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Zizu 21-10-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11539224)
It's not that deep Zizu, people just don't like her after the way she has been,she would have been vetted before going in,she wont leave, she just needs to stop telling other people what they should be doing and saying and stop thinking she is above everyone else.


Its kinda who she is .. a lot of it is out of her control .. sadly unless you’ve ‘lived it’ people will never understand

She shouldn’t be in there as I said

I would be shocked if her parents and girlfriend aren’t in talks with the producers to get her out of there asap


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Cherie 21-10-2024 12:30 PM

Zizu, I understand where you are coming from, you can post in her fan thread and nothing negative can be posted in there so maybe you can still participate but only in a positive way?

It is a discussion forum so like Love Island positive and negative posts are going to appear

Zizu 21-10-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11539227)
We get you idolise her Zizu,some of us don't it's that simple, I like Nathan but he is getting some negativity now,that's just the nature of the game, none of them will give a toss in a few weeks time.


I do like her .. a lot .. I’m a sucker for a beautiful face but I also think I understand her , her ways , how she understands things, how she reacts to things .. as I am on the same page 99.9% of the time- for obvious reasons


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Zizu 21-10-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11539249)
Zizu, I understand where you are coming from, you can post in her fan thread and nothing negative can be posted in there so maybe you can still participate but only in a positive way?

It is a discussion forum so like Love Island positive and negative posts are going to appear



Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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Zizu 21-10-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11539232)
In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.


Serious question

How much of that whole conversation did we get to hear ?
I’d guess it was far more than was shown ..

So everyone maybe basing their opinions unfairly-there may have been loads more unsuitable things discussed


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Beso 21-10-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539252)
Fans threads are for gushing compliments.. thats not really my style . I have just posted some nice photos of her

Sadly I have spent 90% of my energies DEFENDING something Ali has said or done or disagreeing with nasty , unjust comments aimed at her - in other threads


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What housemates do you not like zizu.?

Gusto Brunt 21-10-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539176)
Having a sense of humour is something rarely attributed to autistic people .. indeed.

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Some autistic people both get and make jokes of the more “traditional” variety. But some people with autism simply don’t find popular joke types or structures amusing. While they may get the point of a funny anecdote or something that is visually or physically funny, they may struggle with more contrived types of humour.


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I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.

vesavius 21-10-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539246)
The vast majority of your posts are like this ..all pretty much baseless

Just your weird take on things rehashed as facts


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Keep it to the HMs.

You are personalising this all way too much. Go outside for a bit and calm down.

Zizu 21-10-2024 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11539264)
Keep it to the HMs.


Apologies


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Beso 21-10-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11539263)
I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.

She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.

Gusto Brunt 21-10-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11539267)
She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.

:joker::joker: Says it all about her then. High and mighty she thinks she can supercede a professional doctor.:joker:

Zizu 21-10-2024 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11539257)
What housemates do you not like zizu.?


Not keen on Martha who’s shown us nothing of herself imho

I dislike the vulgar side of Marcello but he has some nice traits..


I don’t mind the rest tbh


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Zizu 21-10-2024 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11539263)
I didn't know she has autism. But all the same, she is still boring. Lots of autistic people in showbiz aren't dull like she is. So no excuse.


Every autistic person is totally unique but they all share many traits at the same time ..


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Zizu 21-10-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11539267)
She hasnt been diagnosed with Autism, by a professional. She has self diagnosed herself.


You keep saying that ..

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Zizu 21-10-2024 01:07 PM

Not only is Ali an obnoxious control freak she is wildly inconsistent
 
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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11539271)
:joker::joker: Says it all about her then. High and mighty she thinks she can supercede a professional doctor.:joker:

This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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Niamh. 21-10-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11539233)
Everyone knows I'm not a fan of All but Marcello called her for a chat, not the other way round. From that, she seemed for offended by him calling her out than the original conversation, when she called out the group. She just focused on Marcello due to a facial expressions he subsequently pulled.

Yes, my mistake, I hadn't watched the full show yet(I have now) just seen some clips from it

FromBB8 21-10-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539282)

I think everyone appreciates that but, at the same time, it should not give anyone carte blanche to be free of criticism for their behaviour in the house.

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 01:10 PM

I will just leave this here

really nasty..


bots 21-10-2024 01:17 PM

it's not nasty at all

Maru 21-10-2024 01:24 PM

I can't wait til she's voted out.

FromBB8 21-10-2024 01:26 PM

Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Niamh. 21-10-2024 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11539298)
Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she knows they're right probably

vesavius 21-10-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539283)
This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.

Zizu 21-10-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11539285)
I think everyone appreciates that but, at the same time, it should not give anyone carte blanche to be free of criticism for their behaviour in the house.


Not so much an excuse more a possible explanation


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Zizu 21-10-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11539304)
That text says nothing about self-diagnosis or not.


You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?


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jones89 21-10-2024 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11539244)
Is there a possibility the real Ali is locked up in a cupboard somewhere and this is one of her "clients"

You know whaaaa?.. we’re gonna have to look into this cause that didn’t even cross my mind :joker:

Beso 21-10-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539283)
This is one of the flaws with forums
You have been influenced by one of Ali’s fiercest critics ..


See above post


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To use your logic..

They havnt met her.
They are judging on a condensed clip heavily edited by bb.

vesavius 21-10-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11539318)
You’d rather take notice of one of Ali’s haters ?

Sometimes

Zizu 21-10-2024 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11539353)
Sometimes


Nuff said


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caprimint 21-10-2024 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11539232)
In general I agree with you but that particular discussion wasn't bad at all, at least Marcellos part in it anyway(for once), as others have said he wasn't the only one participating in it but he seemed to be the only one that Ali had the issue with afterwards.

Marcello seemed to be the one leading the conversation though and he was the one who made the particular comment about "ejaculating" which is what I think she was uncomfortable listening to

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11539234)
And a person fully has the right to not like that, but pretending that her job depended on it was cheap and manipulative. Shutting down conversations that you don't personally like is toxic and controlling. A normal person in a shared situation simply chooses to not be part of it for the couple of minutes it is happening.

Instead of sitting in judgement of the conversations of others, she might want to actually try and be interesting enough to have a conversation of her own with people she likes (if she actually likes anyone in there, which I doubt).

But, yeah, he didn't say anything wild... These conversations have happened literally every year. Emma's jokes have been way way more crude (but I still like her).

This wasn't about what he said though,not really. It was about it being a long five minutes since Ali had shut someone down and she loves doing that way too much.

We don't know too much about the specific details of her job so it's difficult for anyone else to judge that fairly. She wasn't telling him to never speak about it, she just said she was uncomfortable being forced to be there when that conversation was taking place and to talk about it with his friends or others who he knows wants to partake in it, I don't think that's entirely unreasonable?

She's always (and was always) chatting with Lily, Nathan, Daze, Dean, Izaaz and even Khaled lately too, but considering she's got the most threads about her on here then she must be pretty interesting for you to keep discussing :fan:

She comes across as though she doesn't hide/hold back her thoughts and feelings and always says exactly what she thinks. It's normal human behaviour rather than "wanting to shut people down"

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11539239)
So why doesn't she have that conversation with Lily ? as she is also gross and annoying,maybe she doesn't like men.

The worst Lily has done is pick her nose :laugh: It's not even comparable. Ali gets on well with Nathan, Dean & Izaaz so saying she has an issue with men is a stretch just because she's had disagreements with a couple of them

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 02:40 PM

I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.
https://i.ibb.co/qJtnpLY/abp.jpg

Niamh. 21-10-2024 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11539378)
I think given what has happened to Ali personally she should be more aware of how she comes acts herself to others - she is bullying Khaled. Not seen the highlights or what they show but the parts I have seen she should be pulled up for bullying. Khaled has handled himself amazingly. He has remained calm and compassionate to her feelings and is always willing to give her another try. He is someone who just wants her to like him but she doesn't.

Looks like she could be self employed to me looking at her on the below site. States sessions from £100? be not taking referrals at present due to being on bb etc.
https://i.ibb.co/qJtnpLY/abp.jpg

Thing is just because someone is a psychologist doesn't mean they're good people or actually suited to that profession either. They're just human beings like everyone else

Swan 21-10-2024 02:49 PM

She's a textbook modern day liberal.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vesavius (Post 11538880)
First, really bored of her constantly attempting to control the speech of others.

Secondly, I hated when she used her job as a shield and pretended to not be 'sensitive'.

She clearly, in her own words, admits to Marcello that she was offended by his conversation. It wasn't about her job, it WAS about her being offended. why even lie like that? More manipulation.

This is the 'blunt honesty' some love her for? Nah.

Marcello was not 'telling her off', he was attempting to express to her that she had handled the situation badly but, as ever, queen ****ing Ali is never wrong and always perfect. In her head at least.

"I don't think that this conversation is helpful because I don't think that you are going to agree with me"... there we have it, Ali in a nutshell. It's only every 'helpful' if you bend the knee to her.

:clap1: perfectly put

And just as I predicted, Marcello is getting the brunt of it . Despite the fact Rosie & Dean were also involved in the chitter chat. Notice how Dean & Rosie nod and go along with Ali all the time .

Like Marcello said,he wasn't even aiming the conversation at Ali ,but once again block of ice takes it upon herself to be offended and to take everything so personal. No idea why she keeps bringing up her profession...if she's that worried & uncomfortable about what her job/ work colleagues think ... maybe she's on the wrong TV show.

It's also not fair of her to put that guilt on other housemates, she cannot police other people's conversations. And Marcello was right...it was an ' adult conversation ' .

Ali is condescending, stuck ,rude & extremely, controlling
& patronising & miserable . Any time anyone tries to clear the air with her ,or to explain themselves ... it's like banging their head against a brick wall.

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman :bored: .

Gusto Brunt 21-10-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11539296)
I can't wait til she's voted out.

She's getting on my ***s, too. :D

GlitterUK 21-10-2024 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11539222)
That's probably why her and Lily are so close because she literally hero worships her and she can control her easily

Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FromBB8 (Post 11539298)
Why is it every time someone tries to stand up to Ali she either tries to close the conversation down and/or walk away?

Because she loves the sound of her own voice,she tells people they're not letting her speak ...whilst she also rudely cuts them off ,when they're trying to defend themselves. She's a self righteous sour face ,with a superiority complex.

GoldHeart 21-10-2024 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GlitterUK (Post 11539495)
Spot on, I think Lily also feeds back snippets to Ali.

Like her little puppet

Crimson Dynamo 21-10-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11539518)
Like her little puppet

pretty sure Ali fancies her too

vesavius 21-10-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11539418)

And my goodness didn't she love smashing Marcello's glass portrait, like she had achieved something big .. spiteful vindictive woman :bored: .

Did you get the impression that when she finally loses it she goes 100% ballistic?

It was a little eye opening.


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