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Sunak might do a John Major and get on his soap box and win. :p
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Yes LT could be It was Big Steve Bray Protestor with Big Amp and Speaker |
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@The_TUC Forced to work in the rain unnecessarily? Join a union. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOMsbIeW...jpg&name=small https://x.com/The_TUC/status/1793327489709641843 |
Starmer had to Big UK Flags
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General Election 2024 - 4th July!
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Stephen Fry for prime minister !? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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The optics of carrying out that speech while getting drenched with the music being blasted over it couldn't have been much worse
It had been raining all afternoon so not exactly a surprise. He should have either arranged some cover or just done a very short punchy speech |
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i don't think i've ever been less interested in the outcome of an election.
My feeling is that there are some really bad things coming in the fairly immediate future (june onward) and Sunak is holding the election now so that labour gets the blame for it |
I think it showed poor judgement as usual in presenting such a long speech
I think it was arista who said he was giving a history lesson. Clearly from Starmer and Labour they were up and ready to go rapidly afterwards with far less timing as to messaging. I'm pleased to say and see for a change. I'm glad the election he has called is at least done by the first week of July. As I'm going to Rome later in July on holiday. So thanks to Sunak for the election in the first week So I've now got to ease work out the way and concentrate on helping leafleting and canvassing for Labour over the coming weeks. I'm expecting a horrible campaign. I've had hard-line Con voters screaming at me and the team I was canvassing with, that all of us in Labour should all be put in baths of acid. In previous elections. Charming. No doubt a lot of mudslinging too but all Parties are good at that. I'm also pleased the UK election will be over before the new election of the USA President. Oh well, here we go. What will be, will be. I know what I'll work hard for and know what I'm hoping for. I will cheer from the rooftops IF this Sunak led Con Party is well and truly booted out of government, AT LAST. |
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And you have an interesting theory, and it wouldn't shock me if you were right tbh, as the Tories do have a history of setting up other people up for their own incompetence these last 15 years. |
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We STILL have PARTY government in the UK. Not a President. I'll be voting for Labour and frankly don't care whether you'd approve or not. |
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Who threatens that over someone supporting a Political Party? Especially a party that has moderate views. I wouldn't agree with it, but if you were supporting Reform, UKIP, or some far left Party that might be running around, then I might understand it more because of the possibly extreme and vile views that can be held within far right and far left ideologies. But some people would want to physically harm you for supporting Labour? That shows that those people are really far gone imo. |
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It's actually fun most of the time. Even odd times we've been out leafleting then come across Con workers leafleting too in the same streets. Once all done we've gone for a coffee together. Most of us are reasonable and not getting the vile nonsense I mentioned earlier. Sadly though we do now have to be careful. All Parties but particularly Con and Labour. Because of worries of things getting more hostile and even possibly dangerous. We always work in teams now for safety. It's great however when you get someone who wants to talk with you and engage with you too. Doesn't matter who they're supporting either. Plus it gets you out in the fresh air and good exercise too. I head out with plenty mars bars because there's not much chance to eat really until night time when you stop for the day. |
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At least Rishi sticks up for women and not bullying
I'd hate to support bullying |
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The extremists do need to be sent to a Mental Asylum though. |
I actually think there's a lot of difference.
The Cons would never re-nationalise Railways as Labour plan to. Labours ambitious Housing policy is nothing like the Cons. Who've done next to nothing as to affordable housing rented or otherwise in 14 years. The wasted cost of the detestable Rwanda plan will be halted by Labour with more concentration on the operators of those boats. The NHS not now just on its knees after 14 years of Con government, but actually flat on its back. Labour has plans to begin to help it recover. It will need reform of course too. A public owned green energy company wouldn't be even thought of from the Cons. Which Labour will create. Restoring back some workers rights which should never have been taken away. Much more Id love to see from Labour but none of those things will come from the Cons and haven't in 14 YEARS. |
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Your vote is your vote Where you cast it is for you to decide who will deliver most or some of what you'd want or believe to be better than has been. I'm overjoyed that you intend to use your vote. For whoever. It's why I support PR to help people feel more that their votes aren't wasted whoever they vote for. :joker:It's kind of music to my ears to read you've never voted Tory.:joker: Not everything the Cons do is wrong though. I just feel they haven't the compromise or compassion that I would like to see at this time in policy making Most of its been more of ugly type rhetoric. |
Sunak had a list of key election pledges which seem to have been forgotten about, and the only 1 of the 5 he has met is lowering inflation :laugh:
Looking at it, i think he has realised he doesn't have a hope of turning it around by the end of the year so he has basically thought f it, lets do it in July and then I can enjoy the summer :laugh: |
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For me, I just think that we need to take the gamble, we can't afford to have 4-5 more years of what has been an atrocious Government. If Labour/Starmer are somehow even worse, then get rid of them at the next Election, but we need to at least try is my viewpoint, because we already know that the current Tory generation are terrible, where as we don't actually know what the current Labour Party would be like, and that to me is a huge selling point for Labour. |
There just comes a point where people want change, and it really doesn't matter how good or bad the current government are. It was true when Tony Blair was elected and it was true when Cameron got elected.
Personally, i think we should force rotate the government every 4 years so that no one party stays in power too long. Even 2 terms max would work The same should really apply to mayors too |
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If voters wanted a government or coalition in power for years and years or even a decade plus. You couldn't in a democracy take away the choice of the voters as to that. Mayors however, yes possibly to that. |
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Funny thing is .. history has shown over the last 6 decades that it doesn’t make a diddly squat of a difference WHO is in charge !!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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This show and was Live, for a change. James Cleverly MP, Home Secretary replaced Hunt. |
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I mean anyone that truly believes that the Tory’s have actually done any good is a moron tbh. Just **** up after **** up
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