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Cherie 16-07-2025 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11669526)
Heads must also roll

Yes

NHS Fife has spent nearly £220,500 defending itself in an employment tribunal case brought by Sandie Peggie, a nurse who complained about sharing a changing room with a transgender doctor.

Funnelling money into the NHS is like throwing it into a black hole, this money could have been spent in so many ways to improve services, but no ...and now I am guessing they will have to compensate Sandra so more good money after bad

Zizu 16-07-2025 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11669547)
Yes

NHS Fife has spent nearly £220,500 defending itself in an employment tribunal case brought by Sandie Peggie, a nurse who complained about sharing a changing room with a transgender doctor.

Funnelling money into the NHS is like throwing it into a black hole, this money could have been spent in so many ways to improve services, but no ...and now I am guessing they will have to compensate Sandra so more good money after bad


Such a dreadful waste of money

No wonder this country is in such a mess


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Crimson Dynamo 16-07-2025 04:38 PM

Read this..

It beggars belief

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co....-says-35567796

Cherie 16-07-2025 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11669631)

I heard about this lady today she advised Beth Upton that the womens changing room could be used with no consultation at all, this woman astonishingly works in HR, the consesus is she will be hung out to dry by her superiors to save their skin

Zizu 16-07-2025 05:27 PM

‘I’m biologically female’, insists trans NHS doctor
 
I can save them the time

It’s a bloke https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2d7221e516.jpg


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Crimson Dynamo 16-07-2025 07:26 PM

Isla Bumba "Lead Officer Equality and Human Rights" :rolleyes: Fife NHS

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GkLvHwlWIAA1j8N.jpg:medium

Details from the tribunal
  • she didn't know whether she was a man or a woman
  • also insisted she wouldn't know whether Dr Beth Upton was male or female either.
  • She also admitted that there was no engagement with any women before a
    decision was made to allow the biological male medic access to the female
    facilities

    she confirmed that she believed that if someone told her they were trans, she
    would believe them, even if they didn't dress differently or present as that
    gender.


  • And she claimed that trans woman (men) are less of a threat to females than men
  • She described biological guess as "far more complex" and went on: "I don't
    know anything about Beth's body - I don't know what my own body is made
    of biologically. No one knows what their chromosomes are or the hormonal
    composition."
  • She "hazarded a guess" that she was female and added: "I don’t know my
    [chromosomes. No one knows what they are until they are tested."
  • On identifying a trans person, she said that there wasn't a way to specifically
    be trans, but that if someone told her they were trans she would believe
    them.
  • " She added that it would be "incredibly hard for anyone" to tell the
    difference between a genuine trans woman and a man pretending to be a
    trans woman.
  • She claimed that isolating Dr Upton and asking him to change in his own
    changing room would not "uphold his dignity" and rejected claims that
    instead women were denied their dignity by being forced to change with a
    biological man.
  • Ms Bumba concluded by saying that does not think that women's safety,
    privacy and dignity were sacrificed in this case and that no women
    complained. She was asked by judge Sandy Kemp whether she had seen this
    [ changing room in question, and she has not, to which he replied: "'So you
    [don't know what we are talking about."


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astounding:shocked:

Beso 16-07-2025 07:58 PM

She added that it would be "incredibly hard for anyone" to tell the
difference between a genuine trans woman and a man pretending to be a
trans woman



As if her name wasnt enough.

Zizu 16-07-2025 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beso (Post 11669696)
She added that it would be "incredibly hard for anyone" to tell the
difference between a genuine trans woman and a man pretending to be a
trans woman



As if her name wasnt enough.


Took me about 2 seconds


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Glenn. 16-07-2025 08:54 PM

Transphobia on point tonight guys! Well done

Beso 16-07-2025 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11669712)
Transphobia on point tonight guys! Well done

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/19crRNpMkM/

Crimson Dynamo 16-07-2025 09:10 PM

Works in a hospital and does not know if she is a man or a woman

Works in HR

It's mind boggling

Cherie 16-07-2025 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11669712)
Transphobia on point tonight guys! Well done

oh give over, the woman is a clown show

Cherie 16-07-2025 09:32 PM

Anyway poor Isla try hard is soon to be toast....see ya later

Crimson Dynamo 16-07-2025 09:44 PM

Isla is not a very lucky name for the woke mind virus leftists in Scotland

This is strike 2

Who will be next one wonders...?

Crimson Dynamo 16-07-2025 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11669716)
Works in a hospital and does not know if she is a man or a woman

Works in HR

It's mind boggling

JK Rowling has had her say about Bumba:

"Gender identity ideology is an unfalsifiable, quasi-religious belief
system that demands absurdities of its adherents. Thus we see
perfectly intelligent people pretending they’re not sure which sex they
are, in the belief that this makes them virtuous."

Mystic Mock 16-07-2025 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11669631)

That Bumba woman sounds bonkers.:joker:

Mystic Mock 16-07-2025 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 11669712)
Transphobia on point tonight guys! Well done

Tbf, Bumba's claim to not know what Biological Sex she is, is bonkers.

She undermined her points by saying that imo.

Maru 17-07-2025 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11669752)
That Bumba woman sounds bonkers.:joker:

Oh. We have one of those on the US Supreme Court.

Quote:

She described biological guess as "far more complex"

Mystic Mock 17-07-2025 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maru (Post 11669783)
Oh. We have one of those on the US Supreme Court.




Really?!:shocked:

I'm going to check the video out.

Mystic Mock 17-07-2025 01:14 AM

How hesitant she is to just answer the question.:joker:
@Maru

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2025 01:38 PM

The NHS Fife female consultants who backed Dr Beth Upton don't have to share
a changing room with the trans medic, it has been revealed. Instead, they get
their own facilities as senior members of staff so wouldn't be using the same
single-sex spaces as a biological man.

Dr Elspeth Pitt, A&E consultant, made the revelation as she gave evidence to
the Sandie Peggie employment tribunal on Friday morning.


:rolleyes:

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2025 01:57 PM

BBC activists at it again

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"A nurse who complained about sharing a changing room with a transgender doctor has
been cleared of gross misconduct following disciplinary proceedings by NHS Fife."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2mp5jley8o

She didn't object to sharing a changing room with Upton because he was transgender;
she objected to sharing a changing room with him because he's MALE.

Livia 18-07-2025 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11670612)
The NHS Fife female consultants who backed Dr Beth Upton don't have to share
a changing room with the trans medic, it has been revealed. Instead, they get
their own facilities as senior members of staff so wouldn't be using the same
single-sex spaces as a biological man.

Dr Elspeth Pitt, A&E consultant, made the revelation as she gave evidence to
the Sandie Peggie employment tribunal on Friday morning.


:rolleyes:

So I guess it's fair to ask, what was the transgender doctor getting out of insisting on sharing a single sex space with women when there was no need.

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2025 05:43 PM

Scottish Express @scotExpress
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Breaking: Sandie Peggie was told to change in a TOILET to avoid changing with trans doctor

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:shocked:

Crimson Dynamo 19-07-2025 07:09 AM

https://wpcluster.dctdigital.com/wp-...29-620x372.jpg

EXCLUSIVE: SNP health chief backs NHS Fife after Sandie Peggie cleared of misconduct

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J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling
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This is Nicola Sturgeon's legacy: a government that publicly backs the
hapless, unprofessional, ideologically captured health board that's
persecuting a nurse for asserting her legal right to a single-sex changing
room.

Cherie 19-07-2025 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11670675)
Scottish Express @scotExpress
·

Breaking: Sandie Peggie was told to change in a TOILET to avoid changing with trans doctor

------------

:shocked:

Its not surprising to me

Crimson Dynamo 20-07-2025 09:21 AM

The "trans" doctor at the centre of the workplace row that led to disciplinary action
against nurse Sandie Peggie had "previous difficulties" with yet another
colleague and kept a log of “difficult interactions.” Who on earth logs details of
their colleagues?

Cherie 20-07-2025 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11671053)
The "trans" doctor at the centre of the workplace row that led to disciplinary action
against nurse Sandie Peggie had "previous difficulties" with yet another
colleague and kept a log of “difficult interactions.” Who on earth logs details of
their colleagues?

People with a victim complex

Crimson Dynamo 21-07-2025 11:38 AM

Dr Kate Searle, Deputy Clinical Lead, NHS FIFE

This, is what one lone female Nurse was up against..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwJQFFaX...jpg&name=small

Cherie 21-07-2025 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11671390)
Dr Kate Searle, Deputy Clinical Lead, NHS FIFE

This, is what one lone female Nurse was up against..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwJQFFaX...jpg&name=small

And no one is surprised!

Cherie 21-07-2025 09:05 PM

A nurse who complained about a transgender doctor using a hospital’s female changing room was accused of racism by senior NHS staff, an employment tribunal has heard.

Charlotte Myles, a service manager at NHS Fife, said she had reviewed a decision to suspend Sandie Peggie over the row with Dr Beth Upton, who was born male but identifies as female.

Ms Myles told a tribunal in Dundee that senior figures at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy “expressed unhappiness” at her decision to allow Ms Peggie to return to work.

She said they claimed that the nurse was homophobic, had been “racist towards a doctor” and that she supported Donald Trump’s views on gender.

She said Dr Kate Searle, who was Dr Upton’s line manager, alleged there were “patient safety issues” with allowing Ms Peggie to resume her nursing job.

It was claimed that Ms Peggie had walked away from patients when Dr Upton arrived to treat them, including one who required resuscitation.

But none of the allegations were reported at the time they were said to have occurred or were supported by documentation, she said.

Ms Myles said they instead came from “second, third-hand information” and the doctor who was the alleged subject of the racist comment did not recall it having been made.



Sounds a bit like TiBB :laugh:

Mystic Mock 21-07-2025 10:26 PM

It does admittedly sound like character assassination coming from NHS Fife.

If they can't discredit her points, then there's probably a reason for that.

I'm just saying.

Crimson Dynamo 23-07-2025 07:31 AM

J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling
·

Just another day of lunacy in the Scottish courts. Dr Kate Searle, a consultant
in emergency medicine, says she knows she's female because it says so on her
birth certificate, but she personally isn't an expert on recognising a baby's sex.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwgPIyyX...jpg&name=small

'I don't think you can prove it' is one hell of a way to deny withholding
information from a tribunal.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwgQiPvX...jpg&name=small

However, Dr Searle's a doctor, which makes her automatically trustworthy,
the same way her male colleague, Dr Upton, became automatically
trustworthy in the female changing rooms the moment he said he was a
woman.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwgRssHX...jpg&name=small

Crimson Dynamo 24-07-2025 05:30 PM

A director of NHS Fife, and a Labour councillor who was Fife Council's spokesperson for health and social care, was yesterday convicted of
sexual offences against a girl (at the same time that the Sandie Peggie / NHS
Fife tribunal was taking place)

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/ar...25-08-2023.jpg

David Graham, who was at senior politician on Fife Council, has been described
by police as a "manipulative individual who groomed and sexually abused his
teenage victim."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...uilty-35606492

Cherie 24-07-2025 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11672361)
A director of NHS Fife, and a Labour councillor who was Fife Council's spokesperson for health and social care, was yesterday convicted of
sexual offences against a girl (at the same time that the Sandie Peggie / NHS
Fife tribunal was taking place)

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/ar...25-08-2023.jpg

David Graham, who was at senior politician on Fife Council, has been described
by police as a "manipulative individual who groomed and sexually abused his
teenage victim."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...uilty-35606492

Grim

Mystic Mock 24-07-2025 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo (Post 11672361)
A director of NHS Fife, and a Labour councillor who was Fife Council's spokesperson for health and social care, was yesterday convicted of
sexual offences against a girl (at the same time that the Sandie Peggie / NHS
Fife tribunal was taking place)

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/ar...25-08-2023.jpg

David Graham, who was at senior politician on Fife Council, has been described
by police as a "manipulative individual who groomed and sexually abused his
teenage victim."

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/s...uilty-35606492

He even has a face that screams sex offender.

Crimson Dynamo 24-07-2025 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11672412)
He even has a face that screams sex offender.

Literally my first thought Mock


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