Can hardly say Christina aint a little trashy (ok, not as much as Britney but still)

Also, people saying we don't know her so we can't say she's a bad mother-well a court had all the information presented to them and they decided Kevin federline was a better parent, so I think that kind of proves, she's not a good mother.

Some people get too worked up over these things. I think she is a great mother though, people who say she isn't, I don't understand how they can really say that because they only know of her parenting skills through the media etc behind closed doors she is a great mother.

I agreed with your first point that we can't comment on her parenting, but then you did - how do you know what happens behind closed doors?

What am i doing now? :rolleyes:

Discussing!

Yeah, sorry I kinda' contradicted myself but honestly I do think she is a good mother.

But a court- that DID have the information- decided Kevin federline was a better parent! There's also the hit and run charge, driving without a licence and the fact she was/ is a druggy to consider. I don't know how anyone could call her a good mother to be honest.

Yeah, but that was after she wouldn't hand over the kids to him and ended up in hospital

The court didn't decide she was a bad mother, or that Kevin was a better father - that's not what a custody case is about. It takes into consideration extenuating circumstances, and at the time she was being hounded by paps, moreso than him - she also had a lot of issued with drugs etc. That doesn't take into question her parenting skills.

You beat me to it.

Sorry, that's the biggest contradiction I've seen on here in a while. Though I do also agree with your first point.

Don't you think it's a bit patronising and ageist to refer to the younger members as "young children" and suggest their opinions are not as valid as the older members?

They will have considered everything when they came to that decision. They don't remove a mothers access to her kids lightly! And they know more information than all of us here, so I'd tend to trust them over people on the forum that just think she's a good mother.

I didn't mention older members? I wasn't comparing the validity of their opinion, to members older. So it's not ageist.

Plus, their age and validity of opinion were independent statements.

You did imply that their opinions are not valid.

Not because of their age, like I said that was a clear independent statement.

So if not their age, then why did you imply their opinions are not valid?

Aren't all members' opinons valid?

Because when arguing my own opinion, I obviously believe that to be the true one. Henceforth, any differing opinion is not valid to my own. Obviously.

100% behind you there

That's a pretty lame piece of backtracking you just did.

We are all entitled to our opinion, but if it differs from yours you are entitled to say yours is the right one and ours is the wrong one?

Does your moderator status give you this right?

By the way i don't 'think' she's a good mother

I couldn't care less (just making a point)

I posted that as a member, which I am.

But you're against allowing for people to have their opinion on whether or not she's a bad mother.Where's the discussion in that?

I find your manner to be quite arrogant in that case.

People saying she’s a good mother: How could you possibly know more than the court that decided she wasn’t?!

She was a druggy- she drove without a licence and committed a hit and run! She is constantly pictured, drunkenly falling out of cabs with no underwear on and half the time, she looks high!

Even knowing just that- how can you say she’s a good mother?! Would you let her look after your kids?!

I worry about some of you, seriously!!

Lets be fair, I don't really care if you do or not.

I believe MY opinion to be the correct one, otherwise it wouldn't be my opinion, would it? :wink: If that makes me arrogant, then at least I'm not spineless.

I believe my opinion to be the correct one also, but I have respect for others opinions and would never dismiss someone else's opinion as invalid.

That's where you and I differ.

It's invalid if it's not valid to my own opinion.

That clearly shows a lack of respect for others' opinion in my view.

So be it.