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Watch the Netflix show they did last year, it will give you details about the case

The documentary though rather than the dramatisation, it's more accurate with real footage etc

Yeah was about to say,the drama one I only watched 3 episodes. It was ok but I couldn’t get into it

….Erik Menendez has just been denied parole…Lyle’s parole hearing is later today but I doubt the decision will be any different…it’ll be another three years before they can appeal again…

Aw that's terrible news

‘Barton said the primary reason for the decision was not the seriousness of the crime but Menendez’s behavior in prison.’


…but it doesn’t state what the behaviour was/is that was the main factor in the decision…

Interesting if that's the case it shouldn't automatically follow that Lyle's would be rejected.... I wonder what he did in prison?

…this is part of the BBC article…

Parole board commissioner Robert Barton, who listened to testimony for more than 10 hours with a panel before denying Erik's parole, said he believed Erik was not yet ready for release.
"I believe in redemption, or I wouldn't be doing this job," he told Erik at the end of the marathon hearing. "But based on the legal standards, we find that you continue to pose an unreasonable risk to public safety."
The board took issue, specifically, with his violations in prison and past criminal activity before killing his parents.
"Contrary to your supporters' beliefs, you have not been a model prisoner and frankly, we find that a little disturbing," Barton said, bluntly telling him he now had "two options" for his future.
"One is to have a pity party," Barton told Erik. "Or you can take to heart what we discussed."

…also…

They reviewed the schooling and positive programs he had been involved with in prison, along with transgressions he had while in lockup, including prison fights and being found multiple times with contraband. While behind bars, he'd got in trouble for having a cell phone, art supplies and tobacco - which he'd hidden inside a religious book.

Thanks Ammi. Talking about what he did before what he's in there for was a bit harsh i think though, he was a teenager at the time

…yeah, obviously we only know bits of what the media reports but it does feel to me that there was never any intention of granting him parole…so obviously reasons have to be recorded etc…

Yeah and look i don't know what he's been up to in prison but I feel there was an undertone to that, that I don't like. Talking about pity parties and despite what his supporters believe etc

…Lyle Menendez also denied bail…


‘parole commissioner Julie Garland commended him for his behavior in prison, including his lack of violence, his work on programs and his positive relationships with other inmates and staff. She also noted his strong support network and solid plans for a post-release life’

"You have been a model inmate in many ways who has demonstrated the potential for change," Garland told him at his first-ever parole hearing. "But despite all those outward positives, we see ... you still struggle with anti-social personality traits like deception, minimization and rule-breaking that lie beneath that positive surface."

Lyle Menendez's illegal possession of cellphones in prison was another point made by the commissioners.

Garland said "incarcerated people who break rules" are more likely to break rules in society.

"We do understand that you had very little hope of being released for years," Garland said, referring to his previous sentence of life without the possibility of parole.

Hhmmm

Just my thoughts
If you are being sexually abused the normal route for people is to report it, not stand on the driveway and shoot your mother and father

Of course but they've already served 30 years and there was extenuating circumstances.

Was the sexual abuse claims proven?

Pretty much as far as I'm aware, there were some photos found, a couple of his cousins testified saying Eric and Lyle told them about it when they were younger and also, other men have come forward with allegations against the dad as well (he was involved with promoting a boy band and it was members of this band)

I see
But it was basically an execution so you can see why it brings mixed feelings

If we look at it from the justice side they are murderers

Oh absolutely but they have served a lot of time already

Plus I doubt they are a case where there's a risk of re offending either

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 

Are you really suggesting that two people who are capable of executing two other others ( their own parents ) are not a risk to the public !??


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I'm suggesting that two people who killed their abusers are not the average type of killer and are unlikely to kill again yes.

To be fair, they were adults when they killed their parents, they did have other options available to them.

I don't for a second, understand the american legal system and they have had some very serious criminals that get executed and others that seem to get a pat on the head and told not to do it again.

Also, we need to remember that America is basically a banana republic now, your guilt or innocence is based on your ability to pay or what dirty details you have on Trump

I'm not saying they should have gotten away with no sentence at all. I just think 30 years is long enough considering the circumstances.

But they are surely CAPABLE of anything so why on Earth take risks with innocent members of the public


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I don't consider child rapists and child rapist coverers innocent members of the public :shrug:

What !?!?

I mean if they release them it puts genuinely innocent people at risk ..


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And i don't agree with you, they killed their abusers.

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 

So they are obviously capable of killing again !!!

I don’t even kill flies and I pick up worms on paths on rainy days then place them safely elsewhere


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They are in America so what ever happens it’s not going to affect you

I am obviously not bothered about myself just any other innocent people …


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…honestly Zizu, you would be the worst jury person when you don’t seem to need to know any details/accounts of a case to form such definite conclusions…

…anyway, this case of the brothers was always so complex that there were two trials originally, with the first ending in a hung jury…and then with the second trial, the alleged sexual and mental abuse/which had also had been cited by others was not allowed to be brought into their trial at all…so without that, then the verdict was pretty much a given to be what it was…if I recall as well with the judge in the first trial…?…it was even suggested that because gay men seemed to be drawn and attracted to Erik…?…that he in some way enjoyed the sexual abuse from his father…so acknowledging that sexual abuse…(…which wasn’t allowed to be cited in the second trial…)…but that it wasn’t perceived as damaging abuse…

…anyway, the decision has been made not to grant either of them parole and that will remain until they can appeal for it again…/…which will be at least three years…I’m sure that it’s probably what they thought it would be anyway and it’s what they’ve prepared for…interesting though that for Erik…?…the parole decision was said to not be because of the crime committed but because of behaviours in prison …whereas with Lyle, he was described by his parole board as a model prisoner and still denied parole, presumably based on the crime…for me it doesn’t seem as though there is any intention to ever release them…

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 

Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people



PS

A clue may be found in their nicknames..

The MONSTERS ..


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Someone do a poll to see what everyone thinks

Keep behind bars or release


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…and yet you’ve also suggested in other stories that sexual abusers/paedophiles be put to death and specifically shot…which is essentially the crux of the case/that the brothers shot their abusers …that’s cool though, you have all of the details you need of a complex case/which appears to be no details at all, to enable you to reach a conclusion…

Again, you're misinformed, Monsters isn't their nickname, it's the name of the Netflix dramatisation of the case and it's ambiguous as to who they're referring to as the "monsters" whether it's the parents or the sons or maybe a bit of both

…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

i was just reading in the news today that anyone that gets sentenced to a year won't serve time if the government get their way and that prisoners will be able to earn early release after completing a third of their sentence. Soon i would imagine they just wont bother sending anyone to jail. Thats the UK for you