and see for a change.

I'm glad the election he has called is at least done by the first week of July.
As I'm going to Rome later in July on holiday.
So thanks to Sunak for the election in the first week

So I've now got to ease work out the way and concentrate on helping leafleting and canvassing for Labour over the coming weeks.
I'm expecting a horrible campaign.
I've had hard-line Con voters screaming at me and the team I was canvassing with, that all of us in Labour should all be put in baths of acid.
In previous elections.
Charming.

No doubt a lot of mudslinging too but all Parties are good at that.

I'm also pleased the UK election will be over before the new election of the USA President.
Oh well, here we go.
What will be, will be.
I know what I'll work hard for and know what I'm hoping for.

I will cheer from the rooftops IF this Sunak led Con Party is well and truly booted out of government, AT LAST.

Imagine supporting a man who is scared to support women

Hideous

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11454671)
i don't think i've ever been less interested in the outcome of an election.

My feeling is that there are some really bad things coming in the fairly immediate future (june onward) and Sunak is holding the election now so that labour gets the blame for it

I agree on not being that interested in our Election tbh, I'm more into the American Election.:joker:

And you have an interesting theory, and it wouldn't shock me if you were right tbh, as the Tories do have a history of setting up other people up for their own incompetence these last 15 years.

joeysteele 22-05-2024 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11454681)
Imagine supporting a man who is scared to support women

Hideous

You support who you want and I'll support who I want.

We STILL have PARTY government in the UK.
Not a President.

I'll be voting for Labour and frankly don't care whether you'd approve or not.

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11454680)
I think it showed poor judgement as usual in presenting such a long speech
I think it was arista who said he was giving a history lesson.

Clearly from Starmer and Labour they were up and ready to go rapidly afterwards with far less timing as to messaging.
I'm pleased to say and see for a change.

I'm glad the election he has called is at least done by the first week of July.
As I'm going to Rome later in July on holiday.
So thanks to Sunak for the election in the first week

So I've now got to ease work out the way and concentrate on helping leafleting and canvassing for Labour over the coming weeks.
I'm expecting a horrible campaign.
I've had hard-line Con voters screaming at me and the team I was canvassing with, that all of us in Labour should all be put in baths of acid.
In previous elections.
Charming.

No doubt a lot of mudslinging too but all Parties are good at that.

I'm also pleased the UK election will be over before the new election of the USA President.
Oh well, here we go.
What will be, will be.
I know what I'll work hard for and know what I'm hoping for.

I will cheer from the rooftops IF this Sunak led Con Party is well and truly booted out of government, AT LAST.

Some people take their Politics way too seriously imo.

Who threatens that over someone supporting a Political Party? Especially a party that has moderate views.

I wouldn't agree with it, but if you were supporting Reform, UKIP, or some far left Party that might be running around, then I might understand it more because of the possibly extreme and vile views that can be held within far right and far left ideologies.

But some people would want to physically harm you for supporting Labour? That shows that those people are really far gone imo.

joeysteele 22-05-2024 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11454687)
Some people take their Politics way too seriously imo.

Who threatens that over someone supporting a Political Party? Especially a party that has moderate views.

I wouldn't agree with it, but if you were supporting Reform, UKIP, or some far left Party that might be running around, then I might understand it more because of the possibly extreme and vile views that can be held within far right and far left ideologies.

But some people would want to physically harm you for supporting Labour? That shows that those people are really far gone imo.

Oh crumbs that was usual Mock.

It's actually fun most of the time.
Even odd times we've been out leafleting then come across Con workers leafleting too in the same streets.
Once all done we've gone for a coffee together.
Most of us are reasonable and not getting the vile nonsense I mentioned earlier.

Sadly though we do now have to be careful.
All Parties but particularly Con and Labour.
Because of worries of things getting more hostile and even possibly dangerous.
We always work in teams now for safety.

It's great however when you get someone who wants to talk with you and engage with you too.
Doesn't matter who they're supporting either.
Plus it gets you out in the fresh air and good exercise too.

I head out with plenty mars bars because there's not much chance to eat really until night time when you stop for the day.

Cherie 22-05-2024 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11454640)
Don’t care who it is just as long as the Tory reign ends

what a stupid thing to say, lets get someone even worse in :laugh: no wonder the UK is in the ****, people voting for Brexit....and now lets just change for the sake of changing, at least see what the manifestos say before you jump fgs ..even you never voted Tory or Labour.....just think it through thoughtfully rather than launching straight in....jesus ...its not even clear cut anymore they are all so similar

Crimson Dynamo 22-05-2024 09:36 PM

At least Rishi sticks up for women and not bullying

I'd hate to support bullying

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11454694)
Oh crumbs that was usual Mock.

It's actually fun most of the time.
Even odd times we've been out leafleting then come across Con workers leafleting too in the same streets.
Once all done we've gone for a coffee together.
Most of us are reasonable and not getting the vile nonsense I mentioned earlier.

Sadly though we do now have to be careful.
All Parties but particularly Con and Labour.
Because of worries of things getting more hostile and even possibly dangerous.
We always work in teams now for safety.

It's great however when you get someone who wants to talk with you and engage with you too.
Doesn't matter who they're supporting either.
Plus it gets you out in the fresh air and good exercise too.

I head out with plenty mars bars because there's not much chance to eat really until night time when you stop for the day.

Well it's good that you guys have a good experience for the most part.

The extremists do need to be sent to a Mental Asylum though.

joeysteele 22-05-2024 09:49 PM

I actually think there's a lot of difference.

The Cons would never re-nationalise Railways as Labour plan to.

Labours ambitious Housing policy is nothing like the Cons.
Who've done next to nothing as to affordable housing rented or otherwise in 14 years.

The wasted cost of the detestable Rwanda plan will be halted by Labour with more concentration on the operators of those boats.

The NHS not now just on its knees after 14 years of Con government, but actually flat on its back.
Labour has plans to begin to help it recover.
It will need reform of course too.

A public owned green energy company wouldn't be even thought of from the Cons.
Which Labour will create.

Restoring back some workers rights which should never have been taken away.

Much more Id love to see from Labour but none of those things will come from the Cons and haven't in 14 YEARS.

Cherie 22-05-2024 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11454708)
I actually think there's a lot of difference.

The Cons would never re-nationalise Railways as Labour plan to.

Labours ambitious Housing policy is nothing like the Cons.
Who've done next to nothing as to affordable housing rented or otherwise in 14 years.

The wasted cost of the detestable Rwanda plan will be halted by Labour with more concentration on the operators of those boats.

The NHS not now just on its knees after 14 years of Con government, but actually flat on its back.
Labour has plans to begin to help it recover.
It will need reform of course too.

A public owned green energy company wouldn't be even thought of from the Cons.
Which Labour will create.

Restoring back some workers rights which should never have been taken away.

Much more Id love to see from Labour but none of those things will come from the Cons and haven't in 14 YEARS.

Much as I like to agree with you Joey I am going to wait the manifestos because for me now its very difficult to know where to vote, I have never voted Tory and have in the past voted Labour but last few times couldnt vote them either so honestly no clue who will get my vote this time maybe Indy even though its wasted but at least its a vote

joeysteele 22-05-2024 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11454710)
Much as I like to agree with you Joey I am going to wait the manifestos because for me now its very difficult to know where to vote, I have never voted Tory and have in the past voted Labour but last few times couldnt vote them either so honestly no clue who will get my vote this time maybe Indy even though its wasted but at least its a vote

That's all fine Cherie.

Your vote is your vote
Where you cast it is for you to decide who will deliver most or some of what you'd want or believe to be better than has been.

I'm overjoyed that you intend to use your vote.
For whoever.
It's why I support PR to help people feel more that their votes aren't wasted whoever they vote for.

:joker:It's kind of music to my ears to read you've never voted Tory.:joker:
Not everything the Cons do is wrong though.
I just feel they haven't the compromise or compassion that I would like to see at this time in policy making
Most of its been more of ugly type rhetoric.

bots 22-05-2024 10:05 PM

Sunak had a list of key election pledges which seem to have been forgotten about, and the only 1 of the 5 he has met is lowering inflation :laugh:

Looking at it, i think he has realised he doesn't have a hope of turning it around by the end of the year so he has basically thought f it, lets do it in July and then I can enjoy the summer :laugh:

Mystic Mock 22-05-2024 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11454708)
I actually think there's a lot of difference.

The Cons would never re-nationalise Railways as Labour plan to.

Labours ambitious Housing policy is nothing like the Cons.
Who've done next to nothing as to affordable housing rented or otherwise in 14 years.

The wasted cost of the detestable Rwanda plan will be halted by Labour with more concentration on the operators of those boats.

The NHS not now just on its knees after 14 years of Con government, but actually flat on its back.
Labour has plans to begin to help it recover.
It will need reform of course too.

A public owned green energy company wouldn't be even thought of from the Cons.
Which Labour will create.

Restoring back some workers rights which should never have been taken away.

Much more Id love to see from Labour but none of those things will come from the Cons and haven't in 14 YEARS.

If those things do come to pass then that will be fantastic, Joey.

For me, I just think that we need to take the gamble, we can't afford to have 4-5 more years of what has been an atrocious Government.

If Labour/Starmer are somehow even worse, then get rid of them at the next Election, but we need to at least try is my viewpoint, because we already know that the current Tory generation are terrible, where as we don't actually know what the current Labour Party would be like, and that to me is a huge selling point for Labour.

bots 22-05-2024 10:18 PM

There just comes a point where people want change, and it really doesn't matter how good or bad the current government are. It was true when Tony Blair was elected and it was true when Cameron got elected.

Personally, i think we should force rotate the government every 4 years so that no one party stays in power too long. Even 2 terms max would work

The same should really apply to mayors too

joeysteele 22-05-2024 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11454719)
There just comes a point where people want change, and it really doesn't matter how good or bad the current government are. It was true when Tony Blair was elected and it was true when Cameron got elected.

Personally, i think we should force rotate the government every 4 years so that no one party stays in power too long. Even 2 terms max would work

The same should really apply to mayors too

Except that would remove the will of the voters.

If voters wanted a government or coalition in power for years and years or even a decade plus.
You couldn't in a democracy take away the choice of the voters as to that.

Mayors however, yes possibly to that.

Zizu 22-05-2024 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11454719)
There just comes a point where people want change, and it really doesn't matter how good or bad the current government are. It was true when Tony Blair was elected and it was true when Cameron got elected.

Personally, i think we should force rotate the government every 4 years so that no one party stays in power too long.


Funny thing is .. history has shown over the last 6 decades that it doesn’t make a diddly squat of a difference WHO is in charge !!!!


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arista 22-05-2024 11:00 PM

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arista 22-05-2024 11:02 PM

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Put a Tie on Tubby Starmer

arista 22-05-2024 11:22 PM

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This show
and was Live, for a change.


James Cleverly MP, Home Secretary
replaced Hunt.

arista 22-05-2024 11:42 PM

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Some Previous bad moments

and

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Glenn. 22-05-2024 11:49 PM

I mean anyone that truly believes that the Tory’s have actually done any good is a moron tbh. Just **** up after **** up

arista 22-05-2024 11:53 PM

From 14th of June
many will be watching Football Matches.


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arista 22-05-2024 11:56 PM

Today in Parliament
last chance to get Legislation
through.

arista 23-05-2024 12:19 AM

Roll on the Live TV Debates
Both Sunak & Starmer want them.


Possible
SkyNewsHD TV and Free Online like YouTube

BBC TV and Free Online

ITVnews TV and Free Online like YouTube

arista 23-05-2024 12:35 AM

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